sonotguilty

Spoke with a good attorney. Basically the game plan will be to wait and see if anything comes up. If it does, do all the testing, and We will fight them to the hilt and turn them into OSHA, Medicate, and EEOC. Hair follicle test will vindicate me if any charges are levied. Those go from 5 days to 3 months back.

No, I was accused on Friday, I had shaved my head Thursday. That's how the timeline went out. Again, just a lot of finger pointing at me, without much reading or attention to detail before hand. Exactly what I fear the board will do.

So if I'm reading this correctly your advice is don't deal with the board whatsoever because they will use anything they can against me and don't talk without a lawyer etc, but I should go ahead and tell the board myself?? Not seeing the logic in that.

what??? I said how much I took OF A MED I HAVE A PRESCRIPTION FOR! Nor did I say I took it all at once. The only rat here is the one you're creating in your own mind. This is exactly what I fear from the board, a whole lot of judgement with practically zero comprehension or sense.

Which could be the case here. But I seriously doubt they drug test the patient or their family members as that would cross a billion boundaries and paint them in an unfavorable position. But let's say they do, and either they have it or not, and they test me, I'm gonna be 100% clean I can already tell you. It falls back to heresay. My word against the others and there is no clear implication regardless. At least those are my thoughts. Right or wrong.

This is very true and I realize that. I do know the largest company of the type of field I work in also practices this method. So it's not isolated or unheard of, but you are very right.

I'm just wondering how the board will take this. And I'm smart enough to know the more eyes and brains on a problem, the more I can learn from others.

In the field I work in it is a VERY common practice. The patient is happier they get their meds faster, company saves on delivery charges. There are pharmacies that release meds to non clinical staff for the same purpose. Just because I picked them up does not mean diversion. On top of that, if it was so prevalent who monitored the triplicates? Who checked the pharmacy bill? Who monitors the orders versus the pharmacy bill? None of that was my responsibility and additionally was never brought up to me a single time as me being under any suspicion. Just really weird they get a fax from a new job and all of a sudden I'm public enemy #1. If they come after me I will file a retaliation suit with the EEOC after my tests come back negative, which they will. I repeat, I was never once tested, suspended, fired, or anything. Nothing in my personelle file, nothing with my signature on it. As a matter of fact, I even went on a cruise for a week FULLY PAID the week after they say this occurred.

I agree the burden of proof is on them. Completely. And they have zero proof. And as far as chain of custody, there was no policy against picking them up for the patients, the office manager KNEW I did it. Never said a thing. I was never once told to stop or reprimanded. And I always documented patients had the meds in question with them or on them. And yes Double-Helix I had an old employer who got upset that patients went with me to the new place of their own free will and was threatening me with a lawyer. Nothing ever came of it actually. It was not a diversion case, nor were any drug allegations involved. So you can stop that right there. I am a VERY good nurse and I take care of my patients to the level of which I have built a large network of refferals and admits just based off the level of care I provide. I don't care if I am not on call and my patient calls me at 4am with a problem. You call me, you get me. Patient care is what I live for, taking care of others is what I love. Yeah, the paychecks good, but frankly, I made much more money in the oilfields. I didn't bust my butt and maintain a 3.8 GPA in a program where an A was 93 and above just to throw it away. The question I am basically asking, which has yet to be answered, is what would the board DO in this type of situation? You accuse me almost from a month prior, never test me, never fire me, never suspend me, never........anything. No statement from me. Absolutely nothing. But all of a sudden I can stay there and it wont get thrown to the board if I take a huge paycut and report to a Peer program......um.....no

Which is fine if they check.

I don't know what he promised or coerced anyone into doing. Regardless it's heresay, and no, I have a script from less than a year ago so I am okay, you are reading way too much into that. I wasn't even accused of taking any hydrocodone regardless. The med he mentioned, which I am purposely omitting to keep a vague appearance is absolutely not in my system, nor will it show up on any hair or urine tests. I'm 100% legit.

I didn't abruptly quit, my notice gave Sunday as my last day, he just called and accused me of all this yesterday. As a matter of fact I even went and turned my scrubs and badge in and they didn't say anything at all. if I were running and hiding I wouldn't have shown my face. They found out I was going to a new job (they faxed them for reference) and again, had I done wrong I dang sure wouldn't have mentioned them to any employers. that was a recurring theme of the call, he kept saying "so you're going to XXXX?"

it does, but I always lop all my hair off during the summertime, (just shaved on Thursday actually) but no, there is nothing in my system outside some old hydrocodone that I had an Rx for. And even that use was just 20mg on Thursday for tooth pain. So I'm covered. I didn't do any of this.

