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I never asserted the fact that someone with more "alphabet soup" was better instantly than someone else, but it does make a difference. Being a nurse is not soley some inborn talent, but rather a combination of skill, hard work, and education. We, a...

Please explain then. You've stated additional education and licensure would not, in any way, make you a better nurse. The equivalent would be for me to say, "No I don't need any additional schooling or licensing because I'm already the best at what...

So you refuse to explain your idiotic and laughable, point that additional education and licensing does not make someone a better critical care nurse. This is hilarious because it's the argument held over and over again by LPN's - that they are just ...

I remember being right in the same place as you. Especially after hearing fellow classmates are landing great jobs (often times due to already working at the hospital or some relative is a manager). Do you have your ADN or BSN? - Many managers wil...

Nursing programs are hugely focused on new concept-based curriculum that teaches critical thinking, decision making, and actions. Sure critical thinking can come naturally to many people, but it is still a teachable concept and practice (or else why...

It all depends. What do you want to do? NP fields are wide and varied; whereas, CRNA roles are pretty set. Do you want to work in surgery from 5am - 4pm every day? There's so many paths with NP that it is an entire conversation in itself. Do you want...

You are absolutely correct. The sorry fact is the world of LPN's is shifting, and personally I feel sorry for the students at my city's local LPN school that are being lied to about job opportunities in high acuity settings like labor and delivery a...

You got this upset because you thought I called LPN's not nurses? Grow a spine.

What school would ever say this? Critical thinking education is a vital part of any nursing program's curriculum. Sure, you may learn great critical thinking through experience, but still can learn it through school as well.

I've already stated this comment of mine was taken incorrectly. I meant compassion and clinical skills does not make one a "nurse." I did not intend to insult other nurses. This is just desperation. My point was: we can argue about years of experi...

It's in the same vein as BSN vs ADN RN's. Yes they take the same test and are licensed the same, but more and more are ADN's being required to pursue higher levels of education for that profession. The same is true with NP's. A DNP is quickly being ...

I agree. Experience and education are vitally important. I've never stated experience is not needed. Tone down the aggressive, and insulting, tone. Doesn't matter. We can spend all day equating years of experience in different clinical settings com...

You are making my point clearer. Being a nurse is not about clinical skills. To be an effective Registered Nurse, one needs to have a higher degree of education (with the classes you mention) to match the growing field of healthcare.

I'm not sure what you are arguing here. We both agree experience is important, but I feel we differ on the importance of education requirements. All I'm saying is that I feel RN's should be mandated (and they are in most areas) to have a Bachelor ...

No. The post I was replying to asserted that extra school was pointless because it did not pertain to clinical skills. My point was: clinical skills do not make the nurse. So, we're on the same page. Here's where we disagree. You can argue the sc...

I never meant to imply someone would automatically be better with a higher education. I made a strong effort to say that it would help set up the better nurse in the long run. A nurse with a BSN will outperform an ADN/Diploma nurse in the long run ...

So the only criteria for a good nurse is years of experience, and level of education has zero impact?

So I don't get it. You were taking offense to the fact I said higher education enables someone to be a better nurse. Since you're going to become a NP, my question is why? Because to practice at the level of a nurse practitioner requires higher edu...

Why would you not tell someone you can do something better? If we got a critical burn patient into the ER and you said you can do burn patients better than me, please do. I don't take offense to that, and certainly not when lives are at stake.

I'd be more excited to learn your experiences. Given the EMT-I (I wasn't sure people even became intermediates any more) and the LVN status I can make a general opinion about you too.

Ok, so yes a bsn or msn will set you up to be a better nurse. Sorry. Your argument is flawed because of your archaic view on what nursing is. "(BSN degree) In areas that are not essential to patient outcome because they are not skill related." This ...

It's very simple. Experience is great and all, but it will never replace formal education of a bachelor or master degree level. The fact remains that the healthcare world is backing this ideal and requiring bsn nurses for the most part. I'm not sayi...

Actually, in the long run, it does. Having a higher degree of education certainly prepares someone to be a better healthcare professional than someone with say a diploma. The ever reaching scope of practice that RN's take on is evidence that higher...

I'm having a very hard time not thinking this is a huge joke.