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I tried to answer U World questions during the program ....but honestly I just didn’t have time( and I was in the generic program). If I wasn’t reading /taking notes from one of the many chapters that was assigned then I was either watching registered nurse RN, simple nursing or Lecturio to complete my understanding.

Hey BKnursing, unfortunately you really don't know what your schedule will be like until about two (maybe three if lucky) weeks before you start your semester. I tried to weave in some work during the week but I consistently fell behind with my coursework and finally ended up only working every Saturday. This was a HUGE financial blow, but I felt it was necessary to stay afloat in this rigorous program. A classmate of mine who chose to work one/two days during the work week sadly failed one of the courses and had to wait another school year to take the course over again. Schedules vary, but I'll say for me I generally had class on Monday, Tuesday clinical (all day), Wednesday afternoon class, Thursday class and Friday-Sunday off (Studying big time). The clinicals are scheduled from 7am-7pm, but honesty most clinical professors will let you go around 4-5pm. Wish you the best, if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.

If you can take HIN 269 this Summer I STRONGLY recommend it. The first semester is so demanding and believe me you’ll really appreciate that Winter break to get some much needed R & R rather than taking that class. In my class everyone regretted not having taken it over the Summer.

I’m not sure how many students have backed out of the program. I do know that @ ten ppl didn’t make it past the first semester. The dosage test is a fill-in, not multiple choice. As far as the schedule for next semesters clinical I believe it’s still up in the air. Sorry..I wish I had more info to share with you.

Good morning Bri143- the dosage calculation test isn't difficult at all and it's not timed. It's just that when you know that your admittance into the program all hinges on this one 20 question test...mistakes can easily be made. So...just take you time...go over the answers...know basic conversions (e.g. 1 fluid ounce = 30mL is a must know conversion). Math isn't my forte - but just know that the professor will infuse dosage calculation questions at you throughout your first year....especially Medsurg. Out of a 50/55 question exam you'll typically see 5 dosage calculation questions...and believe me..as the semester goes on the level of difficulty increases...but that is to be expected. Regarding hairstyle, I know many of my female classmates didn't do anything special with their hair during lecture...they just let it fall. In clinical however ( as you mentioned you have to tie the hair up).Regarding your question about the HESI score- honestly I have no idea. I do know that the nursing department is very generous in opening their doors to as many students as possible to give them the chance to pursue their nursing ambitions. Once you are in the program, they set the bar rather high so you really need to take the studying seriously and set up a routine of studying. My typical study schedule would be going to bed @9pm...gettin up @3:30am and study for 4-ish hours before class..return from school and study for another 4/5 hours...eat dinner and do it all over again. It was an insane schedule and of course everyone works differently. Most of my classmates elected to stay up late (till like 1:30 or 2am most nights studying but either way...you're going to put some time into studying.

