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What do these things mean when it comes to nursing care plans
Common related factors-
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Common Expected Outcome-
NOC outcomes and NIC Interventions-
Ongoing assessment actions/ interventions and rationales-
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Very true I know not just nurses go by care plans I know cnas pt, respiratory therapist, occupational therapist, speech therapist all go by the plan of care. One thing can nurses write orders for anything. For example can a nurse write an order for Tylenol a patient who is in pain but the doctor has to sign it.
no...nurses can't write orders for anything ....they MUST call the doctor and get the orders....then they write the order in the chart. The MD signs it IF he agrees with what was written.
One more question. what are nurses expect to teach patients. If someone is getting discharged isn't there always a teaching plan you have to do. what do you have to teach them. Or educate. Do nurses have implement a stress reduction program or a weight reduction program.
no you refer them to the dietician and the social worker. We teach them many things based on their diagnosis and their needs for home.....which varies with every patient.
These things are based ON THE PATIENT. Without the patient there is nothing to teach
no...nurses can't write orders for anything ....they MUST call the doctor and get the orders....then they write the order in the chart. The MD signs it IF he agrees with what was written.
OP I recommend getting off this thread and stepping back from your books and actually talking to someone in person about what nurses do. Shadow a nurse. Meet professors of nursing.
Nurses don't write orders and get doctors to sign them. We get orders or request orders that may or may not be approved. If they are valid and appropriate for that patient, we carry them out. If the order is not appropriate for some reason we discuss our reasoning with the doctor and see what they think.
OP I recommend getting off this thread and stepping back from your books and actually talking to someone in person about what nurses do. Shadow a nurse. Meet professors of nursing.Nurses don't write orders and get doctors to sign them. We get orders or request orders that may or may not be approved. If they are valid and appropriate for that patient, we carry them out. If the order is not appropriate for some reason we discuss our reasoning with the doctor and see what they think.
Well, beg to differ: there are such things as medical plans of care and medical prescriptions to implement/ delegate to someone to carry them out, and there are such things as nursing plans of care and nursing prescriptions to implement/delegate to someone to carry them out. But I agree with many of the above people:
OP, go somewhere else. This is not helping you. As a matter of fact, your obsessive pursuit of nursing as you perceive it will rise up to bite you in the butt when you get into an actual nursing program. Really. You will sound like a know-it-all, but you really won't be. YOur classmates will resent it and your faculty will have to work to make you relearn things you got wrong, and will not be pleased about it. You will not shine like a star; you will annoy the heck out of people, and you do not want to get off on that foot.
There is more to it than you think, than you are reading, and certainly than you are thinking. The place to learn that is in a good program. Study the hard sciences, like anatomy, chemistry, physiology, and math. Having those comfortably under your scalp will pay off a great deal more than all the rest of this.
Well, beg to differ: there are such things as medical plans of care and medical prescriptions to implement/ delegate to someone to carry them out, and there are such things as nursing plans of care and nursing prescriptions to implement/delegate to someone to carry them out. But I agree with many of the above people:
OP, go somewhere else. This is not helping you. As a matter of fact, your obsessive pursuit of nursing as you perceive it will rise up to bite you in the butt when you get into an actual nursing program. Really. You will sound like a know-it-all, but you really won't be. YOur classmates will resent it and your faculty will have to work to make you relearn things you got wrong, and will not be pleased about it. You will not shine like a star; you will annoy the heck out of people, and you do not want to get off on that foot.
There is more to it than you think, than you are reading, and certainly than you are thinking. The place to learn that is in a good program. Study the hard sciences, like anatomy, chemistry, physiology, and math. Having those comfortably under your scalp will pay off a great deal more than all the rest of this.
Yeah I meant medical orders (like meds). I should've clarified.
The reason I got these books is to get a good foundation at one I am going to be learning. So will not be clueless and what information I have to learn. I know nursing school is very fast paced and I hear is not rare to have maybe like 4-5 chapters read for the next class. On top of that you have test and quizzes plus home work to do to get done. I hear it often gets overwhelming. I was just trying to gain some knowledge about this stuff like teaching me clinical skills, learning lab values and so on. I do admit I guess I am getting a little too far ahead of myself. But I will try to leave care plans alone though.
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You are going to drive yourself insane. You are essentially trying to teach yourself nursing curriculum. It doesn't work that way. You are just scratching the surface with your questions here. There is a reason schools require pre-req's. They lay the foundational knowledge you need to understand what comes next. You are doing yourself a disservice by jumping so far ahead. You also aren't listening to the feedback others are trying to give you. There are no shortcuts. You have to go through the whole program just like everyone else, one step at a time. Your time would be much better spent registering for the classes you need NOW and diving into those.