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I am sure that many of you do not want to hear this. But it is the actual truth. There still is no special schedule for nurses, and the Schedule A is not included in the Visa Bulletin.
That the dates are current for the month of July does not state that it is over. There is a huge number of applicants waiting for the green card, in addition to nurses, and they have been waiting as well. Remember that most that came to the US under the H1-B visa, are also included with the EB-3 caseload. And many of their attorneys are much faster at getting things done. Example: When the window opened for petitions to be submitted in April for the October 2007 H1-B visas, there were more than a 150,000 submitted in less than one day. And they were gone.
Not trying to burst any bubble, but trying to be honest on this. There are only so many visas available per year, never unlimited number. And this Bulletin does not go into effect until July 1, 2007. And those dates are only for that month and if you notice there is also mention that if the visas get used up that are there, then the dates will not remain in effect all month.
For those of you that got stopped in the processing just before your interview, this will be very beneficial for you. If your DS-230 has been approved and accepted, then this can be beneficial to you. For those that are just starting the process, remember you at the mercy of your agency and attorney and how fast that they will do things. We have seen multiple posts over the years of mistakes made with petitions that delayed things for quite a period of time. There is also a considerable raise in immigration fees going into affect at the end of July that will delay things for some people as the agencies are going to be holding back on paying of fees.
Those that have been paying their own way will find that they may get thru faster.
So please, do not make final plans to leave for the US until you actually have an interview date given to you. We saw what happened last fall to quite a few of you here.
Until there is another Schedule in place for nurses, the retrogression will not be over. Just an open window in the scheme of things, but definitely not over. Look at what happened even last month when the dates were moved up for the PD, you did not see a significant movement of anything. When money is needed to be paid by the agencies, everything drops to a crawl.
Absolutely right again Suzanne, nurses are no longer being considered as that important. Those undergoing CP are of the lowest priority and will get only a trickle of the visas, if ever any are ever released for them. THOSE ALREADY IN THE USA AND DOING PRODUCTIVE WORK are of the highest priority. The US is doing its best to obliterate the nursing shortage, until there will be no more demand for immigrant nurses. Those undergoing CP and tied up in the ping-pong paperwork had better think again and throw away all their premature excitement. Nurses are not that a hot commodity anymore, it's just a lot of hype.
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Let me let you in on a little secret: American students are not rushing to college to become scientists and engineers and school teachers. Our country has not opened a single new medical school in a generation and dozens of nursing schools across the U.S. have closed their doors. The RN shortage is supposed to reach 1,000,000 by 2020!
Yet the U.S.A. remains Number One in science, engineering, high-tech and health care technology. Why? One reason is that we have imported the best and the brightest minds from abroad.
"nurses are not that a hot commodity anymore, it's just a lot of hype"-rkmmaybe but most likely not, according to u.s dept of labor.
"job opportunities for rns in all specialties are expected to be excellent. employment of registered nurses is expected to grow much faster than average for all occupations through 2014, and, because the occupation is very large, many new jobs will result. in fact, registered nurses are projected to create the second largest number of new jobs among all occupations. thousands of job openings also will result from the need to replace experienced nurses who leave the occupation, especially as the median age of the registered nurse population continues to rise.
much faster-than-average growth will be driven by technological advances in patient care, which permit a greater number of medical problems to be treated, and by an increasing emphasis on preventive care. in addition, the number of older people, who are much more likely than younger people to need nursing care, is projected to grow rapidly....http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos083.htm
this is from the dept of labor and is talking about us nurses, not foreign nurses being brought into the us. you have to have it in context with everything else. and no where does it state that the reason that someone should go to nursing school in their country for an instant green card to work in the us. it just is not happening anymore.
it is stating that nursing is an excellent field for someone to go into, and it is talking of americans.
And to clear up any misconceptions:
Any job that is offered to a foreign nurse via the green card, or immigrant visa, must have proof that it was first posted for American RNs first. That is why there is a delay in getting the I-140 submitted in the first place of about one months time; to get the required documents that need to be submitted with the petition. This is why it can not be done immediately.
