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  1. shaggy77

    New Grad Interview was strange...advice please.

    Hi, Yes I have checked my own area. We have quite a few hospitals around here, but we are absolutely saturated with new grads. I'm in the Tampa Bay area. We have USF, three community colleges and at least a half-dozen or more private schools like Rasmussen, Keiser and Concorde, all within a 20 mile radius, and all of which offer one or more nursing programs. Nepotism is also big around here. On top of that, Florida's climate, beaches, etc...attracts highly-skilled veteran nurses and retirees. Some retired nurses have come back on board, or postponed retirement due to the economy. I also know several people that actually hate nursing, but came back into when the job they liked better went south when the economy tanked. So, all in all, we have lots of nurses. I know Florida isn't the only place with these demographics, but we seem, especially the Tampa Bay area, exceptionally flooded with grads.
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    New Grad Interview was strange...advice please.

    Thank you. Yes, this is a day shift, med surg scenario. Where I did clinicals, the nurses were allowed to clock in no earlier than 6:38. It was frowned upon to be clocking out late every shift, but sometimes 10-15 minutes was okay. So long as you don't run over 40 hours a week, they seemed okay with it. During my preceptorship I had up to six pts, but usually five. And if we had 6, we always had a PCA to do vitals, linen change, bed bath, CBIs, etc and the team leader usually tried to make the mix of 6 not all acute, high needs when possible. Eight does seem unreal to me. I can already say as a new grad, I wouldn't be able to handle 8 high needs patients. What I can tell from my limited experience, Med/Surg pts usually are more needy due to pain from injuries, surgeries and they seem to want to complain more about stuff. That's totally fine with me, I'm not complaining, it's just that when you times that number by 8...whoa, don't think I can do it.
  3. shaggy77

    New Grad Interview was strange...advice please.

