Random Valuable NCLEX Facts :)

Just took the NCLEX and now have a bunch of questions about how we think you did, whether the PVT really works, what happens next, and so on? READ THIS and find out your answers!

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Here's a Not-So-Quick List (but a pretty thorough one!) of miscellaneous questions that get posted FREQUENTLY:

✔️ If you needed to answer only the minimum number of questions (75 for RN, 85 for PN) you either did very well and could demonstrate in a minimum amount of questioning that you were competent to begin nursing practice....OR.....you did very poorly and the computer knew that no matter how many questions it threw your way, there was no possibility of you passing that day.

✔️ Other than the above, ANY NUMBER of questions between 76 and 265 can be given without ANY INDICATION of whether you passed or failed. Please don't ask everyone "I got 104 questions, do you think I passed?" We don't know. We can't know. Gotta wait.

✔️ Having many SATA questions, having few SATA questions, means nothing. SATA is not indicative of "higher level questions", this is a myth. SATA questions may be above the passing standard, or below it. And it's danged near impossible to know which it is, since one person's "hard" question might be someone else's "easy" question. If you get SATA questions.....you get SATA questions. Same as if you got drag/drop, etc. Don't read anything more into it.

✔️ Now for the biggie......ready?......"DOES THE PVT WORK?!?!" Yes....and no. It "works" as well as it has ever "worked"; people repeatedly saying "it worked for me" or "it didn't work for me" just means they either did it correctly.....or they didn't.

So how does it work? Well, for starters, the NCLEX is scored two times within a 24 hour period. Anyone trying the PVT PRIOR TO 24 HOURS after their exam ONLY knows what their first score was. That's it. Nothing else. They know that it's *LIKELY* they have guessed correctly....but those who say "it didn't work for me, it was wrong, it said I passed/failed and I failed/passed" didn't heed the info in this post .

If your first scoring (done immediately upon completion) is a PASS, and you try the trick after that first scoring, you think 'yay, I PASSED!' And with any luck you did. But not until the SECOND scoring is done will that be known. For those who try the trick right after they leave the testing site and see their card was charged (failed), they then think 'OH NO! I failed!' but that might be just as wrong. Because if the second score is a PASS, that is the one that sticks.....AND they'll be out $$ for a new test registration they don't need. AND it's non-refundable, forget about getting it back.

MOST people will fall into the group of people whose second scores match their first: pass or fail the first scoring is also pass or fail the second. They didn't find out early if they passed or failed, they just didn't realize they only had HALF the picture....and probably will never know, unless they learn how this thing works.

So, everyone.....will trying the PVT let you know if you passed or failed? YES.....if you do it only as described. Don't do it before 24 hours' time, period. Why make yourself nuts?

✔️ "My registration is "on hold", what does that mean?!" It means that a hold was placed on your exam results; holds last typically from 24-72 hours. During this time, you CANNOT GET ANYWHERE WITH PVT. IT WON'T WORK until the hold is lifted.

So why is there a hold? Maybe you finished 'too fast'. Maybe your palm scan didn't take on the first pass through.....maybe a fingerprint scan missed. Maybe there was a computer glitch at your testing facility; a power loss that puts everyone on backup power is a safe bet for a hold. Sometimes there is a cheating concern, or someone in your testing center had an issue along those lines. There are LOTS of reasons, some of which you might not even be aware of, and are wondering "why" you have a hold.

But here's the thing: Doesn't matter why. It just is. And having a hold placed doesn't make you any less likely to pass than if there WASN'T a hold placed. Go with it.

Quick Results are OFFICIAL 'pass' or 'fail' results, released by Pearson Vue for a fee of $8. These results are for the test ONLY, and don't indicate when or if a license will be issued in your name: that's up to the State BoN you applied to.

WHEN will your State BoN post your license info? Varies tremendously by State. Some do it within a day or two, others a week, others a few weeks or longer. If you are sure there is nothing in your background that precludes you from being issued a license, DON'T sit there freaking out that you don't see your name on the BoN's website! Waste of good celebrating time, honestly.

Some States don't participate in Quick Results. For you, "Results Not Available" will ALWAYS show up as a pop up when you try to find out (AFTER 48 HOURS, please!) what your QR's are. Sorry!

Time for a wrap up! ?

  1. Don't read more into the type of questions, number of questions than you know at face value.
  2. Don't think a hold indicates a pass or fail....it indicates only a hold.
  3. Don't do the PVT before 24 hours and think you know something. You don't.

And above all, try to remember that while everyone HATES this test, it IS only a test....one of SO MANY you took since you started school! It isn't designed to test proficiency, just minimum competency.....so BREATHE!! You got through school, you got through test prep....you GOT this!!

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
qween03 said:
If you don't mind me asking, where did the DP get his/her information from?

To whom are you referring?

qween03 said:
The person who started the forum

Depends what information you are talking about. Much of the information, if not all of it, comes from the NCSBN website. People tend not to read it before posting questions here, so those of us who have become familiar with the questions (and the answers) refer to if often.

The PVT, as it is not an "official" anything, but rather a somewhat useful 'glitch' in the registration software used by Pearson Vue, does not have a reference that can be cited. However, after years of reviewing countless scenarios in thousands of posts by hundreds of members (and that's just on THIS website, there are others) patterns develop pretty clearly. After enough posts saying the same thing dozens and hundreds of posts later, without variation, one has to go with "what is, is".

