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thanks for the overwhelming response to my im. here is the information again. civilians can apply and if accepted come onto active duty for the program (they are commissioned and are obligated volunteers for 7 years total...30 months of school and 4.5 years of payback.)

any questions please contact me.

phase i info: www.dns.amedd.army.mil/crna

some of the phase ii websites:

http://www.hood-meddac.army.mil/default.asp?page=crna_training&vi=n&mnu=3

http://www.wbamc.amedd.army.mil/departments/education/courses/crna/anesthesianursing.asp

http://www.tamc.amedd.army.mil/residency/mchk-he/anesthesia.htm

application info:

http://www.dns.amedd.army.mil/crna/images/res&directacc_information.pdf

take care,

mike

Just wanted to refresh this post. The army started a new class this month and again did not fill the seats. I have a feeling the commitment required for accepting the schooling plays a part, but it is only 4.5 years after graduation.

The application process is beginning soon for next June. Review this post or IM me if anyone is interested. I promise I am not a recruiter, I am just proud of my program and looking for solid people to provide anesthesia for our soldiers.

Have a great day,

Mike

I could have used this info last year. I attempted to apply this year, but my graduation date from my ADN to BSN program was several days after the deadline with not enough time for a waiver. I also had some trouble getting accurate information from the healthcare recruiter. I plan on applying next year.

According to the timeline on the civilian application website, you should start the application process asap after the first of the year. You have to apply to the direct accessions program and get accepted before you can apply to the Anesthesia program.

I am a prior service Army medic that served on the 67th FST out of Germany for 3 years. There are lots of pros and cons to being a military CRNA from my observations, but I don't think anyone can dispute the autonomy CRNA's have in the military.

It's good to see this information being published on this site for others to benefit from. LTC Fischer provided another website that may have more updated information at times:

http://www.dns.amedd.army.mil/crna (This site was not updated until may of 05)

This is another site

https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/active/OPhsdan/default.htm

the information is usually very current from this site according to LTC Fischer, ANC

I look forward to the application process next year.

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Specializes in ICU, ER, flight , anesthesia.
I could have used this info last year. I attempted to apply this year, but my graduation date from my ADN to BSN program was several days after the deadline with not enough time for a waiver. I also had some trouble getting accurate information from the healthcare recruiter. I plan on applying next year.

According to the timeline on the civilian application website, you should start the application process asap after the first of the year. You have to apply to the direct accessions program and get accepted before you can apply to the Anesthesia program.

I am a prior service Army medic that served on the 67th FST out of Germany for 3 years. There are lots of pros and cons to being a military CRNA from my observations, but I don't think anyone can dispute the autonomy CRNA's have in the military.

It's good to see this information being published on this site for others to benefit from. LTC Fischer provided another website that may have more updated information at times:

http://www.dns.amedd.army.mil/crna (This site was not updated until may of 05)

This is another site

https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/active/OPhsdan/default.htm

the information is usually very current from this site according to LTC Fischer, ANC

I look forward to the application process next year.

If you are not interested in active duty, the Army also has a stipend program for CRNA students called the STRAP program. You are paid a $1500 monthly stipend while in school and up to $50000 loan reimbursement upon graduation. You owe them 8 years of reserve time (starts while you are in school so you would only have 5-6 yrs left when you graduate). I was just sworn in as a 1Lt. yesterday, and I'm almost more excited about that than school! If you are going to TWU or TCU, PM me and I will get you the recruiter's name.

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Specializes in CRNA, ICU,ER,Cathlab, PACU.

any GS employees at MAMC out there? I would like to return to MAMC as a CRNA when I graduate.

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I could have used this info last year. I attempted to apply this year, but my graduation date from my ADN to BSN program was several days after the deadline with not enough time for a waiver. I also had some trouble getting accurate information from the healthcare recruiter. I plan on applying next year.