    Thanks everyone for the replies. I probably should have mentioned that the CNO did verbally offer me the job, but made no mention of the pay/benes, not much info at all and gave me no paperwork to fill out and no visit to HR. Instead he ticked off his fingers what his expectations of me are and to be prepared for a typical 7-8 pt load and that they don't like us to go over 72 hours in a pay period. He also mentioned that two new grads were fired recently for not being able to keep up. They also didn't ask me too many questions about myself or seem all that interested in my portfolio. Sounds impossible to me, even for the veteran nurse. At my clinical sites, the RNs always clocked in 20 or so minutes early to prepare their WOWS and get ready for report/get report and the off-going shift never leaves at 7 on the dot. I have not been on a job interview in many years. I had been at my last job before I started nursing school for a couple of years, so it was a couple years before that that I even interviewed for it. Maybe I am naïve and rusty-out of practice, and I do feel they took advantage of me. I am so desperate to start my nursing career that maybe I need to change that and be more choosey and assertive with my questions. I am upset about the whole thing. I've come to find out that the recruiter works for an affiliate of the hospital, not the actual hospital itself. When she comes back from vacation I am sure going to ask for clarification. I don't even think I want this position. Sounds very difficult for a newbie and too much miscommunication going on. Not to mention it's over 200 miles away, no mention of the relocation assistance the website offers and it's in a little cow poke town with nothing to amuse yourself with but the yearly rodeo that comes through. I'm beginning to understand why most of their staff is comprised of travelers. Sometimes I wonder if the three years and all the money I invested in nursing school was a big mistake, that's how down I feel right now. Seems nobody wants us new grads except those that want to take advantage of us and get our nursing careers off to a terrible start.
  4. Thanks everyone for the replies. I probably should have mentioned that the CNO did verbally offer me the job, but made no mention of the pay/benes, not much info at all and gave me no paperwork to fill out and no visit to HR. Instead he ticked off his fingers what his expectations of me are and to be prepared for a typical 7-8 pt load and that they don't like us to go over 72 hours in a pay period. He also mentioned that two new grads were fired recently for not being able to keep up. They also didn't ask me too many questions about myself or seem all that interested in my portfolio. Sounds impossible to me, even for the veteran nurse. At my clinical sites, the RNs always clocked in 20 or so minutes early to prepare their WOWS and get ready for report/get report and the off-going shift never leaves at 7 on the dot. I have not been on a job interview in many years. I had been at my last job before I started nursing school for a couple of years, so it was a couple years before that that I even interviewed for it. Maybe I am naïve and rusty-out of practice, and I do feel they took advantage of me. I am so desperate to start my nursing career that maybe I need to change that and be more choosey and assertive with my questions. I am upset about the whole thing. I've come to find out that the recruiter works for an affiliate of the hospital, not the actual hospital itself. When she comes back from vacation I am sure going to ask for clarification. I don't even think I want this position. Sounds very difficult for a newbie and too much miscommunication going on. Not to mention it's over 200 miles away, no mention of the relocation assistance the website offers and it's in a little cow poke town with nothing to amuse yourself with but the yearly rodeo that comes through. I'm beginning to understand why most of their staff is comprised of travelers. Sometimes I wonder if the three years and all the money I invested in nursing school was a big mistake, that's how down I feel right now. Seems nobody wants us new grads except those that want to take advantage of us and get our nursing careers off to a terrible start.
  5. Hi I had my very first nursing interview yesterday. I was sent to the interview by a recruiter. It was supposed to be a new grad residency program for the Emergency Department. I brought a portfolio, dressed for success, practiced in my head the things I would say...the interview was two hours long. The first hour was with the Med/Surg Nurse Manager, the second with the Chief Nursing Officer. This is for a small-town 100 bed, one story hospital. Anyway, mid-way through the first hour I noticed the NM wasn't talking much about the residency program for which I drove nearly 200 miles from home to interview, and incurred an overnight hotel stay, not to mention $70 in gas. I started asking her questions about it, and she abruptly said, "Oh I was thinking more Med/Surg position." I was a bit startled, but totally accepting. As a newbie, I would be happy to start in Med/Surg. I actually think it is probably better because M/S is the foundation to nursing. She then handed me over to the CNO. He didn't tell me what the rate of pay would be, if the training (which doesn't even start for two months) is paid or not, what benefits are available or much else. Only told me what he wanted from me, and that I could expect to have a 7-8 patient load most days. Although I'm accepting of a M/S position, I have to admit I am bummed. I really wanted the Specialty Cert and other Certs that go with the ED residency program. Plus, I need to know if the three months of training is paid or not, and how much I'll be making and how much I'll be making once I'm on my own. I would have to move my family all the way down to this little rural town and I need to have a budget in mind. I also asked the CNO about ACLS, and he said he didn't know if I would be getting that in my training or not. The recruiter I originally spoke with is on vacation this week. I am confused, and have many unanswered questions and I'm starting to have doubts and feel depressed. I also feel I was taken advantage of. The recruiter talked up this ED residency program, that there would be paid training, relocation assistance, etc...but none of that was mentioned in the interview. Then they went and totally changed the job I was under the impression I was interviewing for. Please share your thoughts on this...
  6. Hi I had my very first nursing interview yesterday. I was sent to the interview by a recruiter. It was supposed to be a new grad residency program for the Emergency Department. I brought a portfolio, dressed for success, practiced in my head the things I would say...the interview was two hours long. The first hour was with the Med/Surg Nurse Manager, the second with the Chief Nursing Officer. This is for a small-town 100 bed, one story hospital. Anyway, mid-way through the first hour I noticed the NM wasn't talking much about the residency program for which I drove nearly 200 miles from home to interview, and incurred an overnight hotel stay, not to mention $70 in gas. I started asking her questions about it, and she abruptly said, "Oh I was thinking more Med/Surg position." I was a bit startled, but totally accepting. As a newbie, I would be happy to start in Med/Surg. I actually think it is probably better because M/S is the foundation to nursing. She then handed me over to the CNO. He didn't tell me what the rate of pay would be, if the training (which doesn't even start for two months) is paid or not, what benefits are available or much else. Only told me what he wanted from me, and that I could expect to have a 7-8 patient load most days. Although I'm accepting of a M/S position, I have to admit I am bummed. I really wanted the Specialty Cert and other Certs that go with the ED residency program. Plus, I need to know if the three months of training is paid or not, and how much I'll be making and how much I'll be making once I'm on my own. I would have to move my family all the way down to this little rural town and I need to have a budget in mind. I also asked the CNO about ACLS, and he said he didn't know if I would be getting that in my training or not. The recruiter I originally spoke with is on vacation this week. I am confused, and have many unanswered questions and I'm starting to have doubts and feel depressed. I also feel I was taken advantage of. The recruiter talked up this ED residency program, that there would be paid training, relocation assistance, etc...but none of that was mentioned in the interview. Then they went and totally changed the job I was under the impression I was interviewing for. Please share your thoughts on this...
  7. shaggy77