When people offer different experiences, or believe they have proof of something different than what has been reported, more questions are asked by myself and other "veteran" members to see if there was a true anomoly, or....more often....an error on the part of the person posting to have them arrive at the wrong conclusion.

All in all, I think there's enough people here who know quite a lot about how both NCLEX-RN/NCLEX-PN works as wel as PVT to give much help to many ?

JustBeachyNurse said:
You are oversimplifying Blooms taxonmy to determine cognitive level of a question.

Definitely oversimplifying for the purpose of giving an example. ? That is how the test works, I was trying to let the person asking the question realize that there is no need to memorize every single thing, in order to pass you need to be able to apply what you know to bedside situations.

NamasteN said:
Definitely oversimplifying for the purpose of giving an example. ? That is how the test works, I was trying to let the person asking the question realize that there is no need to memorize every single thing, in order to pass you need to be able to apply what you know to bedside situations.

I believe what JustBeachyNurse was trying to get across is that you cannot determine whether a question is above passing or below passing standard by looking at it. In saying "this type of question is a higher-level question" would be a mistake. The examples given of "higher level questions" wouldn't be accurate, and people frequently make that mistake; that's what she was saying.

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
RNsRWe said:
I believe what JustBeachyNurse was trying to get across is that you cannot determine whether a question is above passing or below passing standard by looking at it. In saying "this type of question is a higher-level question" would be a mistake. The examples given of "higher level questions" wouldn't be accurate, and people frequently make that mistake; that's what she was saying.

Exactly. The examples given are actually inaccurate assumptions and therefore misleading to a poster that reads your response. I attended a seminar on educational foundations and assessments a while ago that included an overview of common barometers of cognitive difficulty of assessment questions such as Bloom's Taxonomy. Unless you are well versed in this highly specialized area of testing and educational & neuropsychology you are libel to make erroneous assumptions with your best guess estimating cognitive level of a question. There is so much more than the type of question and simple content that goes into determining higher vs lower cognitive level.

I'm confused on the first scoring and second scoring? Today I took my test for the second time and was shut off at 108 questions whereas my first test was the full 205. I tried the trick and was charged the full $200 so I'm obviously in the crying pits today. Please explain to me the whole first scoring and second scoring ?

And of course I payed instead of continuing to read this article!!! AHHH.

Vanessa5555 said:
And of course i payed instead of continuing to read this article!!! AHHH.

Yep, that's unfortunate :(

You have no way of knowing at this point if you passed or failed. Now that you've read the WHOLE article.....you should know there's nothing more to do now but sit tight and wait. Sorry!

Bump. Because it's that time of year ?

You found this for me just in time, LOL....I had posted an update of sorts on my other "NCLEX info" article; should put it here, too:

Just a note that I believe there are increasing instances of people getting "the bad pop up" and then finding out that they passed. This happens both when people put in valid CC info (and lose $200) or invalid info and get the "bad" pop up telling them that their card was declined and to check with their bank, etc etc.

It seems to be occurring more frequently now than in the past that Pearson Vue will throw out a 'test' charge, meaning that as long as you are willingly submitting your payment for a new registration, they are willing to take it. They are 'testing' your card to see if the payment will go through: if there is $$ there, it will take it. If there isn't, you get the 'card declined' notice.

In the past, it had always been taken as The Sign that one had failed the exam, because Pearson Vue hadn't been even attempting to charge someone for a new registration if one wouldn't be needed (because it was a passed exam). But nowadays.....they sure are. And everyone doing the PVT has to go past screens informing them of the fact that the submission is entirely NON-REFUNDABLE! So no, you can't ask for your money back after you pass and therefore don't need a new registration: you bought one anyway.

Probably the biggest issue for most people isn't the fact that they might lose $200, as an invalid card can be used. HOWEVER, if an invalid card is used and the 'test charge' is attempted to be made (and you get the 'card declined' thing)....you will absolutely believe you have failed based on the stupid "bad pop up"....and maybe you didn't.

Bottom line, folks, is the PVT is nothing more than a *MOSTLY* good Magic 8 Ball. MOST of the time if you get the good pop up you passed. MOST of the time if you got the bad pop up you failed. And SOMETIMES.....you are crying for no reason for days until you find out you really passed.....or you are celebrating for days until you find out you actually failed.

Consider carefully if you REALLY want to do this thing. Word to the wise!

I am still concerned. I took my NCLEX RN at 12 today. My status is still saying, "Results not available." After reading comments of people's status showing, "Delivery successful," I'm wondering if I failed the first scoring? Is that why my results aren't available? I got 162 (or 165) questions.

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
twilliams9259 said:
I am still concerned. I took my NCLEX RN at 12 today. My status is still saying, "Results not available." After reading comments of people's status showing, "Delivery successful," I'm wondering if I failed the first scoring? Is that why my results aren't available? I got 162 (or 165) questions.

The system has not said "delivery successful" since August 2014.Results not available only refers to status of quick results. If your state does not participate in quick results the status will be "results not available" forever. If your state participates in QR a link will appear allowing you to pay the $8 to receive your accurate quick results.