Requested reposting of information concerning US Army Graduate Program in Anest Nsg

mwbeah · Dec 4, 2004

Any questions please contact me.

j.graham · Dec 22, 2004

Any questions please contact me.

BTW,

Merry Christmas.

matts_pats2 · Dec 22, 2004

Think before you jump, somethings sound better than they are.

If you are interested in the Army program, now is the time, the can't fill the school.

matt

mwbeah · Dec 23, 2004

Things are great, I started out as PVT Mike and now CPT Mike with MSN and the Army is sending me for my Doctorate in Physiology. Sounds pretty good to me. The moonlighting ain't bad either. Hmmmmm, free school with great training, ranked 2nd in the nation so it must have a good reputation, will have to support the troops and deploy.......the trade off seems worth it. If you had a bad experience in the military or just were looking not to deploy, don't be critical of the program you know nothing of or were not able to get into. That just irritates people Matt. By the way, we can't fill the slots because of our selection process, if you don't meet the criteria for entry then you don't get an interview. And, if you do get an interview after meeting the criteria, then you have to display the aptitude for the program. I can tell you as a person who writes those recommendations that the recommendation will make or break you.

I think I remember hearing about you, weren't you at Campbell?

Mike

matts_pats2 · Dec 23, 2004

Hey, I'm not knocking the Army program, I'm just saying it isn't perfect. I know quite alot about the program. I have applied both of the last two years, and got accepted both times. yeah thats right. Turned it down, requested REFRAD, because I also got accepted to a civilian program... I have several good friends who have graduated from the program and are in the program. It's a great program no doubt. It has its draw backs.

I, like you you came in as PVT matt, then CPT. I had enough and got out. I wanted and needed more time with my family, not to mention the fact that I want to be paid for taking the responsiblity that comes with anesthesia. Tell him about the bonus situation...or didn't you get that memo from the ANC chief, or maybe the attrition rate in the program.

Don't jump on someone for offering their opinion. Instead just offer your own and, then let him make an educated decision.

It's the nuber two program in the country, according to US News and World Report. I have no doubt, when you complete that program you are the Best CRNA new grad that there is, and when you get out you will be greatly compensated in your next job.

matts_pats2 · Dec 23, 2004

There is no "interview" you just apply. further, 100% pick-up rate.

matt

deepz · Dec 23, 2004

Think before you jump, somethings sound better than they are.
If you are interested in the Army program, now is the time, the can't fill the school.
matt

Well, of course everything has a price, Matt, and Army schools can carry a high price. Of my own Army anesthesia days I have often said I wouldn't take a million dollars for all that I saw and all that I learned of the big wide wonderful world of anesthesia. ....And wouldn't repeat it all for a million either.

deepz

mwbeah · Dec 23, 2004

I usually am not this animated with responses but when there is a false statement it really steams me. Matt, you are "knocking" the program by not being truthful about your experience and how our application process works.

I know you had an interview, or did you forget that you talked with a CRNA (I know you did, remember I am an Army CRNA and its a small community). Your post about your "twice turning down" the school re-enlightened me on your particular situation at that time (would you like me to rehash why you "turned it down"). Like I said, just because you had a negative experience why would you push your bias on others (it really irritates people).

THERE IS AN interview process. I had to interview three people last year alone. You make up the inequity of pay with your moonlighting, and the autonomy is second to none. By, the way the memo from Major General Pollock (the ANC chief) has addressed the bonus situation and yes in fact increased it. (Or didn't you get the memo about that, Matt). You know as well as I do that a CPT on the floor has no idea about the CRNA community and the issues surrounding the military practice (don't B.S me by saying that you as a CPT on the floor know about our situation, its ridiculous).

People, you don't come into the military to get rich, it is a much more noble cause, during OIF one you bet your bottom that I was proud to perform trauma anesthesia on the wounded troops in Iraq.

And Matt, if you would have read the November newsletter, you would know that it is not 100% pick up. Please be informed before you offer misinformation. Like I said before, the people who do not meet the qualifications do not proceed in the selection process. The applicants that progress through up until the selection board meets have met the pre-reqs and then the interview from the Chief CRNA at the facility they interviewed at is typically the deciding factor (so the applicants have all the qualifications which is why there is a high acceptance rate, bottom line if you don't have the pre-reqs you don't continue along the application process).

Mike

mwbeah · Jun 29, 2005

Just wanted to refresh this post. The army started a new class this month and again did not fill the seats. I have a feeling the commitment required for accepting the schooling plays a part, but it is only 4.5 years after graduation.

The application process is beginning soon for next June. Review this post or IM me if anyone is interested. I promise I am not a recruiter, I am just proud of my program and looking for solid people to provide anesthesia for our soldiers.

Have a great day,

Mike

gotosleep · Jun 29, 2005

Just wanted to refresh this post. The army started a new class this month and again did not fill there seats. I have a feeling the commitment required for accepting the schooling plays a part, but it is only 4.5 years after graduation.
The application process is beginning soon for next June. Review this post or IM me if anyone is interested. I promise I am not a recruiter, I am just proud of my program and looking for solid people to provide anesthesia for our soldiers.
Have a great day,
Mike

Well good luck mike...I know the army is struggling with recruitment and retention in all MOS.

I am a Army Reserve CRNA (brand new civilian trained graduate) and I look forward to working with the Army trained CRNAs in the near future.

I've always told my friends and family that it is a matter of when, not if I am mobilized. I new it when I signed the dotted line, and I fully expect a deployment. Do you have any particular insight into the mobilization tempo and/or deployment destinations for Reserve CRNAs?

mwbeah · Jun 29, 2005

Well good luck mike...I know the army is struggling with recruitment and retention in all MOS.
I am a Army Reserve CRNA (brand new civilian trained graduate) and I look forward to working with the Army trained CRNAs in the near future.
I've always told my friends and family that it is a matter of when, not if I am mobilized. I new it when I signed the dotted line, and I fully expect a deployment. Do you have any particular insight into the mobilization tempo and/or deployment destinations for Reserve CRNAs?

OPTEMPO for Reserve CRNA's is a 90 day "boots on ground" deployment (possibly twice a year) either CONUS or OCONUS. Iraq is pretty much and brick and mortar operation in Baghdad, Mosul, and Tikrit. Afghanistan is more austere if you deploy with a FST.

I must express my Thanks to you for your support and dedication to our soldiers. When you deploy, you will understand exactly why you are there. More than likely, your efforts will facilitate saving several soldiers' lives.

If you have any questions PM me with your phone number and I will contact you to answer any of your questions.

Airborne,

Mike