Ramp recovery for nurses recovery program for nurses New Jersey hair drug testing

Editorial Team / Admin · Oct 10

Moved to Nurses Recovery area.

Lala5555 · Oct 13

Hey, if you're in the eval stage, the hair rest is $600, and it's a one-time thing. They give u the option of hair or nail, and it's usually an 18 panel, but they can add stuff on like Propophol. For most substances, it does go back 6 months but can go as far back as a year. From my understanding if uve only taken something a few times over the 6month period it usually wouldnt show in your hair. They're suppose to take like 2 inches from the root and about the thickness of a pencil but they tend to take more if your hair is thin and they don't just take the 2 inches close to the root. They cut the whole thing and send it. Some ppl have had not enough hair taken and have had to go back. They usually ask where u want taken from but it's usually the back of your head. Also the hair is usually sent to USDTL for testing but RAMP usually sends u to like Cocentra to have the sample taken.

PassportCruiser · Oct 16

Generally speaking, hair can go back 2-3 months for these substances. It's a stretch saying it can go back 6 months. That's what the lab companies advertise things as.

Just like how they advertise Urine ETG to go back 5 days. It does not detect alcohol drinking 5 days ago. It's more like 24-72 hours depending on volume of alcohol.

JB C · Oct 16

1. Anthony, to add to some of the answers to your questions. It's not about "where you go" to get the hair test. Most places that you go to get a urine test for drug testing (of which there are hundreds of places) generally Collect the hair test sample. Nearly ALL (not ALL, but nearly ALL) hair tests conducted by monitoring programs/drug testing programs in the United States are contracted/ are sent to the USDTL lab for testing of the hair sample. It doesn't matter if you go to Concentra or AnyLabTest Now or Care Now or wherever (there are well over 50 of them) for them to Collect the sample, the sample will be sent to the USDTL. They will test 1.5 inches of hair. So, lets say they get a 4 inch piece of hair sent to them. They can tell the direction of hair growth under a microscope from most recent to most old, and the USDTL will cut the 1.5 inches of most recent growth and test that and discard the other 2.5 inches. Hair grows on average, about 0.5 inches per month, so they want a "3 month window" and so they test 1.5 inches of hair.

2. Stop it with the "panels" or "options." Option 1, panel 17, option 6a, panel 18, yada, yada, yada. Those are MEANINGLESS and do NOT get caught up in that because they are MEANINGLESS and here is why. Case Managers commonly "Add on" extra drugs to a standard panel or standard option that you are selected for. For example, lets just say you are selected for "Option 5" (again, whatever option 5 tests for/standard set of drugs) BUT...your program manager easily, and very commonly, will do "Add Ons' to that Option 5 and Add On's can be one drug or 2 or 3 drugs, in ADDITION to the Option 5 panel. Common add on's are Benadryl, Neurontin, Flexeril, K2, Salvia, Spice, Kratom, etc. You may think that you are only being tested for "Option 5" or whatever Option you are selected for and you look up Option 5 on the internet and see the standard list of drugs in Option 5 that are tested for, BUT....you could be tested for far more stuff than just "Option 5" and you will not know either. They will not tell you about "add on's." This is why I always tell nurses to "stop it" with the "panels or options" and "what is in the options or what is this panel made up of" because it does not matter when program managers COMMONLY (happens all of the time even with urine drug screens, not just hair) do "Add on's" to the standard panel or option you are selected for. An Add on can be Anything. You could be selected for a standard 5 panel simple urine drug test in the system (whatever option that is) and very easily, the program manager also adds on Benadryl or Neurontin or Flexeril, or all 3 of them, or inhalants or Kratom, or all 5 of them, etc, etc, on and on.

Hope this helps.

Nursinggirl17 · Oct 16

JB C said:

1. Anthony, to add to some of the answers to your questions. It's not about "where you go" to get the hair test. Most places that you go to get a urine test for drug testing (of which there are hundreds of places) generally Collect the hair test sample. Nearly ALL (not ALL, but nearly ALL) hair tests conducted by monitoring programs/drug testing programs in the United States are contracted/ are sent to the USDTL lab for testing of the hair sample. It doesn't matter if you go to Concentra or AnyLabTest Now or Care Now or wherever (there are well over 50 of them) for them to Collect the sample, the sample will be sent to the USDTL. They will test 1.5 inches of hair. So, lets say they get a 4 inch piece of hair sent to them. They can tell the direction of hair growth under a microscope from most recent to most old, and the USDTL will cut the 1.5 inches of most recent growth and test that and discard the other 2.5 inches. Hair grows on average, about 0.5 inches per month, so they want a "3 month window" and so they test 1.5 inches of hair.

2. Stop it with the "panels" or "options." Option 1, panel 17, option 6a, panel 18, yada, yada, yada. Those are MEANINGLESS and do NOT get caught up in that because they are MEANINGLESS and here is why. Case Managers commonly "Add on" extra drugs to a standard panel or standard option that you are selected for. For example, lets just say you are selected for "Option 5" (again, whatever option 5 tests for/standard set of drugs) BUT...your program manager easily, and very commonly, will do "Add Ons' to that Option 5 and Add On's can be one drug or 2 or 3 drugs, in ADDITION to the Option 5 panel. Common add on's are Benadryl, Neurontin, Flexeril, K2, Salvia, Spice, Kratom, etc. You may think that you are only being tested for "Option 5" or whatever Option you are selected for and you look up Option 5 on the internet and see the standard list of drugs in Option 5 that are tested for, BUT....you could be tested for far more stuff than just "Option 5" and you will not know either. They will not tell you about "add on's." This is why I always tell nurses to "stop it" with the "panels or options" and "what is in the options or what is this panel made up of" because it does not matter when program managers COMMONLY (happens all of the time even with urine drug screens, not just hair) do "Add on's" to the standard panel or option you are selected for. An Add on can be Anything. You could be selected for a standard 5 panel simple urine drug test in the system (whatever option that is) and very easily, the program manager also adds on Benadryl or Neurontin or Flexeril, or all 3 of them, or inhalants or Kratom, or all 5 of them, etc, etc, on and on.

Hope this helps.

Right I agree with you.. if one does not plan on trying to do drugs why even be concerned with the panel this panel that.. just do your time and abstain from everything possible . You cannot and will not beat this random system. It's just not worth starting over or adding more time, or going inpatient!

JB C · Oct 16

Nursinggirl17 said:

Right I agree with you.. if one does not plan on trying to do drugs why even be concerned with the panel this panel that.. just do your time and abstain from everything possible . You cannot and will not beat this random system. It's just not worth starting over or adding more time, or going inpatient!

Absolutely spot on. And by the way it sucks doing this time. It especially has to suck for someone without a true SUD, but once you are here, what can you do? You can simply avoid drugs and alcohol which will reduce anxiety and stress related to worrying about this panel or that panel or what was tested for and whether you will get more time added on. Or you can scheme, plan they to beat the system and more times than not, nurses will get caught. It's just not worth it.

I said this earlier. I spoke with my case manager 8 times TOTAL in my 5 years of monitoring and I spoke to the Bosrd 3 times in 5 years (once when I got my consent order once when I changed my address, and once when I ended the program). That's it, no other contact. I avoided them and they avoided me because my teats were negative and I was never late on a report. They left me alone.