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  1. jlpsu

    Just took PSB for UPMC Mercy, ask away!

    Yes...we were able to use a calculator
  2. jlpsu

    Just took PSB for UPMC Mercy, ask away!

    That part had me the most stressed as well...but I got a 91 in the science...96 in Math, 98 in verbal....pretty good...except that I only got a 55 in reading comprehension! Like I said above, I got hung up on a section and didn't get many questions answered....so prepare for the science, but be aware of the reading comp....it completely messed up my scores and I can't apply where I was going to apply now... Anyway, to answer your question though, I studied the science in 5, yes...5, nursing school entrance exam books. You need to know the basics in chem, physics, biology, etc...basically, what you would know (and remember!) graduating high school. But I hadn't remembered any of it! So I studied the science and math sections pretty hard, and my scores reflected that. I didn't study the reading comp AT ALL because I felt like I would have no trouble with that since I am a voracious reader. I did score a 98 in verbal which reflects that - but my reading comp score reflects the fact that I did not know how to take that part of the exam. I would do it differently if I could do it again. I would skip the passages that are full of weird science information (my passage that I got hung up on was about electrical engineering) and focus on easier to read passages...all that matters is the number correct, regardless of the passages you read.... Good luck....I liked the Baron's Guide to nursing school entrance exams the best, by the way....
  3. well after all of that....I took the PSB exam and scored from 91-99% in Math, Science, Verbal and vocational adjustment...but scored way low on the reading comp for some weird reason. I read a ton, so I am not sure what happened. I think I got really hung up on one of the passages as it was all technical jargon and I simply ran out of time. I could hardly believe it. Now, since Mercy only lets you apply if you pass all sections, I am not eligible to apply. It's very disheartening because I have a 3.9 GPA from my undergrad....I'm not an idiot. But I sure feel like one! Ugh...I talked to them and they said they haven't decided yet whether I would have to take the entire test again, or if I could just take the reading comp again. If I have to take the whole test again, forget it. I did get accepted for an interview at Citizens School of Nursing, which is affiliated with WPAHS and has pass rates similar to mercy. The interview is the last step there...they've already determined I'm a good candidate. So, hopefully that goes well and I will get in there. I may also apply to the local CC, but their pass rates are horrible, so I'm not sure. I'm so mad...because I prepared like crazy - as evidenced by my scores in the other sections, but because of the one section, I'm out. Frustrating....
  4. Very true! I got married young at 23 and had my first child at 25...then my biological clock just ran out of 'tick' and I couldn't get PG again. We ended up adopting 3 beautiful perfect children (1 from Russia, 2 from China) that I couldn't imagine my life without...so it all worked out perfectly in the end. Now they are ages 7-14 and I have a little time to do this. But I have to be realistic as to what I can actually do. Don't worry about your biological clock (I know, easier said than done)...there are so many parenting options out there these days!
  5. I'm currently applying to schools. My family is completely supportive, and so are the friends I've told. I'm not really telling that many people until I get accepted somewhere. I didn't mean that the schools would make you feel freakish...they see career changers all of the time...I just meant that there were a few older co-workers and one or two extended family members who think that I should just be happy being a SAHM now and should give up on any dream of a career. I admit, I'm older...but I'm not 'too old', if there is even such a thing! At 39, I finally feel like I know what I am supposed to be doing. I wish I would have figured it out earlier, but I didn't. I fought nursing for a long time because my mother was a nurse and I wanted to 'brave my own trail', as it were. Now I realize I am SO much like my mother and that I should embrace that....I am so very proud of her 35+ years of nursing. My parents helped with my first degree, though I had student loans...my second degree was paid by my husband and me, as will this third degree. I can't see spending a ton of money if I don't have to when, as I said, my daughter will be going to college in a few years. I don't want to take anything away from her to fund another educational experience for me. It's a luxury that I have been able to figure out my life in this way...if we couldn't do it and save for our kids schooling, I wouldn't do it. Even though I can, I don't want to take more out of the kids "pot" than is necessary. I totally get the appeal of the ABSN programs, and wish I could do it - but I can't handle that schedule with kids, so I move forward with what I CAN do and go from there. I will absolutely do a RN-BSN, or RN-MSN program in the future... Good luck to you too!
  6. Third career change for me! I have two BS degrees...the first in communication disorders and I worked under a SLP for a number of years doing speech therapy for severely handicapped adults. Then, I had kids and stayed home for several years and went back in 2001 for a second degree. I got my second BS degree in IT with a minor in Psychology and I loved it. I loved working with computers - but things being what they are, my job role changed and I would have had to travel a lot etc...and that wasn't something I could do with 4 kids. Plus I have a child who had some medical issues, so I needed to stay home with him. So, I went back to being a SAHM. I've thought of nursing school for years, even before I went back to school, but didn't think I could do it with really young kids. Now, my oldest is in highschool and my youngest is first grade and I have the time M-F to devote to school. I am currently taking classes at the local CC. I only need the sciences as all of my other classes will transfer. I'm applying to the ADN program and to a few diploma programs that have awesome reputations with a ton of clinical experiences. My heart is set on the diploma program, so I hope I get in! I decided against the accelerated BSN because of time and cost. The BSN program is 13 months, which is great, but after talking to the program director I found that the 10 hour days, 5 or 6 days a week for 13 months is just not feasible with my family life...I'd love to just get it done, but it will also cost 3-4 times what the ADN or Diploma will cost me. When I have a kid going to college in a few years, I need to be cognizant of the costs as well.... There's my story! I love hearing from other career changers because I often get a startled look when I say I'm going back to school....As if I should just lie down and die because my other careers didn't work out for one reason or another....I don't look at it as failures, because I thrived in both of my careers - I just look at is as life is not tied up in a neat little bow and sometimes you have to run with the changes....
  7. jlpsu