    New grad position in S. Florida???

    Hey, I know it's been awhile, but are you still there? How did it pan out for you? I interviewed today with two hospital officials. I'm a bit confused about some things, and will ask the recruiter when she comes back next week. Pay, sign on bonuses were not discussed. I have many questions...I asked a few of them, but didn't want to ask too many as I was the one being interviewed lol! It was explained that I would be going back and forth from Raulerson to Lawnwood to train for med/surg. Originally, I thought I was being interviewed for the ED internship (I'm a brand-new grad btw), but somehow between the two interviews today I was offered a med/surg position that I will happily take. However, I'm still very confused about if I'm going to be paid during the 6 week training, and how much. Then I'm supposed to have a preceptor for another 6 weeks I believe. It was mentioned that I would be on Parallon's payroll until I come on board with the hospital...also, if it's for med/surg why I am waiting until the end of July to start as that is the start date for the ED internship. Also, relocation payment is mentioned on their website, but was not discussed today, nor my starting pay. I kinda need to know these things so I can formulate a budget, and find a rental I can afford. I will be moving almost two hundred miles for this opportunity. I stayed overnight in a hotel so I could attend the interview today and paid about 70 in gas. I'm a broke single-mom new grad lol! Anyway, if you can share more details and let me know how you like there, I would so appreciate the heads up!!
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    Fort Defiance, AZ

    lol we seem to be thinking alike! I just left a comment on today's post by you concerning Raulerson. Seems like you're used to being a traveller? I have discussed Fort Defiance and IHS in general with a couple different travellers and I talked with a nurse recruiter for that area as well. It is very very desolate out that way. If you're used to travelling to places that are exciting with lots of stuff to do and places to go...this isn't that kind of place. Wide open desert, no buses, no alcohol allowed on reservations, no Walmarts or movie theaters...there is a huge problem with ETOH abuse nonetheless, domestic violence also, and a lot of diabetes/DKA issues. Some areas of the reservations are not safe, gangs/meth has navigated its way onto Native lands. If you're only going to be there for 16 weeks, you might be okay with the isolation. Arizona is very beautiful, and the high desert area/climate is very nice. Many of the people you will take care of will befriend you and the experience can be rewarding I've been told. You can apply on ihs.gov or usajobs.gov
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    Raulerson Hospital ER-Okeechobee, FL

    I would apply directly to the hospital or call their recruiter. I called the recruiter Tina and just had an interview! Good luck!
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    Is Rasmussen a Good college and transferable?

