I was in PNAP/VRP for almost 5 years and after relapsing, receiving extension to my contract etc. I just could no longer afford to stay in the program despite remaining clean and sober (to this day). I sat in my car one day when I had been picked to random test and I had $20 and no gas money. Do I get gas, or do I get a test that I can't get to? (Rural area, no buses) It was that day I knew I couldn't do it any more. So I voluntarily agreed to suspension, no fight, no contest, what could I do? The BON has no sympathy for financial hardship apparently.
Anyway, I received a nice friendly letter from the NPDB, National Provider Database with a lovely report of how I violated terms and conditions and and that I am "not fit to practice nursing due to alcohol or other substance abuse". So my attorney told me that he could dispute it with the board and I never heard from him for months. I spoke to him the other day and he denies ever telling me such a thing and that he can't do anything further for me (besides spend my big fat retainer that he got and really did nothing for).
In reviewing other suspended nurses orders on the BON website I don't see many other nurses that are reported to the NPDB, even though they have violated terms and been ultimately suspended. I personally know 2 nurses who while in the program relapsed, committed crimes and got suspended and they did not get reported to the NPDB...! I'm wondering what makes me so different? I was not in DMU and entered the program voluntarily. I quit due to financial hardship and I'm trying to change careers. However, people are telling me that this will show up on any background checks forever.
Can anyone help a girl out here? Any explanation would be helpful.
My suspicion is that for those of us that have public discipline, it doesn’t matter wether we are on it. Just like the black mark on the license is permanent, so would that be. Per thier website, the list is used for ‘credentialling and hiring decisions.’ They way I see it is that if someone is going to decline to hire me because of what is on my license, it doesn’t matter what is on the NPDB. It would be the same thing.
Now if someone is fortunate enough (unlike me) to have had this remain confidential (as in not on the license) I think all you can do is add an addendum to the report. I don’t think one’s existence on the list can be removed.
what that does tell me is that there is no such thing as real confidentiality. Someone, somewhere, somehow is going to find out. That however is my own personal humiliation as I am a very private person.
If it’s anyone that I would want to work for, like the dirt on the license, what is there is not particularly relavent.
The OIG is a legal thing. As others have said in other threads, if you are on that list you can’t even sweep floors in a place that takes Medicare/Medicaid. For a listing on that to be permanent, I reckon you’d have to have really messed up.
My suspicion is that for those of us that have public discipline, it doesn’t matter wether we are on it. Just like the black mark on the license is permanent, so would that be. Per thier website, the list is used for ‘credentialling and hiring decisions.’ They way I see it is that if someone is going to decline to hire me because of what is on my license, it doesn’t matter what is on the NPDB. It would be the same thing.
Now if someone is fortunate enough (unlike me) to have had this remain confidential (as in not on the license) I think all you can do is add an addendum to the report. I don’t think one’s existence on the list can be removed.
what that does tell me is that there is no such thing as real confidentiality. Someone, somewhere, somehow is going to find out. That however is my own personal humiliation as I am a very private person.
If it’s anyone that I would want to work for, like the dirt on the license, what is there is not particularly relavent.
The OIG is a legal thing. As others have said in other threads, if you are on that list you can’t even sweep floors in a place that takes Medicare/Medicaid. For a listing on that to be permanent, I reckon you’d have to have really messed up.
A remark on someone's license is permanent. The OIG exclusion list is not in many cases.
catsmeow1972, BSN, RN
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My suspicion is that for those of us that have public discipline, it doesn’t matter wether we are on it. Just like the black mark on the license is permanent, so would that be. Per thier website, the list is used for ‘credentialling and hiring decisions.’ They way I see it is that if someone is going to decline to hire me because of what is on my license, it doesn’t matter what is on the NPDB. It would be the same thing.
Now if someone is fortunate enough (unlike me) to have had this remain confidential (as in not on the license) I think all you can do is add an addendum to the report. I don’t think one’s existence on the list can be removed.
what that does tell me is that there is no such thing as real confidentiality. Someone, somewhere, somehow is going to find out. That however is my own personal humiliation as I am a very private person.
If it’s anyone that I would want to work for, like the dirt on the license, what is there is not particularly relavent.
The OIG is a legal thing. As others have said in other threads, if you are on that list you can’t even sweep floors in a place that takes Medicare/Medicaid. For a listing on that to be permanent, I reckon you’d have to have really messed up.