Apology accepted! Go to bed and sleep well! And i must apologise too for being pigheaded when it comes to this stuff, I am abit passionate about good care
Apologies SMK1, as you will see I am from another country. And when I went to nursing school no I wasn't taught those things, when I went onto to do midwifery it was touched on. So I actually have...
This is the exact reason why CS rates are skyrocketing world wide...no one wants to flog the horse! It ain't dead in my opinion. Sorry! I welcome this sort of debate because WE can all benefit it from...
ob/gyn..no one has said that in certain circumstances to some women efm hasn't made a difference, we've all seen the saves haven't we! but my counter argument is how many women are rushed to theatre...
try www.nice.org.uk for guidelines based on evidence for intrapartum care, caesarean birth, efm and antenatal care. try the who publication care in normal birth at:...
Read alittle more widely and you will inform yourself of the physiology of labour, hormones ring a bell, do they teach that in nursing school? Then read abit further about the interplay of hormones...
Gee I'm not sure where to start! The words judgmental & narrow mindedness come to mind. Hippies!! I love how those who promote interventive birth practices call those who don't hippies! It's...
stories are fab arwen, they are what makes us think about all the stuff we've been fed over the years! the obstetric myths as i call them!! then we can go looking for the stats to back up our new way...
Amazing isn't it...we have always been led to believe that women will bleed or whatever after longer labours! The full paper is a great read, and there are a couple of other references too, god forbid...
there is research around that supports the fact that friedmans stuff was crap and that women can labour more slowly and the outcomes are good. j perinatol. 1999 mar;19(2):114-9. the duration of labor...
Wow...some passionate responses! Thank you. I must give you more info tho. We don't routinely involve doctors in normal labours and midwives do the hands on care (like you guys). So we have guidelines...
Isn't that a form of bullying.....women have very few options to go anywhere else to have there babies because they have been led to believe that technology is safest! IV in labour on all women is...
We do our own cord blood collection for gases. A good way of practising is to let them 'play' with a few cords in a workshop type scenario so there is no pressure. And a good way to remember which...
that's shocking isn't it. can i suggest tho' that we all have a hand in this. we meaning nurses midwives women & doctors. we all play our part in the appalling overuse of technology around birth!...
:monkeydance: I think you're spot on with that one Nora. No matter what we do there will always be bad outcomes in any environment. And then people will sue. In my mind practising defensively only...
Gee where do you start! Skin to skin is a good one. You could look at mobility in labour, the use of EFM on womne who don't need it, documentation, PPH rates....its
OBGYN Too Long your story of your birth is about a timely CS. Well done to your careprovidors for delivering your baby the way you needed it to happen. I'm not arguing that there should be no CS. But...
Low risk as defined by the WHO. Look up Care in Normal birth. And you know the US ain't the only place that patients sue! It is obstetricians and lawyers who shoot themselves in the foot here,...
Said like a true legal professional. Read the Cochrane reviews on the subjects i.e ARM & EFM. CSs increase the risk of a woman dying, and then of course you have the increased risk of infection,...
In Australia at least it is part of the active management of the third stage....the thought is that it will start to work not long after the baby is birthed. Reality in our place is it pretty much...
Hi all I'm a nurse midwife in Australia. Am keen to hear from you all about how third stages are managed in your unit. We in Oz do the UK thing and give the oxytocic with the birth of the anterior...