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I am fairly new to being a CNA, so maybe this is just ''the way it is" , and I am being a wimp, but I have some questions regarding a skilled nursing facility. Please allow me to rant along. :)

First of all this facility has two aides to 30 residents. To meet regulations, they count the charge nurse, the medication aide ( who is not allowed anymore to act as a CNA), the social activities director ( who is a CNA ) and the DON...none of whom will ever, not even during a state inspection, be seen on the floor. The 2:30 ratio is for days and evenings. On nights there is only one CNA, and the charge nurse. Is this safe? I know its certainly a problem when 15 of the residents are fully dependent on aides for transfers. They need constant supervision and/or assistance. 5 residents have severe mental handicaps and behavior issues, so aides are constantly needed to prevent them from injuring themselves or other residents.

Every other day, one of the day aides is sent to transport a resident to an appointment. One day, one of the CNA's was asked to drive a combative resident 150 miles to a clinic where they had to have test. Is this right?

This facility has one sling-lift. At some time in the past it was used improperly and injured a resident. No one is allowed to use it now. All lifts and transfers are done manually. Nine of the fifteen dependent residents weigh at least 200 pounds. One weighs close to 400! The rest of them would greatly benefit from a stand-lift, to prevent injured shoulders and wrists. ( not to mention prevent many of those falls when an aide is over balanced by an unsteady resident.

Then there is the shortage of supplies. The diapers are locked up, and doled out daily. If you use more than you need, the nurses are angry, or tell you to ' beg, borrow, and steal' until more are 'found'. Many of the aides are buying hteir own to make up for shortages when not enough supplies were ordered. For instance, once they ordered five boxes of diapers in size small,

( which no one wears...) but ordered ten cases of straws and and a hundred catheter bags...when no catheters are used in the facility! Then told the aides that they went over budget and to make the diapers last a month.

The beds all sit at knee level and cannot be raised, making it impossible to follow good body mechanics.

The pads, drawsheets and linens are in short supply, yet on a surprise inspection one day, the Administrator stripped the beds and told us never to use a stained, torn, frayed or worn sheet--but to throw them away immediately. ( No replacements were ordered though.)

Aides are expected to clear the tables, mop up the dining area, do the laundry, completely scour the shower rooms, run errands, organize and oversee social activities if the activities director decides to leave early, organize closets, dust, clean toilets, water and prune houseplants, etc. Whatever task that might come up. On one amazing day when everyone was actually toileted, changed, and put to bed on time, and the aides had five minutes before they had to start showers---the charge nurse jumped them, and said that if they had that much time surely there was a toilet somewhere that needed cleaning. On good days aides are more than willing to deep clean, but on bad days the residents need us more than the toilets do. ( today at lunch we had to get thrity residents up, changed, dressed, and at the table for tray pass...in 45 minutes, and the charge nurse came down and told us someone important was coming in twenty minutes, so make sure the halls were spotless before lunch!)

The personal bath supplies are locked in a closet that only the nurse can access. The facility supplies are padlocked into a cabinet in the bathroom which no one can access. Someone locked it months ago, and no one has found the key or cut the lock--therefore, one bottle of body wash is getting shared. A big no-no.

There is tons more...but these are the biggest problems. Am I right to be thinking of changing jobs? Or should I suck it in and grow up? Oh...and did I mention the recent cockroach infestation? Or the fact that they can't afford a shower chair that rolls, ( we have to drag the old one, because the wheels are so corroded they've permanently locked) but the floors were redone, the walls painted, and new wallpaper ordered this week?

Specializes in ALF/SNF.

If state walked in there, at any given moment.... Just remember it's YOUR license that's on the line. You have to protect yourself. You don't want to lose that license. Something you worked hard for. Run as fast as you can, and call state yourself!!!!

Specializes in CNA.
YIKES!

Run ASAP

You coud get hurt working like that or someone else will get hurt and it sounds like the staff will be blamed

What are the nurses doing

I started counting last night, and of the seven staff members who have worked there over a year, five of them have been injured to the point of having a permanent limp. It is a no restraint facility so one of the mentally disabled residents broke one of the nurse's backs. The other nurse has a permanent back injury and a limp acquired on the job, and the three aides in that group have all limp and have 'minor' problems with tendinitis, carpal tunnel, old fractures, etc. all from work. So yeah, injuries are common, and serious.

What do the nurses do? Umm...they give finger sticks and insulin, and do basic wound care. ( not the heavy stuff, the residents are sent out for that.) They feed the one resident who has a feeding tube. Do paperwork. Help pass trays and feed. Some nurses will answer call lights, but usually they just call one of us over the intercom hysterically to tell us Ms. So-and-So in room Blah Blah needs her washcloth dampened, when we are in the middle of cleaning up a combative two-hundred pound man who can't stand.

