I have heard many people say this, particularly instructors. It all has to do with the balancing act... Studying enough to do well, but not destroying ourselves in the process to get A's. I understand that Nursing students with C's are still nurses, and that the student who recieved the A wont necessarily be a "better nurse"... But doesnt it seem like they would be?
I am mainly asking this because at clinical, I sometimes feel stupid! And I know its mostly nerves... and inexperience, of course. I know I can (and will.... !) be a good nurse, but I am thinking of one girl inparticular who just seems to have it all together at clinical all the time.. Who gets the best grades in our class... Always knows the answers. Does this mean she will be a better nurse than I will? Sometimes, I feel inadequate. Not all the time. I know I am capable of being a nurse, but.... :imbar
So, I know that "nursing students with C's are still nurses"---But does that mean they will be mediocre compared to the A students?
Here is a simple fact. Book smarts do not translate to a quality nurse. Where knowledge is key and definitely very important, some of the straight A students in my current nursing class are truly the worst performers on the floor. You can take that to the bank.
Also, the education level of parents is a socio economic factor.
True, money isolated by itself is not a sole predictor of brain development, but usually those that earn more money, as you stated, have an education.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I was responding to this:
And there is a greater chance that a "gifted" person comes from a well off back ground, that is why IMHO it is so important a country has fair income distribution so a country dont end up with very poor and extremely rich that will not in even 10 life times be able to spend all that money.
Perhaps you could have been more clear in your delivery. When you start talking about redistribution of wealth, I'm obviously going to focus on income specifically in my reply.
Here is a simple fact. Book smarts do not translate to a quality nurse. Where knowledge is key and definitely very important, some of the straight A students in my current nursing class are truly the worst performers on the floor. You can take that to the bank.
Some of the c students in my class are/were also horrible in clinicals. I don't usually advertise the fact that I get A's because so many people will give 101 reasons as to why I get my grades. They'll say I'm just lucky or make comments about A students not being good in clinicals. I also sometimes make excuses because people will ask how I do it. Basically,some people are smarter, some people are better at skills, some people can do it all. The only problem I have is with the C students who barely pass med calculation tests after 3 trys....scary.
This is the craziest post I have ever read. It seems that all I get out of it is "'Oh I am an "A" student, blah, blah, blah." Alright already. After you learn all that theory in school which is a multitude of stuff, you will forget it once you're on the floor, unless you have a photographic memory or Asperheimers disease.
The stuff you do learn, is on the floor,and is the stuff you do a daily basis. Good news about your "A", but it is no indication that you will be a good nurse.
Been there done that and seen too many "A" students quit because of the stress, whereas a "B" or "C" students have the grit to withstand the onslaught.
Grades are a miniscule part of nursing. Once you pass the NCLEX, you're good to go.
Now, can we please go on to more pressing issues?
I like you oakbourne but you are wrong. We tend to do better than the average.
Here is a simple fact. Book smarts do not translate to a quality nurse. Where knowledge is key and definitely very important, some of the straight A students in my current nursing class are truly the worst performers on the floor. You can take that to the bank.
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Here is a simple fact. Book smarts do not translate to a quality nurse. Where knowledge is key and definitely very important, some of the straight A students in my current nursing class are truly the worst performers on the floor. You can take that to the bank.
While book smarts do not necessarily translate to a quality nurse, a lack of book smarts most assuredly never translates to a quality nurse.
what interesting responses. One student who thinks he knows everything once he studies it. One person believes that forced redistribution of wealth, ie socialism will make the learning process fair.
Life is not fair, it was not meant to be, some people are smarter than others, some do better in clinicals than others, and some suck at both and some do great at both.
All I say, do the absolute best that you can, get the best grades that you can, get the best clinical experience that you can get. I think that nursing schools do a good job weeding about undesirable nursing students through both academic and clinical standards.
Yes, Nursing students with "C's" are still Nurses, and I am sorry but I do not feel that an "A" student makes any better of a Nurse then a "C" student. I personally am not an "A" student. When it comes to taking the test, I totally loose it!! Now if I were to sit and talk to you about a subject, I know it, but I have major test anxiety!
Any one can memorize a book and get through the class with an "A". That by no means will make them a good Nurse. Do they understand the info they are memorizing, do they have a good bedside manner? There is so much more to being a good Nurse then your grades. Do not EVER feel that you are going to be any less of a Nurse due to your grades.
Let me give you an example......The doctor's office I used to work in had alot of Residents come through in the process of their education. We had one Resident in particular that could tell you anything about anything! She was so knowledgeable it was scary! But, when it came to dealing with Patients, well, she was awful! None of the patients liked her at all, and soon the doctors began to get complaints about her. Don't get me wrong, she was a great doctor who was very knowledgeable about her specialty, she just had no knowledge on dealing with patients. So while she knew it all, she wasn't a good doctor. (she eventually went into research and she is loving it!)
We had one Resident in particular that could tell you anything about anything! She was so knowledgeable it was scary! But, when it came to dealing with Patients, well, she was awful! None of the patients liked her at all, and soon the doctors began to get complaints about her. Don't get me wrong, she was a great doctor who was very knowledgeable about her specialty, she just had no knowledge on dealing with patients. So while she knew it all, she wasn't a good doctor. (she eventually went into research and she is loving it!)
You just said she was a great doctor and then that she wasn't that good of a doctor.
I think what you are getting at is that she was a great doctor with bad social skills.
But that takes us right back to the beginning.
Do we all want a nice bedside nurse or doctor? Sure...
Do we care if our nurse is nice when we are in the ER dying? Do you just want a competent nurse or do you want an excellent nurse???
Any one can memorize a book and get through the class with an "A". That by no means will make them a good Nurse.
Really? Then why are you not an "A" student, if anyone can do it?
As for the story of the knowledgeable doctor with bad social skills, it seems like thats the argument I hear over and over again from B and C students. Its almost as if this is the one thing that nursing students can tell themselves to excuse the fact that others are earning higher grades [other than saying A students have no other responsibilities]. What we're usually looking at is academic knowledge versus a compassionate nature/good people skills. When it comes down to it, you can have poor bedside manner and still be a very good, if unpopular doctor. However, you can be the most caring and compassionate person on earth, but if you don't have the knowledge to back it up, you're not going to be a very good [or safe] nurse. Clearly one of these things is more important than the other.
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Socio economic factors are more than just income.
Another interesting link: http://www.earlylearning.ubc.ca/mapping/mapping_sef.htm
Also, the education level of parents is a socio economic factor.
True, money isolated by itself is not a sole predictor of brain development, but usually those that earn more money, as you stated, have an education.