I am going to give the Math Teacher the benefit of the doubt. I am not sure if he/she is still reading but perhaps they came here out of frustration after the bloody nose experience as a way to understand our role better. While this forum is super helpful as a place to learn from each other, what he may not realize is that, when surrounded by the few professionals that truly understand the frustrations of our job, we also use the forum as a great place to vent. Many of the things vented here are more to release negative energy to a sympathetic group of cohorts than because we truly believe many of the parents/teachers are as stupid/uncaring/lazy as these posts may imply. It sounds like this math teacher and the nurse were both put in the tough position of having to deal with a messy situation at an inopportune time. I think we can all agree that the best place for a student with a bloody nose depends largely on the maturity and the health history of the student, the amount of blood, and yes, the ability of another professional to be able to give calm accurate advice.