    I see that this thread is a little bit dated, but due to my experiences with Rasmussen students, I felt the need to post a comment. I can't speak for WI, because I am in Fla. First of all, the first comment is from someone who claims to be a Dean of their nursing program, yet his writing style screams salesman, not to mention, unprofessional. No capitalization or spaces where they are needed. I am a graduate nurse myself and have had to share clinical space with Rasmussen, Keiser, etc students and I am less than impressed. It's true, they will take ANYBODY! If they can help you secure the $50,000 in tuition, you're in like flynn. The Rasmussen students in my opinion are woefully inadequate. They are very rude and behave unprofessionally also. My experience with them yesterday went like this: First of all they hogged up the computers. One girl who had on gobs of make up and big huge fake eyelashes, and a giant boufant hairdo had to be told three times to get off the computers so a NURSE could use it!! How entitled is that? This same one gave me an attitude when I asked her to let me use the computer so I could chart my shift assessments, she had the nerve to say, "Can't you use one of the WOWS to chart?" That's when my preceptor stepped in and told her that I'm on preceptorship and whatever she's doing on the computer isn't as important as what I need to do, and the nurses and preceptor students trump them. I found out later they are just out of fundamentals and beginning Adult I, so they should know better.... All day I had to tolerate glares and attitudes from them. I think they are jealous because I'm a community college student and they can't get in there. They all remind me of nursing school rejects. Only one was nice that I met a few weeks ago, but her knowledge deficit is huge. She was on preceptorship with my preceptor at that time, and I was following them that day, well the preceptor asked her for a pts b/p trends and she got a blank look on her face, she didn't know what that meant. Then she told me that a pt's b/p was 80/113. I said, "You mean 113/80?" And she insisted it was that because the computer said so, and I explained that someone must've manually entered it, and they flip flopped the numbers. It didn't dawn on her that 80/113 is physiologically impossible!! Additionally, I took three of her pts, well two of them needed dressing changes and I offered for her to do them since she was on preceptorship and she declined, but instead asked if she could watch me. I had the feeling she's never done one before. And this is someone who was days away from graduating from an RN program!! Yesterday they also hogged up the break room with their huge backpacks, bags and lunch coolers. What were always told about that?? We weren't allowed to bring backpacks or even a lunch, we had to spend a small fortune on the cafeteria to eat so we wouldn't take up space from the staff! Then when my preceptor and I went into the break room to eat our lunch, a whole gang of them came piling in and one of them picked up her big wheeled back pack and set it on top of the lunch table like it was no big deal! Gross! We eat on the table. Those wheels have been on the ground and hospital floors, yuck! I would have said something to her if I was staff. My preceptor said nothing, but we both looked at her. Lastly, two of these students totally screwed up a pt. They were clueless to the most minor of common sense stuff. The pt was in a wheelchair, naked except for a dirty stained gown, juices running down her body from an open infected wound, pee on the floor and her IV tubing practically ripped from her arm because it was all wound-up around her wheelchair. They were bumbling around, their instructor peeked in and did nothing to intervene. So I went in, it wasn't my pt, but I felt like I had to do something. The two jerks up and left me there without so much as a "thanks", just a dirty look from one, and left me to clean up the huge mess they made. And the one that gave me the look was also being mean to this pt. She rolled her eyes at her and spoke to her in a snappish tone. I'm disturbed that these schools are allowed to do business and they are churning out a poor quality product. And we actually have to compete with it! They are causing a glut in the market and stinking up the nursing profession. Every encounter I've had with them during my three years of nursing school has been about the same, and it's because the "college" will literally take anybody. There is a reason nursing schools have certain accreditations. One of the manuevers that Rasmussen and other for-profit private schools like them use, is the alleged "nursing shortage". This tactic paves the way for them to earn accreditation. This fact should not be confused with the idea that they are providing a quality education, because from what I've seen they are not. There is also a reason that nursing school takes nearly three years to complete. It should. There is an ABUNDANCE of information one must learn. Rasmussen also doesn't have prerequisites, and that is a disadvantage to the student and the public they will one day care for. Prerequisite classes provide a foundation of understanding of disease processes, the physiology of the human body, growth and development, psychology and social science. It also shows which of the applicants has the brains to be a nurse. At my community college, there are hundreds that apply to the biannual application period. Only 24 get picked each time. Not to toot my own horn, but I was one of those 24 and it means a lot. It's a hard-earned accomplishment. We are considered the cream of the crop in the intelligence department. In order to have a chance of getting selected, you really need to have a 4.0 in your prerequisite classes and a very high TEAS score. It's my opinion that Rasmussen is actually doing a disservice to the medical community. All they care about is getting the tuition.
  11. shaggy77

    are you happy in the state your in?

