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What are you thoughts are these companies... high liability for the nurses?

My current insuance NSO doesn't have coverage for corrections... called Proablility and they don't have coverage for corrections any more either... Recently got hired as a corrections RN for a MN county and will be pulled to more then one county jail as well as being on call for more then one county jail... from what I am noticing from researching the internet as well as what I am seeing from working in this position it appears to be a risk of nurses getting drawn into a law suit... really thinking I need to get some type of liability insurance beside what I have. Anyone know of any companies that will cover correctional RNs?

I am an associate degree RN that is currently in that program to obtain a BSN and I haven't been very impressed with it. For the Lpn to Bsn it maybe a good program but for the Rn they don't seem to acknowledge you as an RN nor your past RN work and school experiences. The classes so far have been pretty similar as to what I had taken in my 2 yr rn program. They have 3 classes that supposely can be challenged by RN's but I get the impression they try to discourage people from doing that. I have been told I have to take some general classes that I had taken before. Have been told more then once that some of my past generals from NDSU aren't enough because they aren't jr and sr level classes.. I often feel like I am putting alot of time and effort into these classes for pretty much what I already have had. You would think it would be easy then.. but from my experience it hasn't been easy. I have been working anywheres from 24 to 40 hours or more a wk.. The more hours I work, the harder it is to get the assignments ect.. done... and/or to do well on them and the exams.

lvnbsn2, the lpns are taking classes with the assoc rn for their bsn. This school has a lpn to bsn and a rn to bsn program. Alot of the rn to bsn classes are what the lpn to bsn is taking. Thus you have Assoc rns who have already taken the rn boards and lpns who have to take their rn boards when they are done with the program.

From what I am experiencing you might be better off to do a lpn program and then get into a bsn program from there... Perhaps a one yr lpn program and do the bsn.. I know of alot of people that have a hard time getting into a 4 yr school's bsn program but are able to get in after they completed a lpn program. I don't think I would suggest the assoc degree rn to bsn route.. I have my assoc rn and have been looking for a online rn to bsn program. The ones I have looking at are requiring me to take alot of generals over... stating they aren't enough credits or not high enough level. Saw some syballuses from one school of their nursing classes and it didn't look any different from what I had taken. Asked about challenging some of them and got told that they had some at bs level that one would have in the assoc level..hmmm... interesting too is that at this school they had lpns taking pretty much the same classes for their bsn. Been finding out that what may look like 30 credits is more like 40 or more... ends up being more then 2 yrs.. which after going for 2 yrs for assoc lpn degree and then 1 yr for the assoc rn, I think is it absurbed that you have to take another 2 to 3 on top of that to the bsn...

also wouldn't be bad if the employers were more willing to do the tutition rebursement thing..

Vic Rn, yeah.. this is how i am feeling and I haven't even started the program yet.. just hard to swallow pay for all these classes just so I have an extra edge for more possible job opportunities... now if I was guarrenteed to get a raise that wouldn't be so bad but here I am thinking of taking these classes because it will make me more competitive in getting future jobs.. ugh.. I live a rural area so I perhaps don't necessarily need a bsn but yet I know if there is something that comes up that it is between another person and I that the one with bsn will get it..

It is like that alot of schools are taking advantage of the supposely nursing shortage so they popping with rn programs all over the place... some of them I question if people would even hire a person knowing they are from a business college type of school.. I also get the impression that alot of universities ect.. are seeing the rn to bsn as a opportunity to get money out of person. Wouldn't so bad if they wouldn't try to get one to take a bunch of generals that they have already taken. I have been telling people lately to not even do the associate degree rn program.. been telling them that they are perhaps better with lpn to bsn instead thru a university that has bsn program. Have noticed alot of people have a tough time getting into 4 yr programs so they opt for doing a lpn program first and then are able to get into a bsn program.

Ever notice too, that alot of these online programs such as Kaplan, university of phoenix ect.. that they list on this website and others don't ever just list the infor, they ask you infor.. I did that one time and got a bunch of phone calls from various ones trying to get me to go into their program. I ended up on the phone for 2 hrs with one of them, I think it was university of phoenix, they didn't tell me the cost nor how many credits ect I needed until the end of the phone call.. from what I remember it was 20k for one yr of classes. I was like uffda... they kept calling me to get into their program and I kept telling them I wasn't interested..

houtx, It really makes one feel like they all in it to try to get more money off of a person.. after you start to think of the time and money that it will take to acheive the bsn, you start to think you should have went to med school instead... 5 to 6 yrs to get a bsn? I think that is terrible. Sad thing that alot of these programs make it look like it is only 20, 30 credits over 2 yrs... then you find it is much more then that... really makes me mad... sad thing is that you then start to wonder how you can justify paying that much in loans back for what you are to be earning...

mn nurse, wouldn't be so bad if one hadn't already gotten an associate degree from a 2 yr lpn program and then went another yr to get an associate degree for the RN. I have a total of 3 yrs in. These 2 programs had pre req. If I had known it would require me to take another 2 yrs or more to get the bsn then I would have just tried to get into a bsn program in the first place. Almost want to say that doing a lpn to bsn would take less number of yrs.

Any one else feeling that rn to bsn programs are a scam.. recently have looked into 2 online rn to bsn programs from 2 state universities.. one was 20 nursing credits, the other was 27 credits.. after they went thru my transcripts it ended up being that I needed to take a bunch more of generals.. seems like they try to get more money out of you by making you take more generals.. quite few of these were classes I had already taken, they told me that it wasn't high enough level. It really peveed me off... what I thought would be 1 yr on top of the 3 yrs I have already gone for my associate Rn ends up being another 2 to 3 yrs... what a joke.. I almost get the impression they really want to sock it to the associate degree Rn. Then I noticed that the one program I checked into that you are taking classes lpns who are doing the lpn to bsn program. The syllabus from these classes look very similar to what I have already taken.. when asked if you can challenge the course they tell you that there is stuff covered at the BSN level that you didn't get in the associate program..I am like these lpns are gonna take the same nclex I took and the infor in the classes is infor you need to know to pass the nclex. Any one else experience this or am I the only one that feels this way?

When I work pm shift there is 1 nurse for 35 residents, 2 eight hr cnas and 2 cnas that go home at 730 and 9pm, unit clerk that is there something like 4 to 8. Gets to be a busy shift for I am setting up and passing meds till 5 pm or so, dinner break and then it is passing meds till 7 pm... with cathing residents, feeding tube assessments, ect.. many times it leaves about an hr or so to do charting on a good nite... Nite shift there is 1 nurse and 2 cnas for 35 residents.. At another place I had worked at I had for pm shift a med aide to pass meds.. no unit clerk..same number of cnas, all I can say I sure do appreciate having the med aide.. Nite shift at the other place had 1 nurse and 1 cna for 35 residents... sure do appreciate having the 2nd cna with the first facility mentioned...

I often wonder this because where I am at, I am often wonder if the state is not strict enough with the survey.

I am often disappointed with the activity department where I am at. I feel that they could be doing a lot more then what they are doing. Right now it doesn't appear to be much. I used to work activities in a nursing home in a different state and where I am at now not is not the same.. I often wonder how the home gets by with out getting a deficiency in the activities dept on their surveys. I often wonder that they don't even include that dept in the survey. Many times I will see them doing something with the active, mobile, alert residents and nothing with the inactive, immobile, non-alert residents. So many times when I have worked a pm shift a lot of the residents are in bed sleeping till supper time and then they are gotten up and then when they are done with supper they are put to bed. I often wonder it is no wonder why we get residents at night that aren't sleeping. They spend most of their day in bed, sleeping.