Rather work with men or women?

Runman1914, MSN, RN · Mar 5, 2008

Then why ask, and why not just speak up as advised. You solve nothing by discussing things unrelated on a BB. You may solve them by speaking up. Or at least find where you stand.
I am a traveler also. And as a rule in many places, the traveler gets the short end of the stick....regardless of gender/race/etc. You either speak up if it bothers you so much or you deal with it. I have spoken and won , and I have spoken up and lost. As a traveler and a nurse, that is how it works....regardless of gender, race, etc.
Politically correct or just correct doesn't matter. You either post a meaningless post on a BB, which does no good and has nothing to do with why you are upset, or you actually speak up and change things. Which makes more sense?????
It also doesn't make a lot of sense to work in a female dominated profession, if you are going to assume that they are naturally biased against you. Especially if you are not willing to speak up against that treatment.

I guess we will agree to disagree on this subject. I never said i was upset in any way. I only stated that working with men and women is very different. Sorry if i have offended anyone .

KLKRN, RN · Mar 5, 2008

"I never said i was upset in any way. I only stated that working with men and women is very different...."

To the contrary, you seem to be upset by what you consider more than a difference:

"I would love to believe this politically correct post. I have been a travel nurse for 8 years . I have worked at 15 different hospitals and i have the same experience every where i go. Over and over im assigned the problem family and patients. All lifting is mine and even told to call the hostile doctors for other nurses.

Also i have spoken to numerous other male nurses with the same experience. I am in no way gender bias but experience speaks for itself."

It sounds as though you feel you are being treated unfairly because of your gender, and what you possibly consider your "different" qualities such as strength and aggressiveness in handling aggressive doctors and families.

Are you unaware that your statements strongly suggest anger and resentment?

Medic2RN, BSN, RN, EMT-P · Mar 5, 2008

Gringoloco, you have obviously touched a nerve with your post. Perhaps you should of labeled it as a 'vent' instead and could have avoided some of the hostility that has been posted as responses. I have not sensed any anger on your part and by reading your other posts, you don't appear to be a troublemaker, IMO.

I agree with the other poster who said to speak up. Let the other nurses call their own cranky doctors, agree to lift, but only as helping to lift - your back is as precious as the other nurses. Perhaps that will make a difference in how you feel and how others will treat you.

I once worked in a male dominated profession where I knew the majority were biased against females. I had to prove myself, be extremely assertive and vocal. It worked for me, maybe it would work for you too.

People vent on here all the time about their experiences, you should have the same courtesy.

Good luck to you

Penguin08 · Mar 5, 2008

OMG! Men by a long shot.

texasmedicrnj · Mar 5, 2008

I can not say men or women...granted men I have found are less back stabbers and will not gossip....but women usually the older ones are fun to work with....makes the shift go by quick.

bmh-lpn · Mar 5, 2008

If they were both competent and skilled nurses..., most definitely Men! Less drama's, back stabbing and better working environment from my experiences.

snoozie64 · Mar 5, 2008

Having successfully navigated a 21-year military career where I was often the only female electronics technician in the division I can confidently report that I enjoy working with both men and women. My preference for work mates does not hinge on gender but instead on attitude. All of us have bad days (sometimes they last months or even years!), but I have found the best folks to work with and for are the ones who maintain a sense of humor (even if it's twisted) and understand that the only thing we are truly in control of is our attitude.

I've seen many articles and posts on this forum about not pre-judging people or situations and assessing information as it's presented. Based on this philosophy, why not let each person make a case for your acceptance based on their actions and words, not their gender. The military is mostly male so obviously most of the people you come to dislike are men; conversely, nursing is mostly female so you will probably dislike more women. In addition to the prevalence of one gender in a profession, there is also a cultural influence that determines the workplace attitude. The perceived difference between the value of being a doctor and the value of being a nurse is powerful as well. Don't buy into the conventional wisdom that one gender is better to work with than the other; there are too many exceptions to that rule!

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snoozie64 · Mar 5, 2008

You are brave to post this comment so I thank you for opening the door.... What you are talking about here is known as sexual politics and it fosters competition based on attractiveness and not competence. This can be bad for you as well as the other women and men in your department. The beauty contest atmosphere (which may be totally subliminal) calls into question everyone's (nurses, doctors, and administrators) credibility to exercise good judgment. Do you provide better care to patients you deem more attractive? One would hope not, but if males are being nice to you because you're "relatively attractive" and that makes you feel you have an edge with them, then one wonders if that same attitude carries over into other areas.

It is a gift to have healthy self-esteem; but don't let self-esteem become self-centered and egotistical--I'm not saying you are doing this, just be aware of it.

KLKRN, RN · Mar 5, 2008

Excellent, excellent post, Snoozie64!

Ruby Vee, BSN · Mar 5, 2008

you are brave to post this comment so i thank you for opening the door.... what you are talking about here is known as sexual politics and it fosters competition based on attractiveness and not competence. this can be bad for you as well as the other women and men in your department. the beauty contest atmosphere (which may be totally subliminal) calls into question everyone's (nurses, doctors, and administrators) credibility to exercise good judgment. do you provide better care to patients you deem more attractive? one would hope not, but if males are being nice to you because you're "relatively attractive" and that makes you feel you have an edge with them, then one wonders if that same attitude carries over into other areas.
it is a gift to have healthy self-esteem; but don't let self-esteem become self-centered and egotistical--i'm not saying you are doing this, just be aware of it.

you've said it all much better than i could have!

JanieRN555 · Mar 6, 2008

Men without a doubt.

In my 16yrs as a Nurse I worked with mostly women, L&D for the most part. 3 yrs I took a break and worked as a Mental Health Nurse for the County.

My clients....jail inmates. Even there I dreaded working with the women

inmates. The women 99% of the time had a reason/excuse for

their crime. My Mom didn't love me My Dad molested me...My

husband cheated on me..Blah.Blah.Blah. :yawn:

I'm a woman, and I know I do it. :bugeyes:

My all true saying "It is what It is".

Janie

cardiacRN2006, ADN, RN · Mar 6, 2008

My clients....jail inmates. Even there I dreaded working with the women
inmates. The women 99% of the time had a reason/excuse for
their crime. My Mom didn't love me My Dad molested me...My
husband cheated on me..Blah.Blah.Blah.

Tacky beyond words.

Child molestation and rape is an awful thing in this country. Children who suffer from it bear deep scars. Nice to know that a nurse is yawning, or saying "blah, blah, blah" to this tragic crime and it's long standing consequences.

Despicable.