According to the timeline on the civilian application website, you should start the application process asap after the first of the year. You have to apply to the direct accessions program and get accepted before you can apply to the Anesthesia program.

I am a prior service Army medic that served on the 67th FST out of Germany for 3 years. There are lots of pros and cons to being a military CRNA from my observations, but I don't think anyone can dispute the autonomy CRNA's have in the military.

It's good to see this information being published on this site for others to benefit from. LTC Fischer provided another website that may have more updated information at times:

http://www.dns.amedd.army.mil/crna (This site was not updated until may of 05)

This is another site

https://www.hrc.army.mil/site/active/OPhsdan/default.htm

the information is usually very current from this site according to LTC Fischer, ANC

I look forward to the application process next year.

check your mailbox

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Army Reserve STRAP stipen is $1235/mnth as qouted from last yr. I signed my contract two days ago. My back ground is 6 yrs enlisted in the Army Reserve & National Guard, then 5yrs active duty. I chose to leave active duty to pursue nurse anesthesia school on my own, saved money etc. My post education obligation is 4to4.5yrs in a TPU status or IMA status with the Army Reserves for the full stipen. What does that mean TPU (troop program unit) one weekend drill a month, IMA (Individual Mobilized Augmentee) basically to are assigned against an active duty position in a military hospital, ex; assigned as a CRNA for BAMC (brooke army medical center) in san antonio, tx. You are then required to do at a min 12-day annual training, and you coordinated the rest with the unit, very flexible.

Bottom line is that getting full funding for Nurse anesthesia through the Army Reserves is possible. Here are the numbers

School A tuition/books $38K gross est.

School B tuition/books $43K gross est.

Both are 28-mnths

STRAP Program Stipend for 28-mnths

($1235x28) -$34580

Drill Pay for my rank/time Captain/O-3/10yrs

($661x28-mnths) -$18504

Total assistance: $53088 (postive $15-10K more than school)

Also when you accept the STRAP Program, also accept the HSLRP(healthcare student loan repayment program) even if you don't need it, the program allows you to accept it and turn it down after you graduate, however can not turn it down now and then ask for it later. The loan repayment will not start untill you graduate.

you say, I don't want to be drill with a unit while i'm in school, solution apply for attachment into the NAAD (National AMEDD Augmentation Detachment). Now this is not for everyone, if you cannot manage your career on your own, then this is not for you. below is the link:

http://www.usarc.army.mil/naad/

What is the NAAD, basically it is a place for critical shortages of Army Medical Department personel who are not close to a unit or who are in critical shortage MOS training programs, ie CRNA or Medical School. You are non-deployable during this time and will do your required training on your schedule. These people will provide all your personnel, training, finance needs while you are in the program.

What's required of you is to have an active role in managing your career,

you need to take a physical fitness test twice a year, find a way of doing 48-drills (4-hour blocks of training) This can be done while studying, CME course or several other things, just can not involve direct patient care. As for your 14-day annual training, although recommended, not required during the stipend phase for STRAP program members. You can go to an army course or go to a CME/CEU confrence, the NAAD will pay all travel/room etc and upto $250 of your registration fee and you will ge paid while your there.

The NAAD will even assist in paying for the Valley Anesthesia review or any other review you want. Just like above $250 max towards registration, travel, room, and pay while you are there.

And in the end after you graduate, what is your obligation; I'm no recuriter, but if this is your first contract with any service you owe 8yrs, that can be served 4yrs in the selective reserve (ie once a month TPU unit) and 4yrs in the IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve) hanging out in Ft. Livingroom on your couch and called up during war/other crisis/shortages. For those who have served previously, 2yrs of select reserve for every 1yr of stipen, basically 4.5yrs serving in a TPU or IMA unit. If you want to repay your time back in the IRR, then you will only recieve 1/2 of the stipen and no drill pay. One thing most no military people over look is that if a new accession and direct commission then you are required to go to OBC (officer basic course) 2weeks in san antonio getting a crash course in how to be an officer, covers the very, very, very basics. It's a gentlemans course so you will be done everyday by 5pm and drinking by 7pm on the riverwalk. No crawling through mud, etc. Will have to take a physical fitness test, so if you can't do pushups or situps and a 2mile run, I can see you may struggle with that. Maybe you should try the airforce then, just kidding.

