Racism in NYC

It depicts racism and horrors at NYU Langone

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“Unmasked Nursing:” Nurses at NYU Langone struggle to maintain safety of patients amid racist and hostile work conditions.

12 hours ago, Cclm said:

Everyone of every color are "attached with disgusting acts against humanity". Insinuating only white people is well... Racist! 

Racism is about power and in America power is not in the hands on poc. That's why institutional racism is a thing. Don't try to bring up the reverse racism nonsense because that's been proven to be non-existent. Poc can be prejudice, ignorant, but they can't gain nor devalue a group that has the power, and control to establish policies fueling their racist viewpoints. That's why there are so many laws that target poc. Do you see any laws made by poc that devalue the white community ???? If you truly are a poc you truly should know better, because even white individuals themselves know about the racism and hatred within their own communities and call it out. Yet you an alleged poc think otherwise LOL okay go off then.

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12 hours ago, Cclm said:

Everyone of every color are "attached with disgusting acts against humanity". Insinuating only white people is well... Racist! 

While assumptions and stereotypes about white people do exist, this is considered racial prejudice, not racism. Racial prejudice refers to a set of discriminatory or derogatory attitudes based on assumptions derived from perceptions about race and/or skin colour. Thus, racial prejudice can indeed be directed at white people (e.g., “White people can’t dance”) but is not considered racism because of the systemic relationship to power. When backed with power, prejudice results in acts of discrimination and oppression against groups or individuals. In Canada, white people hold this cultural power due to Eurocentric modes of thinking, rooted in colonialism, that continue to reproduce and privilege whiteness. It is whiteness that has the power to define the terms of racialized others’ existence. 

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12 hours ago, Cclm said:

Everyone of every color are "attached with disgusting acts against humanity". Insinuating only white people is well... Racist! 

SO again let us unpack this. Firstly I was very direct in saying "non person of color," so if you want to attach "white people" to my connotations well if the shoe fits!! Now that is not to say that people in general can be discriminatory, anyone can. But again you're mixing apples and oranges. because you obviously aren't a POC because if you were you'd at least know what  

 

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Systemic Racism: A combination of systems, institutions and factors that advantage white people and for people of color, cause widespread harm and disadvantages in access and opportunity. One person or even one group of people did not create systemic racism, rather it: (1) is grounded in the history of our laws and institutions which were created on a foundation of white supremacy;* (2) exists in the institutions and policies that advantage white people and disadvantage people of color; and (3) takes places in interpersonal communication and behavior (e.g., slurs, bullying, offensive language) that maintains and supports systemic inequities and systemic racism.

In the above definition, the term “white supremacy” refers to the systematic marginalization or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges people who identify as white. It does not refer to extremist ideologies which believe that white people are genetically or culturally superior to non-whites and/or that white people should live in a whites-only society.

 People of color BY DEFINITION CAN NOT BE RACIST. I REPEAT PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT BE RACIST. 

You see the issue a lot of non people of color like your self think that when POC say someone is being racist its based on "just words and name calling." An FYI not all White people are Racist but all white people benefit from its fallout and privilege. Let's stay on topic because I'm tired of POC voices being drowned by nonsense. It's simple these allegations need to be investigated and if these experiences are validated then these nurses need to be held accountable its that simple. The question you should be asking are these things true? Why would this be tolerated in the workplace? Why did it take months for any action to be taken at all when multiple people have filed complaints?   

So instead of getting defensive maybe you should be asking direct questions related to the topic at hand instead of supporting people who diminish other experiences and call it "nothing."

Again it's racist. 

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42 minutes ago, 135pipe said:

Poc can be prejudice, ignorant, but they can't gain nor devalue a group that has the power, and control to establish policies fueling their racist viewpoints. That's why there are so many laws that target poc. Do you see any laws made by poc that devalue the white community ????

Right! Make it make sense. 

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5 hours ago, 135pipe said:

Racism is about power and in America power is not in the hands on poc. That's why institutional racism is a thing. Don't try to bring up the reverse racism nonsense because that's been proven to be non-existent. Poc can be prejudice, ignorant, but they can't gain nor devalue a group that has the power, and control to establish policies fueling their racist viewpoints. That's why there are so many laws that target poc. Do you see any laws made by poc that devalue the white community ???? If you truly are a poc you truly should know better, because even white individuals themselves know about the racism and hatred within their own communities and call it out. Yet you an alleged poc think otherwise LOL okay go off then.

Wow. You have a low opinion as to what POC can do. Racism is racism and you are ripe with it. Move along. Go cry in your oppression space. 

5 hours ago, Cardiac nurse11003 said:

SO again let us unpack this. Firstly I was very direct in saying "non person of color," so if you want to attach "white people" to my connotations well if the shoe fits!! Now that is not to say that people in general can be discriminatory, anyone can. But again you're mixing apples and oranges. because you obviously aren't a POC because if you were you'd at least know what  

 

 People of color BY DEFINITION CAN NOT BE RACIST. I REPEAT PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT BE RACIST. 

