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  1. Please read you articles before you post. It is a very simple equation: Too many nurses=lower salaries=CEO's make more money. Has congress helped nurses in the past? Congress is run by lobbyists who work for large hospitals. Where do you think this bill came from?
  2. Hey All! I'm an I.C.U/ E.R. nurse about to get into the precepting game. While it's not quite the same as teaching newbies (I'll be teaching mostly experienced nurses) I would absolutely LOVE TO HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE TRICKIEST, STICKIEST AND MOST UNBELIEVABLE SITUATIONS YOU HAVE FOUND YOURSELF IN WITH A NEWBIE!! Thanks so much- Looking for lessons to learn from and get a chuckle or two while I can- Sonny
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    How to deal with a nurse that acts immature?

    Do the mature thing and back off, do not engage, be polite and let them fly straight into the ground.
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    Air Force RN Found Not Guilty

    This nurse is nothing short of heroic. He selflessly advocated for dying patients in his care in their time of need. THESE WERE DNR PATIENTS, TAKEN OFF LIFE SUPPORT TO SUCCUMB TO NATURAL PROCESSES. Nurses should come together and praise this model registered nurse.
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    Are older nurses being forced out of the profession?

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    You...are...awesome!! Of course, you being awesome is really just an anecdotal subjective emotional outburst on my part but for right now it will just have to do.
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    Me. And I'll tell you why. Because instead of presenting your credentials, instead of letting the readers on this board geared towards nursing know how you have become the final authority on all data pertaining to this topic- you proudly type that anecdotal data is useless and therefore you will not stop to interpret or really even read what the good people here are trying to educate you about. It's a bit like a child plugging their ears and saying "Na!Na!Na!" Yo want data on which doctors are chumps and babies, you got it- its called allnurses.com, genius. Start gathering your data and make a pie chart will you? "I can tell you that the majority of doctors are not like this." You have a great sense of humor. I 'll give you that. You give me a smile when I come home at 0200 after getting my butt stomped on for 13 hours. You continually defend what is at best a poorly developed viewpoint, which at best serves yourself. I wonder why you are incapable of understanding that any data, any study, any ridiculous summary of hours spent screwing around in a hospital can be analyzed in the very same manner that anecdotal data can. A study can be interpreted, data can be arranged to support any number of conclusions. One single study can support a myriad of absolutely opposing viewpoints. On one of your earlier posts you stated that a researcher was "anti physician" or something to that extent. And how did you come to that conclusion? And why should I accept your, and I truly don't mean to offend you, but what comes across as immature and strangely Asperger esque point of view? You ask for data, you got it, twice now, and each time you've essentially stomped your feet in tantrum and refused to accept data. Why don't you try speaking my language- where are your anecdotes? You have none. Because instead of learning to work with people, instead of learning how things really work, you hang out on the internet debating nurses who work themselves raw, along with the large number of absolutely incredible physicians out there. Emotion has a place in this debate because as you will find out when you actually get a job, healthcare rapidly transcends statistics. Medicine is about people, bottom line. I'm sorry, it is obvious to me you do not understand this. Walk in my shoes. Then I will listen to you. I toe the line with physicians every day. Most M.D.'s I know are great team players, and are smart enough to listen to my judgement. In turn I trust their leadership. Unfortunately, I say about half of practicing physicians are emotionally stunted teenagers who should have gone to prom instead of memorizing rare spores, molds and fungi. And no, i have absolutely no data to back that up. Just lots and lots of stories of Md's who didn't lose their virginity until after residency. :) The answer to problems as complex as health care cannot come from raw data. IMO, what is missing is anecdotal testimony from people who are there, on the front line, year in and year out, and have to suffer through over educated, emotionally stunted individuals diddling data and coming up with conclusions that support their own purposes.