And to clear up any misconceptions:Any job that is offered to a foreign nurse via the green card, or immigrant visa, must have proof that it was first posted for American RNs first. That is why there is a delay in getting the I-140 submitted in the first place of about one months time; to get the required documents that need to be submitted with the petition. This is why it can not be done immediately.
Not only that... but the employer has an incredible cost associated with the I-140 and they want to be assured that they want to keep you as an employee as well since the process is so long. If they could get an American they would not need to bother with this long process. I don't blame the employer for not wanting to proceed immediately. When I originally asked they indicated they like to have you as an employee for a year to make sure it is a good fit but in my case they did agree to start the process sooner. It is up to the discretion of the manager. But due to retrogresson I won't likely be able to start the process until I have been there a year anyway since it looks like we will be waiting until October now at the earliest.
I do think though that the OPT process (as opposed to an immigrant petition from overseas) is actually good for the employer because it allows just enough time to see if the employer and the employee even want to proceed and since you are already in the US and authorized to work right away for a year and have time to acquire the Visascreen there is no need for a lot of extra costs up front.
Please go back to the original topic here. The issue is that the retrogression is not over. And the fact that the US will never have unlimited visas for nurses. Never have and never will.
If US has unlimited visas for nurses, like one bill proposed unlimited visa for nurses for 7 years, I'm sure all private nursing schools in US will be packed with foreigners.
As expected and predicted by Suzanne, the Retrogression is now back in full force. So much for all the excitement and premature celebrations. All can go back to waiting and hoping now. And forget about the unlimited visas for nurses, no way is that forthcoming.
"I told you so, we're not gonna make it" -Muttley, Wacky Races :lol2:
Retrogression starts again before it ended......it isn't really over....hang-on and wait for October bulletin...that is if we can still trust the DOS Visa Bulletin....
It was never over for nurses in the first place. That is a misconception that many of you have had. The retrogression is still in place for nurses and has been since last October.
If US has unlimited visas for nurses, like one bill proposed unlimited visa for nurses for 7 years, I'm sure all private nursing schools in US will be packed with foreigners.
Do not see unlimited visas for nurses passing. With the unions as strong as they are, there is no way that they will accept that. And the unions are stronger than the hospitals. There have been so many proposals and not one has passed, mainly because of this point.
Even if a nurse trains in the US, it does not give them any faster route to getting a visa to remain in the US. And the US could always enforce their rule that once you get your training, you need to leave. That is why the OPT can into play initially. For the student to get a year of experience in their field and then return home.
And after the bombings over the past few days, and being done by those in the medical field, and from several different countries; you can be sure that people are going to be more scrutinized than ever. And it is not going to work in the favor of unlimited visas, that is for sure.
When my lawyers read abt the retro being lifted this July, they made me send again my DS230 w/c I alrdy sent last year. Had my Fee bill completed too way back June-July last year. They made it clear that I have to complete everything this June so I cld be included in the July processing. Do you mean to say with all these preparations I made I still wont get interviewed? I'm reading an article now at hammonlawfirm site that Retro is indeed back and as of July 2 they will be sending applications back and would not process anymore. Can you tell if this is in the NVC stage or USCIS stage that they wont process?
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"nurses are not that a hot commodity anymore, it's just a lot of hype"-rkm
maybe but most likely not, according to u.s dept of labor.
"job opportunities for rns in all specialties are expected to be excellent. employment of registered nurses is expected to grow much faster than average for all occupations through 2014, and, because the occupation is very large, many new jobs will result. in fact, registered nurses are projected to create the second largest number of new jobs among all occupations. thousands of job openings also will result from the need to replace experienced nurses who leave the occupation, especially as the median age of the registered nurse population continues to rise.
much faster-than-average growth will be driven by technological advances in patient care, which permit a greater number of medical problems to be treated, and by an increasing emphasis on preventive care. in addition, the number of older people, who are much more likely than younger people to need nursing care, is projected to grow rapidly....http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos083.htm