So what do you think the board would do if they turned me in 3 weeks after the fact but have no drug test, no suspension, no write up, and no statement from me? Would they just dismiss it likely or come after me guns a blazing?

I guess I am afraid the board will not look at the fact that they never tested me, suspended me, fired me, had me write a statement, anything at all whatsoever. The owner swears he has people in the office who will say I confessed (and I didn't) and patients who will say they never got meds, although both of the main caretakers of those patients he mentioned are a bit scatterbrained and with bad memories themselves that other nurses can verify

That I guess I was picking them up from the pharmacy and taking them myself. But, I mean, the doctor signs the triplicates, they get the pharmacy bills, all these things, im not even the only nurse with them. So if I was taking them for myself since November as they say there would have been SOMEONE to check up on it. And yes, they pretty much blackmailed me.

Hello? This thing on?

So to start this off, I am innocent. However I have dealt with the BON before and I know they lack all practicality and sense. (Was another seperate issue that was dismissed without prejudice). So anyway, I left a job today. Turned in my resignation, turned my scrubs and badge back in, everything. They found out I'm applying elsewhere, so I get a call from the owner telling me he knows I took meds from the pharmacy for myself and that if I turn myself into TPAPN and accept $25,000 less per year he won't turn me into the board. I was floored to say the least. I said yes I had picked them up but had never taken anything, and there was no policy against picking them up, nor have I ever been reprimanded or punished at all. He says this happened a few weeks ago, yet I was never told of this, never suspended, never fired, and never drug tested a single bit. I mean they did nothing. Not a single thing, and I haven't signed or submitted anything. It's just after they found out I was going elsewhere he said all this. I sent them a normal resignation. What at do you think the board will do? I would hope they would ask what proof they have and why didn't I get tested or suspended or anything. I mean I got my full paycheck today as a matter of fact, I even went on a weeks vacation (paid) after they say this supposedly happened. Im Just terrified and wanna know what to expect. I KNOW to lawyer up if they turn it into the board.

I am a hospice nurse. I am changing companies, often patients will accompany the nurse to the new company as they enjoy that nurse and the care they get from them. When I first hired on to this company they in fact encouraged me to have patients come over if they wanted to, and that it would be no problem. They fully acknowledged that patients will follow their nurses and assured me it would be okay if any followed me there. Now that I am leaving they are stating that if a single patient transfers or leaves he will sue me personally. There are patients that want to come with me, it is their choice. I have not offered them any incentives, bonuses, money, or anything at all. Just that they would remain my patient. I did not sign a non compete clause, but this guy is being very threatening. I told him he could sue me if he wanted, but anyone that leaves is going of their own free will. All that has occured is I told them I am leaving, they asked where to, I told them, and they asked for the number to the new place, that is it. I also told him I have no money, no properties, nothing he can attach a lein onto from a judgment, and you cant garnish wages in this state. (I recently got divorced, thats why I have nothing). I did have some patients come with me, but they signed a statement when they did come over that this was of their own free will and choice. Anyway, there has been no coercion on my end, however when I was at a patients house I saw the company call and attempt to talk a patient into staying and telling the patient I was no longer with the company. I also had them calling telling the patients I was leaving before I left, some of the calls they made were to patients I had no intention of telling I was leaving, so when I would see them they would ask me where I was going and if they could come with me. Also, just yesterday they called my current employer and told them that I had been soliciting patients and they had a patient that was ready to sign an affidavit that I had called them asking them to come with me. This absolutely did NOT happen. So their lawyer called and said they aren't sure if they want to sue me, or sue my new company over this. Problem is, this absolutely did NOT happen or occur in any form or fashion. I never called a single patient asking them to come with me. I didn't ask any to come with me. They wanted to. I even told them that my old company was a good place and they would be served well there. So what are my options? I don't even know what I could be sued for. Just had the lawyer call me and tell me that I was soliciting employees to come to the new place of business I am going to. Which I absolutely have not, even then im not sure what they could actually sue me for seeing as how my state is a right to work state. How do I get them to stop harassing me? I've not done anything out of the bounds of the law, or nothing they hadn't encouraged me to do when I signed on, which I could have several other nurses come forward and swear he told them the same thing too.