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    I paraphrased you there but the problem with your logic comes from what appears to be your obvious inexperience. The primary flaw in your logic is is the fact that despite the numerous hours of experience med students and residents put into their training, the quality of their care is often comical. How often do I see med students and residents standing around, gossiping, studying? Completely oblivious to the goings on around them? How often are they really part of the hospital team? Not much. Just because you are inside of a hospital doesn't mean your are learning anything that is actually useful. Massively piling hours up sounds like a recipe for incompetence to me. Since very few doctors have ever gone to nursing school and most to this day truly don't know what a nurse actually does, the unknown fact is that nursing school is at minimum a two year crash course in how TO RUN A HOSPITAL FROM THE GROUND UP. On the flip side, nurse's have to know what a MD does to do their job. MD's frankly consider 90% of the necessary functioning of a hospital someone else's problem. This makes MD's weak and ineffectual. I find med students and even up to R2's utterly clueless on how to contact the resources available to them (i.e. lowly custodial staff, dieticians, social workers) to efficiently wrap up a case and help expedite a patient's care. In addition, I regularly meet physicians with numerous years of experience who find that when other members of the team ask them to do something a certain way, like writing orders, to follow the standardized procedure, they simply will not do so. The primary reason why MD's are so spectacularly ineffective in their roles is their utter arrogance to admitting the fact that 1) other people are as important as they are and 2)that every time a physician decides to do things "their way" it costs untold man hours to rectify the problem and get the patient back on track. Nurses are responsible FOR EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM THAT ARISES. WE KNOW HOW TO FIX PROBLEMS QUICKLY AND WITHOUT NURSES DOCTORS ARE UTTERLY UTTERLY USELESS. NURSES ARE ALSO RARELY GIVEN CREDIT FOR SAVES, EMOTIONAL THERAPY TO DE-ESCALATE ASSAULTIVE OR DISTURBED PATIENTS, ALL THE LITTLE FIXES, THE THINKING AHEAD. IT IS EXPECTED OF US. NURSES DO NOT EXPECT TO GET CREDIT. DOCTORS DO. DOCTORS HAVE CREDIT SEEKING BEHAVIOR. When a nurse decides to transition into the practioner role, if in their practice they are treated with the same professional respect as MD's I have found them to be far more effective, getting the job done with out so many displays of tantrums and blatant disregard for the job everyone else has to do. MD's have the luxury of being told they are so very very important from day one. Nurses are taught we are not as important from day one. We have learned to diagnose and treat in a round about way, integrated into our standards of practice so as to not dare cross over into the "medical" model and dare speak a diagnosis. As if what nurses do isn't "medical" from the second we step into a hospital. Being trained "in the medical model" doesn't make you a jedi warrior, it's hilarious when a M.D actually brays that from their lips. What nonsense. The bottom line is that this change in roles, this impending tidal wave of need has been brought on by doctor's themselves, who for the last 60 years have been running around touting their incredible powers of mind and yet have been in fact, accomplishing extremely little. Prime example: Last night I worked registry in a local E.R. The on staff, full time physician ordered a bladder irrigation for a patient, s/p bladder resection from bladder CA. Large amount of spraying blood, gross hematuria, fair amount of blood loss. M.D. refused to consult pt's urologist. I asked the wife to call. She did. We did this without E.R. M.D. knowing. E.R. M.D. didn't know what type of fluid to use for irrigation. Didn't know how much. Didn't know how fast. Wasn't worried about blood loss. "Have to get the clots out" was his mantra. Didn't want to pay to have coags drawn. Didn't want to type and cross. Patient nearly died. Pt didn't die because I: 1) drew coags, drew type and screen and broke the rules when I put two on cross later. 2) I called a darn urologist cuz I didn't want the patient to bleed out. 3)I started an 18 guage IV without permission. 4)I demanded he get a uro consult. When uro consult came he admonished moron doc in front of all of us and 5)pt was rushed to or where HE DIDN'T DIE. Doctor didn't thank anybody, was oblivious to THE HOURS OF MANHOURS HE wasted when it took 5 RN's to get the show on the he road and get the work done. AND THEN HE PROCEEDED TO ATTEMPTED TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE WHOLE SITUATION IN FRONT OF UROLOGIST WHO THEN ADMONISHED HIM. THIS IS A REGULAR OCCURENCE. I was expected to clean up an incompetent doctor's mess. I can tell you, no med student on earth would ever, will ever, know how to handle that situation. A nurse with one year of experience will. Your argument logically looks great, just like a nice lab coat and a clean pressed shirt with a tie. But the argument is own by the reality of what happens, day in and day out in every hospital in America. No matter how smart the doc is, they simply cannot fix all the problems with any level of efficacy that they think they can. And I'll tell you something, because of that experience, because of this article, so help me god, I'm going to NP school. And in three years I'll be healing people the right way, with HUBRIS, but I will not hesitate to take or give credit when it is and where it is deserved.
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    less interruptions help nurses reduce drug errors

    You know what else? Signing my name two hundred times a day makes my hand distracted, too. Make they could eliminate that from my job also.
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    What the heck is going on in Portland right now?