You see the issue a lot of non people of color like your self think that when POC say someone is being racist its based on "just words and name calling." An FYI not all White people are Racist but all white people benefit from its fallout and privilege. Let's stay on topic because I'm tired of POC voices being drowned by nonsense. It's simple these allegations need to be investigated and if these experiences are validated then these nurses need to be held accountable its that simple. The question you should be asking are these things true? Why would this be tolerated in the workplace? Why did it take months for any action to be taken at all when multiple people have filed complaints?   

So instead of getting defensive maybe you should be asking direct questions related to the topic at hand instead of supporting people who diminish other experiences and call it "nothing."

Again it's racist. 

Yes they can!! See who commenting the hate crimes on Asians in NY? Now even embolden by this definition of racism change. 

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5 hours ago, 135pipe said:

Racism is about power and in America power is not in the hands on poc. That's why institutional racism is a thing. Don't try to bring up the reverse racism nonsense because that's been proven to be non-existent. Poc can be prejudice, ignorant, but they can't gain nor devalue a group that has the power, and control to establish policies fueling their racist viewpoints. That's why there are so many laws that target poc. Do you see any laws made by poc that devalue the white community ???? If you truly are a poc you truly should know better, because even white individuals themselves know about the racism and hatred within their own communities and call it out. Yet you an alleged poc think otherwise LOL okay go off then.

I think the way I choose. Not what some liberal oppression peddler thinks I should. We are not all the same you know! LOL. How racist to think that. 

On 12/6/2021 at 5:46 AM, lilRN16 said:

Thank you... I grow tired of people telling me what is or isn't racist. But don't let me ask someone to clearly enunciate, so I understand what is being said ~ I'm a bigger racist than David Duke. 

This is so exhausting and thank you for reiterating why working in NY sounds like a nightmare. Plus no mandated ratios... Sounds like hades

Yet you will tell me what's racist and what's now! Hmmmm?

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7 hours ago, Cardiac nurse11003 said:

SO again let us unpack this. Firstly I was very direct in saying "non person of color," so if you want to attach "white people" to my connotations well if the shoe fits!! Now that is not to say that people in general can be discriminatory, anyone can. But again you're mixing apples and oranges. because you obviously aren't a POC because if you were you'd at least know what  

 

 People of color BY DEFINITION CAN NOT BE RACIST. I REPEAT PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT BE RACIST. 

YES THEY CAN. YES THEY CAN. 

You see the issue a lot of non people of color like your self think that when POC say someone is being racist its based on "just words and name calling." An FYI not all White people are Racist but all white people benefit from its fallout and privilege. Let's stay on topic because I'm tired of POC voices being drowned. 

And yet you say this and drown out my voice. Go so far as to strip me from my color. All because you think that all POC think alike and are the same. If they don't then they aren't one of the "good colors". Sounds like a 1960 racist talking about POC who just sit quietly and obey". Those are the "good ones"?. The ones that all think alike? I have to wonder if the quality of care for your patients is dependent of their skin color? Cardiac nurse? Let me guess, you think high blood pressure is racist too!! Lmao

So instead of getting defensive maybe you should be asking direct questions related to the topic at hand instead of supporting people who diminish other experiences and call it "nothing."

Nope sorry. That article is full of some blatant racism but mostly emotion and feelings. Yes. Investigate all of it.. However no one will because they may find that some of the instances are actually not racist but would be too afraid to state as such for fear of  being called racist themselfs Or, like in these threads, not a "real POC"!.  How convenient!! 

You are probably a white person yourself. The type that think they are championing for POC but are actually incredibly racist themselves. The only thing worse than a blatant  racist is a unaware racist who thinks they are virtuous. 

 

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19 hours ago, Cardiac nurse11003 said:

People of color BY DEFINITION CAN NOT BE RACIST. I REPEAT PEOPLE OF COLOR CANNOT BE RACIST. 

So a Mexican-American calling an African-American the N word is not racist? Please. BTW, I am not White.

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6 hours ago, PacoUSA said:

So a Mexican-American calling an African-American the N word is not racist? Please. BTW, I am not White.

LOL they are also minorities and can't profit off hatred towards AA. FURTHERMORE they are just furthering the creation of hatred because who coined that time for blacks? Oh wait whites. That word just furthers white supremacy everytime it is used it is a reminder that balcks are inferior to the race that created the term aka the white oppressor. The Mexican American is just a vessel/tool. Yes the word and action was racist but they are a prejudice individual. Their community did not create that term nor did they profit from its harm. If you disagree that's your prerogative. 

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3 hours ago, 135pipe said:

LOL they are also minorities and can't profit off hatred towards AA. FURTHERMORE they are just furthering the creation of hatred because who coined that time for blacks? Oh wait whites. That word just furthers white supremacy everytime it is used it is a reminder that balcks are inferior to the race that created the term aka the white oppressor. The Mexican American is just a vessel/tool. Yes the word and action was racist but they are a prejudice individual. Their community did not create that term nor did they profit from its harm. If you disagree that's your prerogative. 

And who says the N word the most????

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6 hours ago, Cclm said:

And who says the N word the most????

As I would like to elaborate more it's not my place nor my job to provide further education on this. You seem content with the current level you are at and that's where I will leave you. Hopefully one day you gain a better understanding, if not the world will still continue to move on. We can redirect the conversation back to the article. 

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