In response to Chickenwings questions: Hello, I have a few questions. If you don’t mind would you share your prerequisites GPA and your HESI score? I messed up and got a C in organic chem and now my science GPA is 3.51 so my chances of getting in are really slim but Im still being hopeful. What’s the scheduling like? I think In a past thread somebody said they break up the batch into two groups, one that takes classes in the morning and the other in the afternoon and selection for a group is random? How many days are lectures, lab and clinical? Also, congratulations on completing your first year of nursing school!! My overall GPA was around a 3.58 but my Science prerequisite GPA was 4.0. I actually have another bachelors degree from waaaaay back in 1995. At that time I wasn't taking school seriously so I ended up with a GPA of 3.27..but...when combined with the 4.0 it came out to (thankfully) a much better GPA. My critical thinking was 820 and my overall HESI was 86%. Yea..I hear you regarding Organic Chemistry...that was one tough class for me. I took it at Hunter College and It was soooo hard. When you get into Nursing school you'll find that two courses...no make that three courses that are on par with ORGO- Fundamentals, Medsurg, and Pharmacology. As you mentioned, you really have no say in your class schedule. For clinicals ...yes they do break you up into an "A" or "B" group and you will likely see many of your clinical classmates in a basic (smaller) class such as NUR 300. For Fundamentals, Medsurg and Pharm you'll all be together as one big group. For the Fall semester I had lecture class three days of the week and then Clinical one day (which is from 7am-7pm...thought the instructor will likely let you go a bit earlier). So....stay positive...I hope you see you in the halls at Lehman Chickenwings. In response to Angelsangels: This is highly I appreciated. I wanted to know what some of our expenses would be before starting nursing school? Like the list of things such as drug test, stethoscope maybe. If you could provide would be amazing to start saving money. Oh...boy...well the Nursing department sends you a pamphlet with everything that you'll need to get started for the Fall semester. The pamphlet they sent is buried somewhere is my office. Now that I have some time to breath I'm going to start getting organized. Everything sort of snowballs once school begins. I just ordered a stethoscope from Amazon (Littman class 3) as well as for the other smaller items like the eye pen. Honestly the bulk of the expenses come from the books. The department will ask you to purchase (or rent) all these books for the courses and honestly for the most part you won't need them....especially for NUR 300. Unless you'd like a hard copy many of the books are available ( and are generously shared) among classmates. I have most of the Ebooks from the whole first year (via Google doc) that I'd be happy to share with you to save you $$$. The only hangup would be of course if they used a different textbook. Your uniform can be ordered online and can get at a reasonable price. The drug tests are a pain in the ##$#&!! but they are a requirement. I cannot recall the exact price but it was less than 100.00. I would recommend to just start putting away what ever you can as far as saving for school. With this whole Covid drama..they may even require a mandatory Covid test as well. In response to Kil Park: I should read again to refresh but I know how much I closely study it. if I do not know A&P details, is it hard to follow the program? How is the drug dosage test? what kind of questions? if you can give me an example? How do you study nursing, should I have to memorize the whole book? how the exam styles? writing mostly or multiple choices or research paper? do I really need a group study? if I don't, is really affect my study ? in the pandemic, we should avoid gatherings English is a second language for me, so I may put my time or efforts twice or three times more than students who speak mother languages. When you have spare time, please thanks and be safe So basic A and P knowledge is fundamental ...a real stepping stone from which many of the course draw upon...especially NUR 301 (fundamentals) and NUR 303 (Medsurg) so I would strongly recommend getting very familiar with the different systems of the body...especially cardiovascular, respiratory, and musculoskeletal. I attached a copy of the dosage calculation tutorial sheet that was provided to us by -----------------...our Medsurg professor. If you how to do the examples you'll be fine. Be forewarned...you're allowed to miss one out of twenty questions. Which is what happened in my case as I made a foolish adding error having rushed through the questions. There were at least 5 ppl during orientation( two of which were good friends of mine) who missed more than one and right at that moment when they got the tests back they knew they weren't going to be in the program...heartbreaking! As far as studying...ugh...well what you definitely should NOT do is study in depth taking long drawn out notes. This was the mistake I made...cause I'm very old school and that was the way we did it back during my undergrad years at Niagara U in the early 90's. But...really what is important is understanding the concepts from each chapter and make notes on those. You'll also get a lot of benefit from the information that you'll be sharing via what's app among your classmates...that's is really the life saver right there! The exams for NUR 300 are fairly easy but...there's a ton of writing assignments...lots of reflection papers, concept papers etc. For Fundamentals, Medsurg and Pharm honestly the tests quite difficult. Again...your really need to know conceptually the information and have a keen sense of critical thinking skills...which takes some time to develop. You will be required to do a fair amount of writing for your clinicals as well....EG...process recording, Shadow Health and care plans. These are very time consuming. My only suggestion is to get them done ASAP and do not wait till just before the due date. There were some classmates who were able to finish most of these assignment with the first two weeks of the courses. I tried but I had to work and I simply had no time. But, this was a great idea and just when everyone else was sweating during test times trying to figure out how to complete all these writing assignment AND study 10-15 chapters for a test in four days (each chapter 20-30 pages) these ppl didn't stress at all and were able to put all their energy into studying for the exams. And, it's no surprise that these were that same students who did exteremely well in their classes. So...lesson to be had...get all those writing and online assignment done ASAP. Now, regarding a "study group"-from day one I was never a study group person myself so I never really formed a group with anyone. But...what is ESSENTIAL...like I mentioned above is forming some sort of What's App group or perhaps a few online groups. There will be MANY TIMES when you'll be so desperate for material and help and it truly is a life saver when your classmates can readily share whatever information they may have to help you survive. As the saying goes....it takes a village! Hope all this helps! SLM.Dosage Calculation_MT.7_2018.pdf

I wish you all the best as you inch your way closer to entering Lehman's nursing program. I am currently a student and we all just finished our finals this past Friday. I remember last year at this time I had many of the same concerns/questions that you all have. Even though Covid certainly wasn't on the radar in the Spring of 2019 I can somewhat understand the stress levels that you're all experiencing. If you have any questions feel free to ask me. The one great quality about the nursing students in general is that they (for the most part) truly care about their classmates and will generously share and provide any pertinent material necessary to survive the program. So...my door is always open for assistance.

Well...I’m in the generic program am I’ll be honest with you pretty much every weekend is spent studying ( like 12-14 per day) I can’t even imagine how people in the accelerated program can get away with working on the weekends. Having said that, there are classmates of mine who do work ONE weekend day ( not both ) but only because their job allows them to study while being on the clock. My job doesn’t allow this.