    PSB for LPN

    I took the PSB this month - but it was for the RN program so I'm not sure how different it is. I heard it is the same except for some of the science, but I'm not sure.... Anyway, the math was basic 8th grade math. No geometry or very complicated algebra. You didn't need to know any formula's etc... I scored in the 90th percentile and up for all categories EXCEPT for reading comprehension. I don't know what happened there...I only scored a 55 percentile. They only gave us 15 mintues and I got very nervous and very caught up on some of the scientific jargon uses in the passage I was reading. I obviously bombed that part. Since the school I wanted to go to only lets you apply if you are higher than the 65th percentile in all sections, I can't apply there. But that's ok. I have found other schools who either have lower entrance exam percentage requirements or who take the test as part of the WHOLE package (esssay, GPA, college transcripts, etc...) rather than the test being the whole package. Good luck! Don't panic during any of the sections. I definitely did during the reading - knowing that I was running out of time...and it obviously hurt me....
  8. Hi All, I took the PSB entrance exam last week and received my scores in the mail today. high 90's in all subject areas EXCEPT reading comprehension! I failed that part....I don't know how as I am a voracious reader, but I obviously did not translate that into a good test score in that area. We only had 15 minutes on that section and I know I got caught up with some of the scientific jargon in one passage. I panicked and screwed it up...what else can I say? Anway, my #1 choice for nursing school requires that you pass this before you can even apply. So, even though I got high 90's in math, science and verbal, AND I have a 3.9 GPA from my bachelors degree, my school of choice will not even accept my application because I failed the one section. It seems so stupid to hang the whole thing on one test - but it's their policy and I'll have to live with it. I'm feeling very sad and unintelligent right now....but I am just trying really hard to have my end goal in mind and apply to a school that uses the entrance exam as part of the whole picture rather than BEING the whole picture. The sad part is, if I could go straight to the accelerated or non accelerated BSN programs (which I can't for a variety of reasons), I would not even need to take this test and I'd be fine because my GPA is so high. So it is actually harder for me to get into the ADN and diploma programs than it would be to get into the BSN programs! Frustrating. Anyway, just came here to vent. I studied for 6 weeks....did better in math and science than I expected...and am just so very disapointed in the rest of it....
  9. jlpsu

