I have never questioned whether this could be a good opportunity for learning. I have ONLY questioned the pay scale. I cannot afford, have the time, nor have any desire to volunteer for 40 hour weeks. I have always worked and will continue to do so. I have a new grad position lined up so I am not interested in this anyway. No one wants to discuss the pay, which almost everyone says its low, and then goes off on a why it is such a good opportunity, what a great experience, new grads are basically losers, whatever. The intent of this thread was never about questioning that. If they offered a measly 6 dollars more I wouldn't have even created this thread! We have covered a lot here, most of it off topic, but I have enjoyed reading everyone's responses. It has turned into quite a hot topic, so something is definitely interesting about this offer. For me, I need to make a decent wage now, not in six months. if I couldn't find a nursing job, I would do something else until something came up, or if nothing did, I wouldn't work in nursing! No big deal. As I said, I will be starting a job at more than 11.44, so I am covered. I can tell you that if my only option was to start at 11.44, or if that becomes the norm I wouldn't have considered nursing. I am sure that many new grads and potential people considering nursing will feel the same way. Remember I said many, I know all positions are filled before I get told that again. While I value the wisdom of those that have been in nursing a longer time, I was always focused on the impact of 11.44 on new grads and those that might be considering nursing. That is the discussion that I wanted to have, but so few really want to have it. For those that want to take "advantage" of it, good for them. I just think that a new precedent might be starting here, and it may or may not be a good thing in the long run. Time will tell, because no one on here, including myself can predict the future. I just wanted to discuss its possible impact and the fact that the program really could have offered a little more cash. I think it is time I began another topic! Keep the passion and dialog going, and never forget that we were all new grads at one time! Peace Out!