The link above answers some questions about the NAAD, the STRAP program, and if you are a civilian then you need to start with a Army Healthcare Recruitier first.

http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/index.jsp

Good luck, any questions PM me.

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Army Reserve STRAP stipen is $1235/mnth as qouted from last yr. I signed my contract two days ago. My back ground is 6 yrs enlisted in the Army Reserve & National Guard, then 5yrs active duty. I chose to leave active duty to pursue nurse anesthesia school on my own, saved money etc. My post education obligation is 4to4.5yrs in a TPU status or IMA status with the Army Reserves for the full stipen. What does that mean TPU (troop program unit) one weekend drill a month, IMA (Individual Mobilized Augmentee) basically to are assigned against an active duty position in a military hospital, ex; assigned as a CRNA for BAMC (brooke army medical center) in san antonio, tx. You are then required to do at a min 12-day annual training, and you coordinated the rest with the unit, very flexible.

Bottom line is that getting full funding for Nurse anesthesia through the Army Reserves is possible. Here are the numbers

School A tuition/books $38K gross est.

School B tuition/books $43K gross est.

Both are 28-mnths

STRAP Program Stipend for 28-mnths

($1235x28) -$34580

Drill Pay for my rank/time Captain/O-3/10yrs

($661x28-mnths) -$18504

Total assistance: $53088 (postive $15-10K more than school)

Also when you accept the STRAP Program, also accept the HSLRP(healthcare student loan repayment program) even if you don't need it, the program allows you to accept it and turn it down after you graduate, however can not turn it down now and then ask for it later. The loan repayment will not start untill you graduate.

you say, I don't want to be drill with a unit while i'm in school, solution apply for attachment into the NAAD (National AMEDD Augmentation Detachment). Now this is not for everyone, if you cannot manage your career on your own, then this is not for you. below is the link:

http://www.usarc.army.mil/naad/

What is the NAAD, basically it is a place for critical shortages of Army Medical Department personel who are not close to a unit or who are in critical shortage MOS training programs, ie CRNA or Medical School. You are non-deployable during this time and will do your required training on your schedule. These people will provide all your personnel, training, finance needs while you are in the program.

What's required of you is to have an active role in managing your career,

you need to take a physical fitness test twice a year, find a way of doing 48-drills (4-hour blocks of training) This can be done while studying, CME course or several other things, just can not involve direct patient care. As for your 14-day annual training, although recommended, not required during the stipend phase for STRAP program members. You can go to an army course or go to a CME/CEU confrence, the NAAD will pay all travel/room etc and upto $250 of your registration fee and you will ge paid while your there.

The NAAD will even assist in paying for the Valley Anesthesia review or any other review you want. Just like above $250 max towards registration, travel, room, and pay while you are there.

And in the end after you graduate, what is your obligation; I'm no recuriter, but if this is your first contract with any service you owe 8yrs, that can be served 4yrs in the selective reserve (ie once a month TPU unit) and 4yrs in the IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve) hanging out in Ft. Livingroom on your couch and called up during war/other crisis/shortages. For those who have served previously, 2yrs of select reserve for every 1yr of stipen, basically 4.5yrs serving in a TPU or IMA unit. If you want to repay your time back in the IRR, then you will only recieve 1/2 of the stipen and no drill pay. One thing most no military people over look is that if a new accession and direct commission then you are required to go to OBC (officer basic course) 2weeks in san antonio getting a crash course in how to be an officer, covers the very, very, very basics. It's a gentlemans course so you will be done everyday by 5pm and drinking by 7pm on the riverwalk. No crawling through mud, etc. Will have to take a physical fitness test, so if you can't do pushups or situps and a 2mile run, I can see you may struggle with that. Maybe you should try the airforce then, just kidding.

