What will happen with all of the ASN programs now BSN is the norm?

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What will happen with all of the ASN programs now BSN is the norm?

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee, this "rumor" has been perpetuated by many. Just like someone told "them", that LPN's were going to be phased out. In 1979, when I went to LPN school, someone tried to tell me that in a few years, I wouldn't be able to get a job, because they were going to do away with LPN's, news flash it didn't happen, it's been 35 years. I have always had a job, never had trouble getting a job. Now, people are saying only BSN's will have jobs. This is another "rumor". No one is doing away with anyone.:banghead:

We are in a different economy now.

There are virtually no more manufacturing jobs.

Its a global economy now.

If you do not have the educational requirements most employers want,your job can be outsourced.

In nursing,its actually insourcing.

Remember the last shortage around early 2000's?

What did employers in my area do?

Did they relax their education requirements?

NO they did not.

Why,they hired nurses from overseas.

Plus,do not forget, healthcare HAS advanced.

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I work at a Chicago hospital that has no intention of going magnet and their strategy for retention is to hire ADNs. It's the suburban hospitals that are all magnet and they are fully staffed. Right now at non-magnet hospitals, it can be be a bad thing to have a BSN, I guarantee you it is where I work.

I don't know anything about this, but I read a post a few weeks ago on my school alumni Facebook page about something happening in Illinois that may require hospitals to hire a certain percentage of ADN students.

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I work at a Chicago hospital that has no intention of going magnet and their strategy for retention is to hire ADNs. It's the suburban hospitals that are all magnet and they are fully staffed. Right now at non-magnet hospitals, it can be be a bad thing to have a BSN, I guarantee you it is where I work.

Interesting SuburbsGirl. Please explain what is bad to have a BSN? Not hiring BSN?

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Interesting SuburbsGirl. Please explain what is bad to have a BSN? Not hiring BSN?

Keep in mind that Chicago and it's suburbs are saturated.

Put yourself in a hiring manager shoes in a dense are like Chicago. If you received an application from a BSN and an ADN that both lived a 30 minute car ride away, which applicant do you think you will retain longer? The BSN probably doesn't want to even be there, they just can't get in at their "dream" hospital. The ADN will likely be far more loyal.

The only BSN's my manager will even consider right now are those from the neighborhood. Our hospital is a good hospital, but it's no one's dream to work here. We are getting suburban ADN's (self included) that are appreciative, and loyal.

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Keep in mind that Chicago and it's suburbs are saturated.

Put yourself in a hiring manager shoes in a dense are like Chicago. If you received an application from a BSN and an ADN that both lived a 30 minute car ride away, which applicant do you think you will retain longer? The BSN probably doesn't want to even be there, they just can't get in at their "dream" hospital. The ADN will likely be far more loyal.

The only BSN's my manager will even consider right now are those from the neighborhood. Our hospital is a good hospital, but it's no one's dream to work here. We are getting suburban ADN's (self included) that are appreciative, and loyal.

Interesting take. I think it proves the point that everyone can theorize whatever they like depending on what their core beliefs are. . .

Another faithful poster here (PMFB-RN) feels BSN nurses are more desirable to employers due to their debt. . . That ADN nurses are more mobile and independent due to less student debt and less fear of "voting with their feet" when things get bad.

I quote him below (just with copy/paste, I'm not all that skilled and perhaps it's my night off and I get to enjoy adult beverages, just saying. . .)

"The economy really had nothing to do with the current glut of nurses, except it pushed the glut day ahead a few years.

The creation of a vast surplus of nurses has been planned and underway for years now and would have happened regardless of the economy, just later in a good economy.

The real value to BSN prepared RN grads from hospital's point of view is that they tend to be younger, have less life experience and be much further into debt (student loans). Thus they are seen as much less likely to vote with their feet when faced with unsafe working conditions or poor treatment from management."

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BSN's are not the norm. Do not believe everything you read on the internet. Take some time and do some research about the job market in your area. There are many different ways to get your education and one way is not any better than the other. We all take different paths in life and we all take different ways to get there.

Frankly, I am over the whole ADN vs. BSN thing. There are good and bad each way. And no, ADN's will be able to get jobs in other places than nursing homes. Some people say the market is saturated, others say it isn't. It honestly depends where you live. I can't speak for other areas in the country, just mine.

You also have to keep in mind, when people apply for jobs and don't get them, there usually are a litany of reasons. These people come in here and say it's because there were so many applicants, or I have no experience so no one will hire me, I don't have the right degree, etc. Meanwhile they showed up to the interview in their pj's and they had no resume. There's a lot that goes into it.

Just make sure you research your area and pick the right school for you.

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