    I apologize you feel like there is hazing going on. My post is responsible for that sentiment. Believe it or not, I sympathize with you more than I have issues with the BSN. I think it's wonderful that nursing is moving forward, becoming undeniably more professional. Nurses are gifted, talented, dynamic pro's and we deserve a whole lot more credit than we get. The BSN frustrates me because it is not changing the profession for the better. It seems to be raising the bar for expectations with no reward. And while your focus is on employment and becoming a nurse you will soon ask yourself, "Okay, I'm a nurse, I know what I'm doing, I'm educated, why no growth? Why are nurses pay and status capped so early but responsibilities grow exponentially." Nursing is a field of lateral movements, not upward. This is my second career, I have a B.A. in media. I worked in a corporate environment. I cannot believe the expectations placed on nurses and the offensive demand that we do what we are told because if we don't we are greedy evil people who hate our patients. That's a generalization but a subtle pervasive attitude I pick up on from many unsatisfied nurses. It's ridiculous. With your BSN your scope of practice is not much different than mine. Your pay is not much more than an ADN (though it absolutely should be). I guess my frustration lies with the fact that I see the BSN graduates and I expect to hear excitement about this wonderful career, I expect to hear talk about moving nursing forward, more talk of nursing research, more talk of pay improvements (nursing salaries on a whole have been relatively stagnant for the last 8 years yet we are expected to do more and know more), more talk of professional recognition amongst our peers for the amazing jobs we do on a daily basis. But there is an utter disconnect regarding the fact that nursing is a rough, sometimes brutal sport. After you find a job and get settled in I assure you will ask yourself, what did this degree do for me? If it got you your foot in the door, great-but what about that horrible nursing shortage? You will be forced to confront an absurd amount of hostility coming from senior nurses who feel insecure or cheated. The behavior of experienced nurses towards new nurses is not only illegal but is tolerated and encouraged. It breeds resentment and profound insecurity. I see no collective thought or direction from our field. I don't advocate that anybody talk politics or salary at work but my friends who are new BSN's seem to expect senior nurses to take care of all matters political. The fact is, senior nurses are EXTREMELY THREATENED by new nurses of any degree. We work cheaper, we take more crap from management and admin cuz we don't know better. And worst of all, they are expected to train their own replacements. Hospitals do let go of senior nurses rather easily. I feel such resentment among older nurses and I sympathize to a point. Newer nurses have more career possibilities, the treatment of nurses is much much better than it was 20 years ago. I've only had a problem with one or two docs but I constantly find senior nurses saying horrible things about me and my coworkers. Senior nurses that have mentored me have had to do so quietly for fear of retribution from their peers. Nursing simply has not caught up to modern standards of professionalism. Nursing hasn't been about making the doc happy or even being afraid of him/her. It is a collaborative sport that is incredibly satisfying when someone gets better, heals. But if the healers are neglected, poorly treated, burned out, uninterested in expanding their own field, well then , everybody suffers. I'm grateful there are more BSN's-if you guys don't lead us who will?
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    What the heck is going on in Portland right now?