Specializes in CNA.
If state walked in there, at any given moment.... Just remember it's YOUR license that's on the line. You have to protect yourself. You don't want to lose that license. Something you worked hard for. Run as fast as you can, and call state yourself!!!!

That is what really scares me. I want to be a CNM someday.I don't need a bad incident on my record. Some of the other girls are practically married to the facility and will bend over backwards to make the place look good when and inspection comes. I just can't get into the spirit of that sort of thinking.

Specializes in Hospice, Adult Med/Surg.
That is what really scares me. I want to be a CNM someday.I don't need a bad incident on my record. Some of the other girls are practically married to the facility and will bend over backwards to make the place look good when and inspection comes. I just can't get into the spirit of that sort of thinking.

You sound like you have a lot of common sense and wisdom. Ideally, you could try to bring change to that place, but in the real world, it will probably end up dragging you down with it instead of the other way around, as legislation for this kind of thing always seems to be low priority and take forever.

You sound like a good, caring caregiver with a bright future. You do not need your back broken, literally or figuratively. I hope that you can get the heck out of that place and find something much, much better.

Good luck!

Specializes in PCU, peds, geriatrics, home health, LTC.

I feel ya. It is sad (and really just criminal) that LTC facilites seem to have this problem in every state. Lack of staffing. Counting the DONs as "on staff" persons. No offense to those DONs and ADONs who do get in the thick of things, but no, the ones I worked under did not get on the floor. Of course, being "in the thick of it" involves being the one to do paperwork (and act as an administrator, not as an RN, LPN, or CNA), but that is why admin should NOT BE INCLUDED in the staff count, because NO, they are not the ones on the floor. Again, if you are a DON/ADON and you do get on the floor, bless you, but please know you are the exception.

I'd say get out as soon as you can and THEN tell state. I, too, care about the elderly, but I'm not one to let that put my license at risk, which I felt I was doing every time I went to work. I also felt trying to let the higher-ups know about staffing issues was a moot point. They already know, and I'm sure many of them would love to be able to hire more staff but a lot of the time it isn't up to them. I don't know how it is where you work (though it sounds scary), but at the LTC I was at staff were definitely thrown to the wolves with little training and thrown under the bus when it came to any legal matters (and I don't mean a case of "Yes, that staff member clearly violated a patient's right"), I mean ANYTHING HAPPENED and that staff member was on their own. Excuse my rant, you can tell I had a bad experience with LTC. :icon_roll It still just floors me hearing about this ongoing problem.

Specializes in med-surg 5 years geriatrics 12 years.

Run Run, Run !!! Transporting a resident is a big liablity no-no. And it's outright dangerous. I did work in one LTC that sounds like the one you're at and at first I stayed thinking the residents would get the best I could give on my 8 hrs. I finally realized that the place would never change as long as people like me enabled them. Good luck !

Specializes in CNA.

Thanks everyone for the helpful responses. I've decided to find another place to work. So, what is the best way to quit? Call in? Walk in? Disappear from the face of the earth? ( sorry, dumb question, but its my first job.)

Do not just disappear, you have to give notice otherwise you will ruin your resume, and possibly put your license in jeopardy.

Specializes in CNA.

Okay. Thanks. SO how long is a notice for? Or does that simply mean telling my boss that I quit?

ETA: Also, I already cut back to working two days a week so that I could go to school. Don't know if part time employees have different requirements?

Generally the best way to quit is to put it in writing and present it to your manager with at least/about 2 weeks notice. Just walking out/not showing up is not only going to look bad if you need this place as a reference, it is leaving your coworkers (even if you don't like them) even MORE shortstaffed and is unsafe for the residents. If I am somewhere for a long time and things are good I like to give longer (like 3 weeks or a month) but 2 weeks is pretty much standard. I would keep a copy of the notice you give your workplace in case of any problems down the road, and keep it simple. You don't want to say too much or badmouth the place because it can always come back to bite you. Ma

Check out this link for simple samples :)

http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/resumesandletters/tp/Resignation-Letters.htm

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses. I've decided to find another place to work. So, what is the best way to quit? Call in? Walk in? Disappear from the face of the earth? ( sorry, dumb question, but its my first job.)

Give notice. Usually, even if it's a job I hate I give notice and I do not make it known as I exit that the place is unsafe and horrible in any way you can think of. Only because it likely won't do anything to change the current situation-- and I've found that even the worst administrators take it personally and will get offended. You put in 5 months at the place, hopefully you will be able to use them as a reference. If you decide to report them later on, you are hopefully removed from the equation and it is between the State and the facility. Best wishes to you in your job hunt. :up:

Specializes in CNA.

Thanks to everyone for their response to this post. I managed to extricate myself from that job gracefully without having to work another day there..., and did it without having to name any names or incidents. And, since then I've received my long-awaited acceptance letter to the LPN program. Next time they see me, I'll be the boss. Haha. :lol2:

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