    Totally agree with Marshall1...every state is hard to get a nursing job in now. Someone who has no experience and was educated in another state is even less likely to land a job right out of school. I live in Florida and we have so many of these nursing schools now. It used to be you had two choices...University or Community College...now there's a vast array of "private schools" that gouge you for tuition and churn out grad nurses like wax dolls. It's especially hard now because of the economy. Veteran nurses aren't budging from their positions, retirement has been postponed, hospitals want more for less and there's a Noah's flood of grad nurses. I haven't much room to talk though. I am graduating in May, and we're moving out west to Oregon. I will take any job to start, even non nursing, as I have a child to support, and just keep trying for a nursing job. Hopefully something will pop up. It's tough out there right now. To address your question, the only state out of the ones you mentioned that may have a slightly better chance of getting a job is Texas, although as another poster mentioned, Texas is tough on licensing. Don't mess with Texas! lol...If I were you I would stay right in California, try for a job where you do your clinicals at, get some experience and then maybe consider moving. I'm leaving Florida not only because I hate it here, but the area I'm in is an absolute glut of grad nurses and seasoned ones alike. No hope for me here. Nepotism is big as well. It's who you know if you want to get an interview. Best of luck to you.
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    are you happy in the state your in?

    Couldn't agree more with Marshal1.
  13. shaggy77

    A Plea to Nurses Everywhere

    Thank you for this post. I am a student nurse. I am supposed to graduate in May. I write supposed to because my instructor is a bully. She picks out certain ones each semester, I have learned, and this time it's me. She definitely displays horizontal violence and threatened to fail me, she is looking for ways to fail me. I am terrified of her and that she has the power to ruin my life and everything I have worked so damned hard for for over three years. And not just me, but my poor sick mother who has watched my daughter from newborn to almost three years of age, so I could make this happen. I hate my instructor. She is cruel and gobbles up her young. It's more than a shame, it's criminal because she is supposed to be our TEACHER! for literally crying out loud! We have a different instructor each semester and our final semester is governed by two bullies. The other one that has our other group of students is no better. I have been treated harshly and spoken to like I'm a complete idiot by various nurses at the different places we've done clinicals. I have asked myself many, many times if I really want this. I decided to try and become a nurse because I wanted to help people. I wanted a rewarding profession.....hmmm...and it isn't just the way the professionals treat one another, but I've seen other things I can't agree with. Like purposefully making a pateint wait for pain meds because the nurse doesn't like them. Or letting a patient lie in feces because the CNA is busy doing something else, although the nurse is standing right there gossiping and could clean the patient up, but chooses not to. Or the viscious things nurses say about each other...I had no idea it was like this. I feel so sad and wonder all the time if I made the right choice to go into nursing.
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    Dismissed, non-conviction misdemeanors..