    I agree, to get in right out of school the BSN is undeniably an asset. It just seems sad to me that it takes a recession/depression to make any sense out of the BSN. And the salary premiums are like, a buck an hour. That's not a premium, that's literally pocket change to keep BSN R.N.'s from realizing they're getting jipped.Obviously, IMO. In regards to the Kaiser CTICU- HAVE YOU SEEN THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT POSITION??!! OMG! THEY WANT A LETTER OF REFERENCE FROM A CARDIOTHORACIC SURGEON, BSN, IABP, CRRT, 3 YEARS MINIMUM, CCRN. But here's what's messed up about that- they aren't going to pay you ONE RED CENT MORE FOR THAT KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, AND LEVEL OF CERTIFICATION. Sure you'll get the 10K bonus, which will be 5K after taxes but that's it? All those years of learning, stress, studying and your base will be two or three bucks above a new grad on med-surge. Forget it. Honestly, at that level you are expected to know as much as M.D.'s. That is no exaggeration, about half your day is spent arguing with M.D.'s about why their orders are 1) written wrong 2) just plain wrong. I love critical care, I love my time in the I.C.U, and I realize this is a bit off topic but-and it feels great to say this: risk vs. reward- it just aint worth it. I've started a new job at a providence ER, non-trauma. Just helping patients out, learning more and more, and guess what? I realistically am expected to know 50% less than what was required of me on a daily basis in the I.C.U. I never got paid for that knowledge, all I got was more stress, more dead bodies, more sad families and more flak from management. Anytime I would put my foot down, use evidence based research to back up my points some busy body nurse would float by and say"well I have 20 years of experience and maybe your little book says that but I'VE NEVER DONE IT LIKE THAT SO IT'S WRONG." End of discussion. I took a break and now I realize, it just wasn't worth it. Perhaps if my base came out to a 100k a year, maybe it would have been, but frankly, I made as much as med surge nurses who weren't even required to be able to understand a single ecg rhythm, or any ACLS, yet I was required to be able to expertly read a 12 lead ecg! Knowledge is power and I enjoyed what I learned so much, it really was invigorating. In the end, having that knowledge, having NO power and a monster mortgage sucks. Being an elite I.C.U. nurse seems to be more about ego than anything else. Forget about it! Sorry ya'll, my 2 pennies. I have so much less stress in my life and MAKE THE SAME PAY! It just wasn't worth it. Most of you out there are thinking: CRNA. Go for it if the prestige and money are your passion. Nothing wrong with that. But just remember, there are costs. Cheers S
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    What the heck is going on in Portland right now?

    I'm not sure I agree with you, at all. Hospitals don't care one way or another if you have a BSN. They certainly don't pay much more for it. What they want is experience. I appreciate your insight but 1) I've been working in one of the best I.C.U.'s in this wonderful city since August, with an ADN and a decent resume 2) Having been in the medical field for almost 6 years now, a nurse for 15 months, I can say that four year nursing students TRADITIONALLY have less clinical experience than anyone else on the floor. A BSN does not mean you have 4 years of experience. It means you took your undergrad at the same place you got your nursing degree, paid a lot more in loans and if you want, can move into management sooner than me. (enjoy.) I haven't seen an LVN on a hospital floor in three years. Comparing a "two year RN" to a "four year RN" to a "LPN" is nonsensical. While it looks good on a resume you will find that during the interview with the hiring manager it will not get you very far. Oh yeah, the VA is hiring basic RN's, without any experience. I'm still getting calls from kaiser and Providence. frankly pumpkinnutter, the whole BSN thing is kind of a load. Nurses with BSN's have a hard time coming up with reasons as to why they actually need the BSN and they seem incapable of commanding or even asking for more money with it. In fact, BSN grads are the only new nurses who don't talk about money. Why is that? Bad word, money? I think not! Just too professional I guess. The reality is a lot of BSN's have never had a job before. Maybe they worked part time, or volunteered somewhere but the vast majority get their credentials rammed in their face, they are the most easily overworked, and seem utterly incapable of taking themselves seriously. They do gossip a lot though. Cheers S
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    Going to LA-Am I getting scammed?

    Haven't signed yet, thanks for the advice!
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    Going to LA-Am I getting scammed?

    Hey all! I'm about to take my first travel assignment. I will be going to Los Angeles to an I.C.U. They are offering $1500/month for living expenses and $25/hour for pay. $400 for travel costs. Insurance for me and my wife+ son will be $150 every two weeks. They say they don't pay any shift differential. Their logic is bizzare, something like "if you like working nights then why should we pay you more..." really nonsensical. That's their offer. I have a year of experience going in. So-wise travelers, am I getting a good deal or no?
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    Broward General nurse possibly exposed patients to risk

    I just checked the Florida BON. Why is her license still clear and active? I bet her hearing will be in like two years.
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    Comment NOW on the Future of Nursing

    Sounds like another coroprate, capitalist wax job if I ever heard one. Not one note along the line of, "improving salary or addressing specific working conditions that decrease the ability of the very people who make acute care work..." This is a plan to make money by selling crap to hospitals. And like our computerized charting systems that are absolutely useless, ridculous, and impossible to navigate without countless hours of training, we are about to receive more "state of the art" garbage that only makes money for non-medical people.