Hello Kil park, I had Claudette Gordon for HIN 300 last semester I honestly couldn't believe how difficult her exams were. She told us from day one that most of us will get a "C" for her course....and in the end...she was right. She is an incredibly knowledgeable and seasoned teacher who LOVES to share these interesting stories about her experiences in the field of nursing. But, when it comes to teaching the course work that we're expected to know...she really doesn't do anything....and I mean anything. I've heard from students who are currently taking 269 online from her right now and most of them got in the 50's for the midterm and who know what they'll get for the final. For our midterm and final as well, most students got in the 60's...some 70's...and very few in the 80's. I took HIN 269 last summer with Harcum and yes she was difficult but at least she teaches the material and if you show that your giving it your all then she does reward your efforts. So...honestly if I were you I'd hold off until the summer and get a different teacher....that "1" rating would be much lower if rate my professor allowed us to grade in the negatives. Good luck!

I second that suggestion. I too went to Hunter college to fulfill my last few prereq's. When it was time to apply I had a 3.9 GPA and a 141 on the NLN and I didn't get into the program. I was heart broken. I guess my NLN score wasn't high enough. So...I transferred over to Lehman and...a year later....I was accepted into Lehman. So...yes...even if you think you've got fantastic grades ( I thought I did) don't put all your hopes In Hunter...or any school for that matter. It's sooooo competitive!

Hey gang- I was just looking over all the documents we're required to submit the first day of orientation. Health Clearance Form=check CastleBranch Documents=check CPR=check .....Malpractice Liability Insurance= ???? This is the one I'm not sure about. On the "documents req for clinical placement & performance" sheet it's said that "all rn-bs AND NURSING STUDENTS" are required to submit this document. Hmmm....I'd rather not spend the $$$ if I don't have to. Any thoughts? Did I miss any other documents that are to be handed in next Wednesday? See y'all soon!

Hey gang, I'm really looking forward to meeting you all at Orientation in July! Speaking of Orientation, I believe we'll be taking a dosage calculation test. How are you all going to prepare for this test. Math has always been my nemesis and I'd like to prepare as much as possible. Thx!

Good morning FutureNurseInfo- I've been in the background following various threads on Lehman College for some time now and I couldn't help notice the numerous posts you've made(in the various threads) that align much with the situations/ questions that I'm currently facing regarding my Nursing pursuits. I have a previous degree (from waaaaaay back in 1995). I'm an older adult. I am looking for a way to balance my nursing pursuits with my need to draw in some sort of income ( I've got maintenance and a mortgage to take care of). I've finished all my science prereq's ( some at BMCC and the rest at Hunter College) . I applied to Hunter last Spring but I was denied admittance (even though I got straight A's in ALL my science prereq's !! I guess my NLN score wasn't good enough) So now I'm considering Lehman college's generic program. The nursing advisor at Lehman asked why I'm not considering applying to the accelerated program and I told her that I thought the Generic program might allow me the opportunity work ( at least part time) given that the curriculum moves at a slower pace compared to the accelerated. I was hoping just to get you feedback on this issue. I'm currently a fitness trainer living and working in NYC. Many of my clients (who are like family members to me at this point) I've had for over 18years and I work with them early mornings and some in the afternoon. As I mentioned, I was hoping the generic program would allow me some free time to work with these clients who have financially kept me afloat in NYC all these years...but....I'm afraid that much of the course load & clinical would be occurring at the same time I'd be working with these clients. So....now back to square one....how to possibly get a somewhat affordable nursing education in the NYC area that would allow me to stay financially stable training my clients during the mornings/early afternoons. Hmmmm....maybe I should just suck in up and go the accelerated root like what you're doing? I know you're incredibly busy but I'd REALLY APPRECIATE your feedback. Much thanks,Lee

Good morning Epavlov04- I couldn't help notice your post on Suny Downstate. I was actually looking at threads regarding Lehman College Nursing program as I'm intending to apply for the Fall semester 2019. I'm just curious....since you'll be taking your last science prereq at Lehman in the Spring of 2019 will you be applying to the Lehman College nursing program? I have finished all my prereq's myself but was going to apply to Lehman only...perhaps I should look into Suny Downstate as well? The reason I was only considering Lehman was because it seemed to be one of the more affordable ways to get my BFA in nursing. Down Suny Downstate offer a higher degree of Nursing education than Lehman? Thx, Lee

Thanks you two for those words of wisdom. I really appreciate it! More and more it's making better sense to just follow through with the Lehman pursuit rather than Hunter.