    PSB RN Test

    I wish I had better news....I got my scores today and while I scored above the 90th percentile in most categories, I scored below the 65th percentile in Reading Comp, so I cannot apply to UPMC Mercy unless I retake the test and score better. I'm not sure I want to retake the test, so I am going to apply to some other schools instead. Which is a shame, because my first choice was Mercy. I am a voracious reader, so I am stunned about this result. I wonder if I read too deeply? I ran out of time in the reading comp and only answered 20 or so questions. We only were given 15 minutes, which was a ridiculous amount of time. I scored in the 98th percentile in Verbal, 91st in Math, 95th in Science and I have a 3.9 GPA from my previous bachelors...but I still can't apply. It seems so stupid to put so much weight on one test. I will hope to find other schools who take into consideration the whole picture. Mercy doens't even know my GPA, because they won't let me apply with these PSB scores. Very disapointed at this point, and feeling pretty down. But, I'll have to pick myself up and get moving and figure out what I'm going to do. Best of luck....If I did do it again, I'd skip any of the reading comp passages that were too difficult to read....I got stuck on a lot of scientific jargon and I think that put me behind. I only scored in the 52nd percentile....again...crazy as I read constantly. Sometimes it's not what you know, but how you can prove it on a test.
  10. jlpsu

    NEED INPUT!! Think this will get me into school?

    Because I have too much time on my hands (not!) I did a little research. First of all, the Apollo Group is the parent of UOP so in that small way, the story makes sense. However, the Apollo group has nothing whatsoever to do with GCU other than several of the higher ups (CEO's) etc, came from working at the Apollo Group before going and working with GCU. So perhaps some policies changed, but they were not bought out by the Apollo Group, that I can find anyway. All investor relations documents online with the SEC say that Grand Canyon U is owned by Grand Canyon Education. I also looked for law suits involving GCU and/or Apollo Group. I did find two similar law suits relating to the Whistle Blower law (filed against each, but completely different suits) and some financial aid class action law suit - but no law suit connecting the two. Granted, I spent about 32 seconds on this research, but still - if there were a 15 million dollar law suit because of the joining of two entities -I think it would have come up in the first 3 pages of google searching. in other posts, the OP indicates several contradictory things: He/She also indicates that they would be willing to go ANYWHERE there isn't a waiting list AND The OP also says they would NOT be willing to leave Arizona because the 'merger' wiped him out financially - BUT the OP also says he/she has no debt. He/She is also extremely smart and ready for medical school, AND also has a learning disability. The OP has found that GPA doesn't matter for getting into school, but experience does and he/she doesn't have the right kind of experience. The OP has found that GPA is the ONLY thing that matters so they can't get into school. I can't possibly make out what's going on here other than there is SOME reason the OP can't get into nursing school and some reason why he/she obtained 40 credits worth of F's for 'no reason'. 40 credits in 2 semesters? I mean, I know it can be done, but it's not usual. OP - I don't know what's happening with you but it's obvious that you want to go to school somewhere. The rest of it I will take with a grain of salt. I apologize if you think I'm being harsh here - but your posts have been contradictory. But, assuming that you are willing to go anywhere - Here in PA, a 3.2 will get you into a state school with no waiting list. Several parts of the state are pretty good with the job market too. So, if you are truly willing to go anywhere...PA is at least one answer. I'm sure there are a ton of other states in the USA where a 3.2 will get you into nursing school. If Arizona isn't the place - move on. It's a big country. Lastly, I can't believe I just spent 15 minutes writing this post at 10:30 at night...I know I had better things to do!
  11. jlpsu

    NEED INPUT!! Think this will get me into school?

