RPN to BScN Bridging in Ontario: My Experience

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  1. Did tis encourage you to take the program?

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      ABSOLUTELY NOT, You got to be crazy to do this! (which nursebetty1975 is!)

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I wanted to share my experience on attending Centennial/Ryerson on a part-time basis. I had to take the "RPN to BScN Hybrid program" because it is delivered in my area at a RAC (regional access centre) on a part-time basis only. If you live in the TO area than you can take this program on a full-time basis & complete in 3 yrs. There are 3 college together with Centennial (Mohawk & George Brown) that are in partnership with Ryerson for this program.

To apply you will have had a current CNO license, finished a diploma RPN program & must have a 3.0 Cumulative GPA in the PN program with no failed or repeated courses. For 2 years I took courses at the RAC (classes were held in a hospital in their education/board room) one evening a week, 2 (sometimes 3) courses per semester. No breaks in between, we went from one semester, right into another the entire year. The 2 years consisted of 2 Theory one semester than 2 Clinical courses the next, BUT not all courses had clinical component though. You have to complete this "certificate" program at Centennial or what ever other partner college is offering the Bridging, and earn a RPN to BScN bridging certificate. This certificate than allows to enter into Ryerson University as an Advanced placement student .This is similar to the Diploma RN's in Ontario, they too enter University as Advanced placement students to earn their BScN

Remember Diploma RN's got grandfathered in after they made BScN mandatory for the RN level & Certificate RPN's were grandfathered in after they made Diploma a requirement for the RPN....Many RN's have returned to school to get their degrees and RPN's have gone back to either get their diploma or take courses to be able to practice at the level of the new RPN (i.e., IV Certification, update pharmacology, update Pathophysiology & Theory courses such as Health Assessment & Ethics)

But to get into Ryerson you have to also have maintained a 3.0 GPA with no fails or repeats, if you fail any course from Centennial during the first two years or GPA drops below 3.0, you will not be allowed into their program :blackeye: You may still graduate from Centennial but you end up with a, pretty much useless, certificate that cant be used at any other Bridging University in Ontario because all the requirements are the same. Although, we did find out since that Athabasca will take this certificate and allow you to apply to their BScN online program, but I find it to be super expense (you have to travel to Alberta at some point for clinical & pay the fee to apply for LPN license in Alberta that has to be maintained the entire time you are in the program) but it is an option for those who didn't qualify.

Once you apply at Ryerson, the program is an additional year (fulltime) or 1 1/2 years part-time. There are many Universities, like McMaster with the same set up as Ryerson, and its just a choice of school, but makes no difference in the time spent in the program.

Unfortunately for me, I live in southwest Ontario, so part-time is my only option. ..... Cant imagine driving 8 hrs round trip, once a week for a 4 hr class. :no: The courses are also delivered partially "online" which basically means it gives the course content with different information, PPP, references, videos & notes apart from your textbook to help understand the content. I found Nursing Research to be the absolute hardest class these past 2 yrs, thought it was going to be the death of me in this program, but I survived ... BARLEY!!:mask:

I just completed my very last clinical placements (Community Health Practice, Mental Health Placements) than Im done forever with Centennial. My advice as far as choice ...DONT PICK CENTENNIAL, unless you can attend the campus ... The RAC idea is a good one, but still new and the coordinators are a disorganized mess (we were on our own!) No care or attention like the students at the campus in TO. ... Thank goodness for good teachers though, We had the Best profs ever, they were all seasoned nurses with degrees at a Bachelor & Masters level, Nurse Practitioner's & even CNO Staff member, all worked in our area and formed part of our teaching team... had tons of knowledge and experience and helped out SOOOO much, but even they often commented what a disorganized mess this program was. Each course had its Objectives, so as a class we teamed up to make sure we met those objectives by seeking out help from the instructors and forming study groups. See, we wanted to LEARN, because we know its not just about getting the degree, we still have to take a little something called a CRNE! So we must know our stuff! I already applied to Ryerson for September & I don't anticipate any issues, they reserve so many spots for these particular students,and Ive never heard of anyone who qualifies to not get in. I know its a lot of info but I hope it helps. They do not send a letter of acceptance until Centennial provides the final transcripts of the program, which are not yet available (Some people are still finishing their Community Health Practice, they have till Aug 8/13, I just already finished my hours & turned in my papers ...I wanted more of a summer than 15 days)

As I mentioned in other post Im no spring chicken :chicken: (37) mother of 3, (1 daughter started college, 1 in middle school and 1 tiny surprise baby boy in day care!) So kids, a home to run, a job and a husband that also works full time & sometimes Overtime hrs, it is a tremendously difficult thing to take on. A sacrifice of valuable time & money ..A Sacrifice everyone in my family has had to make because of me. But they have stuck it through and because they have I CAN NOT FAIL THEM NOW or myself for that matter. We have come to far for mom to throw in the towel.