    Hey [COLOR=#003366]katex03, I can't private message you back, because I haven't posted at least 15 times... I'm not familiar with MA law. From what I understand they are a strict state. In regard to the TEAS tests, here in Florida you only have to take it once, and if you're happy with your results, you may get a copy and re-use it to different schools. It's $50 bucks a pop in Fla, so I wouldn't let the schools con you into doing a test for each school, that's ridiculous. The TEAS is a national test, and you have a right to a copy of your result to take into your possession and you should also be allowed to submit that same result with your applications, no matter where you took the test. You shouldn't get a hard time over it. Just don't want you to be taken advantage of, a lot of private schools will if they can. If you were given pre-trial intervention, that would possibly explain why you don't have a solid conviction on your record. Again, I'm not familiar with how MA does things. Here in Fla if you complete your PTI you have adjudication withheld, but a record is still very much present. Instead of conviction it will state PTI completed. It's still a record, same as any other record. So maybe that's what it's like in MA. I disagree with the lawyer you spoke with about sealing your record. It WOULD help you a lot. It will erase the google search. Again, I'm going to use the only examples I know based on Fla's way of doing things. When a record is ordered to be sealed or expunged, all involved agencies must get a copy of the order signed by the Judge that does the sealing/expg. It is your (or your lawyer's if you have one) responsibility to make sure all the agencies get it and comply. If they don't comply you might be able to sue them for non-compliance with a Judge's order. Once they comply, the search engines will no longer have access to that info, and in time, it will disappear from the internet. Search engines crawl websites for info, but once the info is no longer "live", the crawlers won't see it, it goes down in number of views, and should eventually be gone permenantly. In Fla you can only get an expungement (meaning it's not viewable to anyone) one of two ways: the first being if the charges were dropped by the State Attorney, thrown out by the Judge or you were found not guilty by a jury of your peers, or a Grand Jury decides not to proceed. The second way is if your record has been sealed for no less than 10 years, you may petition for expungement. I highly suggest you look into your eligibilty for this, as it is very helpful. Many charges are not eligible for a sealing here in Fla it's a very short narrow list of petty crimes that is eligible, like shoplifting, 1st offense prostitution, disorderly conduct, public drunkeness, etc and there are other stringent criteria. So idk if your charges would even be eligible. Maybe that's what the lawyer meant, but a sealing always helps. It takes it away from public view, so if you want to rent an apartment, apply for a non-medical job like at Macy's or something, and you don't want your nosy frenemy spotting it on a google search, a sealing is the way to go. The attorney is correct though, that certain governmental agencies will always be able to see it. This includes any and all things health care related, as they perform their background checks through governmental agencies such as the Department of Children and Families, the FBI, AHCA (Agency for Healthcare Administration), etc this is done to protect vulnerable populations. It still looks good though that you went to the trouble of sealing it. It's like saying you are rehabilitated and wanting a fresh start in life. Yeah they see it, but they see you have changed, and that state and Judge signing the order believes you are worthy of a second chance. If you have been allowed to get your CNA certificate from Ma BON, and you've also worked in the capacity of a CNA, that's a very positive sign! I would definitely mention that to the schools. Here in Fla, you can't even get your CNA if your record is too questionable. You must also get an exemption from the BON before you're even allowed to take your CNA state exam. Exhaust every resource possible to advance yourself. Perhaps have your dad write a letter for you in your favor, explaining there was a dysfunction in the family dynamics that lead to your being arrested, but that has now been resolved and the arrest, in his opinion, should never have happened. You complied with the law and did everything you were told to do to rectify the situation. It might help. Congratulations on your new job!! Keep your chin up and never give up on your dreams!
  15. shaggy77

    Being a new grad sucks!

    As a new nurse, you will be getting MUCH insight from your preceptors and managers. It "sucks" everywhere right now. I'm a grad too, and in Florida. Let me tell you, I don't think I'll even be getting a job here, that's how much it "sucks" here. I already know we're going to have to move. I have no idea how I'm going to manage either. Paying back student loans six months post-grad is really scaring me. Many Florida grads are six months, ten months out and they still do not have a nursing job. You are not alone, trust me. There is an abundance of negativity, fear and anxiety for new grads right now, and in general for the medical profession. At least you're getting interviews. Many newbies have not even gotten that far yet. So there's a plus in your corner.
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    Any hope for RN jobs near Las Vegas?

    Wow! I cannot believe no one has left a comment. This is a great topic. So I'll be the first...Honestly, I don't have anything of value to offer as a direct answer to your inquiry, just my own humble opinion. The job situation, even for experienced RNs, is tough everywhere. I'm graduating in May with my RN here in Florida...and honestly, I feel like I just wasted three years of my life. I don't know if or when someone will hire me. You mentioned you like warm climates, I wouldn't bother with Florida. Nursing jobs are scarce, and there's more nurses than Carl has liver pills, grads and vets alike. Plus, being Florida-born and raised, I'm allowed to say it truly sucks here on numerous levels. I've been to NV too, and Las Vegas has its issues as well. Every place does really, but you have to follow your dreams and don't let anything stop you. 48 is not old! You have many years left in you to explore, travel and make discoveries. I'm a novice nurse, but it sounds to me like you have plenty of valuable experience and skills to offer. Have you considered travel nursing? If you're not tied down, agency/travel nursing might be a great way for you to try out different areas first, to see if you really want to uproot and stay there. I know the southwest and Vegas use travelling nurses often. Don't forget places like Oklahoma and the southwest have more days of sunshine than gloom. Oklahoma has all four seasons as well. Good luck to you! Change is good for the soul.
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