The link above answers some questions about the NAAD, the STRAP program, and if you are a civilian then you need to start with a Army Healthcare Recruitier first.

http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/index.jsp

Good luck, any questions PM me.

well done...very accurate description. This is what I did to obtain my CRNA education.

One thing though...

"basically 4.5yrs serving in a TPU or IMA unit."

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But my understanding is that there is no half years in obligation service "pay back time". In other words, if your school was 24 months long...you inherit a 4 year obligation. However, if your program was 25 months long..you inherit a 6 year obligation. My program was 33 months long...I inherited a 6 year obligation. By my estimation then, a 28 month program graduate inherits a 6 year obligation.

Am I right?

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well done...very accurate description. This is what I did to obtain my CRNA education.

One thing though...

"basically 4.5yrs serving in a TPU or IMA unit."

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But my understanding is that there is no half years in obligation service "pay back time". In other words, if your school was 24 months long...you inherit a 4 year obligation. However, if your program was 25 months long..you inherit a 6 year obligation. My program was 33 months long...I inherited a 6 year obligation. By my estimation then, a 28 month program graduate inherits a 6 year obligation.

Am I right?

It is 4.5 years, 3 years for the first year of school and 1 for 1 after that. That makes the 30 months of school (Active Duty) with a 4.5 year payback. The Army will give you .5 year paybacks depending on the length of your school.

Mike

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It is 4.5 years, 3 years for the first year of school and 1 for 1 after that. That makes the 30 months of school (Active Duty) with a 4.5 year payback. The Army will give you .5 year paybacks depending on the length of your school.

Mike

you're talking about active duty...I'm talking about the reserve STRAP program.

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It is 4.5 years, 3 years for the first year of school and 1 for 1 after that. That makes the 30 months of school (Active Duty) with a 4.5 year payback. The Army will give you .5 year paybacks depending on the length of your school.

Mike

Can you tell us what the pro-pay is now for CRNA both under ADSO and what is goes to when you are done paying back your time? I read an article on the aana site that said it was 15,000 for a 1 year and 40,000 for a 4 year commit. Can you give us some insight on the additional pay incentives the Army offers over and above your rank based compensation?

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Can you tell us what the pro-pay is now for CRNA both under ADSO and what is goes to when you are done paying back your time? I read an article on the aana site that said it was 15,000 for a 1 year and 40,000 for a 4 year commit. Can you give us some insight on the additional pay incentives the Army offers over and above your rank based compensation?

Additionally, you received board certification pay once you graduate. Here is a list of some of the benefits of being a military CRNA:

1) Taking care of soldiers

2) Autonomy second to none

3) The change in the bonus makes salaries very comparable to the outside (especially once you are a senior Captain or Major).

4) The training is outstanding

5) The network developed is a great thing once you leave the military either after fulfilling you obligation or retiring

6) YOU ARE PAID TO BE A STUDENT AND YOUR COURSE IS FREE

7) You can still "moonlight" on your time (believe me we all do it, so that adds to the monetary compensation). Getting a part time gig is easy, everyone "loves" military CRNAs because of our ability to be very autonomous.

I could go on and on, the military has been good to me. I started out in 1988 as a Private who had no direction or focus and have since accomplished more than I would have ever dreamed.

The military deployments do suck (I am not going to lie), but you take the good with the bad.

I was able to go to school, have my bills paid for, have two children while in school (my wife is an angel). I did not have to interrupt my life for three years while I attended.

Please if anyone is interested, I think it would be a disservice not to contact me and talk about this program. I SWEAR I AM NOT A RECRUITER (I am just extremely proud of the program). I have talked with several people about the program from this site, you can ask them, I will not BS you. I will tell you the good and the bad of USAGPAN.

Have a great day,

Mike

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