I hope this helps some of you, and at least gives you an idea of what my educational journey has been like. Now if ONLY, there had been more full-time jobs in Southwestern Ontario for RPN's (other than LTC & Home Health ...which I didn't mind home health, but they're still part-time only) more respect & utilization to our full scope, continuing education opportunities to specialize (And NO!, we do not all want to do feet!:no:) and low wages ...than I would have been VERY content with being an RPN. But because of all this I decided to bridge once that opportunity presented itself in our area. I hope for Southwest Ontario that the University and College also develop a program like the ones in the GTA, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

XOXO to all &

Stay Calm and Nurse On!

Specializes in Public Health.
Hey can you keep us updated on how many people are new when you start in September, as well as if any of the people you meet who are bridging got in with uni marks :) Thanks!

What do you mean how many are new?? :)

What do you mean how many are new?? :)

Oh, I mean like how many people you find that got in that are bridging.

Specializes in Hospital nursing.

When I started, I believe we were a class of about 40-50.

When I started, I believe we were a class of about 40-50.

Was this Conestoga/Mcmaster? I was under the impression that you merge with the BSCN students who started in first year.

Specializes in Public Health.
Was this Conestoga/Mcmaster? I was under the impression that you merge with the BSCN students who started in first year.

The CoMac program takes 60 students. It is the exact same program as the MoMac one just at a different campus.

I have not started yet but from what I understand, the first year is a transition year and then in the second year of the bridging program you merge into 3rd year of the actual BScN program.

Specializes in Hospital nursing.

At MoMac the first year is just you and other bridging students. It's a lot of "this is how you research! Let's all go to the library, and learn how to look for articles!" as well as A&P and patho on a deeper level than you probably had in your PN program. They introduce you to PBL and get you used to that (it takes getting used to for sure) as well as EIDM.

Then the following year you get merged with the basic program students. This is good and bad. Good, because you make new friends. Bad, because you inevitably will hear stupid comments from some ignorant students, who think that because they are in the third year of their 4 year program that they know as much as you, an RPN, since "we've both done 2 years of nursing school now". Overall the basic students are great, though, and it's nice to branch out and meet more people. :)

At MoMac the first year is just you and other bridging students. It's a lot of "this is how you research! Let's all go to the library, and learn how to look for articles!" as well as A&P and patho on a deeper level than you probably had in your PN program. They introduce you to PBL and get you used to that (it takes getting used to for sure) as well as EIDM.

Then the following year you get merged with the basic program students. This is good and bad. Good, because you make new friends. Bad, because you inevitably will hear stupid comments from some ignorant students, who think that because they are in the third year of their 4 year program that they know as much as you, an RPN, since "we've both done 2 years of nursing school now". Overall the basic students are great, though, and it's nice to branch out and meet more people. :)

Great, as if being a male nurse wasn't bad enough, heh lol.

Should I bother moving down to Kitchener for the transition year? I'm assuming all the clinical placements would be near the campus location, and since I live in Mississauga... Commuting would be a pain. I am going to hate having to be told this is how you research articles once again, same with AP format. Lastly what is PBL and EIDM?

Thank you so much for your insight into the program, its amazing to find someone who has been there and done it.

AGH I just realized you were talking about MoMac, not Conestoga/Mac... :(

Specializes in Hospital nursing.
AGH I just realized you were talking about MoMac, not Conestoga/Mac... :(

The program itself is more or less the same (and some teachers teach at both campuses) but there are a few little differences.

Clinical will be near Conestoga, but will not be until next year. I had some friends who would just stay with a friend the night before clinical, or rent a hotel room rather than moving. For your final year, you can probably do your 2 pregrads closer to home. They usually ask where you live.

PBL = Problem Based Learning/Person Based Learning. It is something Mac is built on. In PBL class (aka "Transitioning from RPN to BScN" or something like that) you will talk about scenarios such as assisted suicide. Then you will make a concept map as a class, brainstorming what you want to know and what you think is important related to that topic. You will then divy up what you came up with, and everyone will research their part, coming back the following week to discuss the findings.

EIDM = Evidence Informed Decision Making. Basically this is looking at sources, figuring out if they are "good" or "bad" quality, what time of study/research was done, where to find the good stuff, and how to use it in your practice. If you want to be ahead of the game, read up on it a bit. Look up the 6 S pyramid in particular. ;)

For A&P and patho, the teacher is tough, but fair. No hand holding, so take your own notes. She lets you record lectures, and I suggest you do so, as she can move rather quickly when talking, and the powerpoints she posts online do not contain all she goes over. Stay on top of readings for those classes.

Good luck! :)

Specializes in Public Health.

Good to know, thanks. I'm really nervous and hoping the time flies like it did in the PN program!

Specializes in Hospital nursing.
Good to know, thanks. I'm really nervous and hoping the time flies like it did in the PN program!

It did for me! Finished and looked around and kind of went "wait, what? 3 years have passed by?"

Specializes in NICU.

That's good! Because I'm dreading the thought of 3 more years of school!

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