    If you are REALLY wanting to go to nursing school, and the schools you are applying to take GPA to be their highest determining criteria, then yes...it will hurt you to try to explain away your issues. As unique as your issues might seem to you - and as valid as the complaint may be - the nursing schools get hundreds of applications a year and have certainly heard it "all" before. Whether or not that "all" is accurate or not doesn't matter. They have no way of telling if you've told the truth. Your question was 'will a letter make a difference?' and I think you are getting your answer here in that most of us don't think it will. No one is trying to be mean - everyone is trying to get you to think realistically. These will be the opinions out there. I am having to re-take several classes because I took them too long ago for them to count. Does that irritate me? Absolutely. Did it stop me...no way. Parental support ends at 26? I was married with kids by 26 - so you aren't going to get a lot of sympathy from anyone here that at 26 you need to be on your own. That's as it should be. As for the rest of it... Explaining TWO semesters worth of "F"'s would be much harder than explaining one F. I think you will be facing an uphill battle of believability. So now get it together, and decide what further sacrifices, if any, you are willing to make to become a nurse. If you would be just as happy as a lab tech, then fine, go for that. If you really want to be a doctor, then go for that. But whatever you do, don't blame anyone else for anything and just put the past behind you and go from NOW.
  12. jlpsu

    Citizens school of nursing

    That's a really good point and one I hadn't considered. All of the diploma schools seem to graduate at the end of June, with the CC's graduating at the beginning of May. I wonder how much of an impact that will have on job searches? One of the benefits of being in a hospital diploma program seems to be that you get a leg up on getting a job in their system, and certainly those hospitals know when their own nursing schools graduate. It's something I will have to think on for sure as I hadn't considered that aspect before. Thanks for pointing that out! @xtxrn thanks again for always putting things into perspective
  13. jlpsu

    Citizens school of nursing

    well that is good information to know. Although when I talked to them, they told me that they had July and August off just like Mercy. I am interested in Mercy because it is such a large hospital and because they are a level I trauma center. I've thought that it might be better to get "in" with UPMC since they own half of the city - but then the 'root for the little guy' in me hates that they own half the city so I want to go somewhere else! But, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot either... I took the pre entrance exam at UPMC Mercy last week. I'll have to wait 3 weeks for my results, but if I did well enough I can apply there. I've already applied at Citizens. If I get into both, I will have to decide. Citizens does do clinicals at a smaller hospital (allegheny valley). Ugh..so confusing! I like WCCC's nursing program as well, but the diploma schools do have more clinicals which I like. Hopefully I am lucky enough to have to make a decision! Thanks so much for your input. It's hard finding info on Citizens because it's a small school fairly far outside of the city....
  14. jlpsu

    Citizens school of nursing

    Any idea if they liked citizens? I've heard BCCC is a good program as well. I'm unfortunately on the other side of the city. I got to WCCC now for my sciences, but I really feel a diploma school is the best fit for me right now. I have a BS degree already and really want the additional clinical as compared to WCCC. I will eventually go for my BSN. Anyway, I like how close Citizens is, and I like it's not affiliated with UPMC....I just can never find anyone who went there! If you know anyone who might be willing to tell me about their program you can PM me and I'll send you my email address so that I might be able to communicate with them.
  15. jlpsu

    Citizens school of nursing

    Hi everyone, I already posted a similar question in the PA school forum but am not getting a lot of responses and a search did not come up with much either. So, please forgive me for posting in the general forum - I thought that I might get some previous grads from this school who no longer check the PA nursing programs board. Anyway, I am trying to find people who went to Citizens school of nursing. It is a diploma program affiliated with West Penn Allegheny Health System in Pittsburgh. I have applied there and love the WPAHS and think it sounds like a good program - but I have not been able to find many people who have gone there, which worries me. I've had a few positive recommendations, nothing bad yet - but only a hanful of posts here also have me concerned. I have also applied to UPMC Mercy. UPMC has me scared as well, but for a complete other reason for another post another time! If you've gone to CSON or you know someone who did, please either PM me or respond to this message to let me know it's reputation in the area, quality of education, etc.... And again, I apologize to the nurses who have no interest in this thread. Just trying to make the very best educated decision on my schooling and I am not getting very far in my research on the appropriate forums or in the search. Thanks for your patience....
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