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Lol is that a way of you justify your desire not to get your masters?

Lol...maybe she was assigned it or like the person above said, it may be a way for the poster to pursue research in the field she most curious about.

The FUTURE of nurses will be valued more for their ability to teach, their knowledge of nursing processes as well as their technical knowledge and skills. The FUTURE is already here. We are in the first wave, called Informatics. Nurses who possess the Nursing and Tech skills will be the most successful in the long term. Sidharth101, alot of the nurses from NI programs are narrow minded by the pedagogy they are forced to learn. All Nursing Informatics program just tailor Information Systems programs to the healthcare industry at where it is now. But, it so limiting because they leave out important aspects of Information Systems or tech focused degrees that actually are beneficial like Data Warehousing or other courses. I work on the IT side of my medical center. Not the clinical side of things. The lack of technical preparation and skills from Nurses in the Nursing Informatics field is the reason why I am going to pursue my BSN (They have 1 year programs in my city.) after my BS in Computer Science this upcoming Fall.

Get an IT degree

These aren't assumptions. They are evidence based convictions and facts.

Actually, This is UNTRUE. tech is very expansive. Data Analytics is just Excel gone fancy. But, nonetheless, it could be useful for RNs who are in a management roles or informatics roles. Computer Science is more than just programming; it is about coming up optimal solutions to various real world computational problems. Soon, a baseline understanding of CS will be required for every job. Those without it will be left behind. Those with a solid CS knowledge will be apply their studies to any position or speciality.

You are only specialized in Nursing Informatics with a focus on hiring on EHR related positions. As a Technologist/Engineer, who works at one of the top medical centers in the U.S., I work cross functionally with all departments to assist with their tech needs. Although, I may not be a nurse yet, at my job my colleagues and I see the lack of preparation a degree in Nursing Informatics has. This is constant conversation at work as well. It will not prepare RNs for automation that is slowly but surely permeating their industry. Nursing Informatics applies tech very lightly, where it is only used for data related management. I know for a fact a Nurse with a Computer Science degree is more highly sought because my dear friend, a Director of Nursing, has a Masters degree in Computer Science as well as a BSN degree. She is the one who advised me to go for the one year BSN program after I graduate with my CS degree. DO some research you will soon discover that technology is constantly changing the workforce landscape in such a way, workers will have to adapt to a new set of skills for each technological wave. NOT getting a Computer Science/Tech degree is illogical. The world we live in is revolutionized by technology on a everyday basis. Having a Computer Science or Computer Engineering background allows a RN to ride that wave smoothly, where they have a greater advantage vs. others who don’t have a CS foundation and will have to play catch up or become unemployable. The informatics industry is booming but eventually, that boom will die down and nurses will have to adapt another set of tech skills needed. This why I say Nursing Informatics programs are too limiting. They are only a speck in the giant sea of Technology. Right now, you may be shortlisting and interviewing Nursing Informatics majors. But, I assure that Nursing Informatics will not be prepare nurses for Robotic CNAs which will need to programmed by RNs. Nursing Informatics will not prepare nurses for VR/AR/XR where they will need to develop or support for dying patients. Nursing Informatics will not prepare nurses for embedded sensor networks which will used in Call Systems for more efficient nursing workload. http://ojin.nursingworld.org/MainMenuCategories/ANAMarketplace/ANAPeriodicals/OJIN/TableofContents/Vol-18-2013/No2-May-2013/Impact-of-Emerging-Technology.html I will leave you with this link from the ANA and a quote from there, “The capacity to manage human knowledge, and to convert it into useful products and services, is fast becoming the "critical" leader skill of the age (National Defense University, n.d.). Leadership skills that will be required of nurses to appropriately respond to emerging technologies include being able to use technology to facilitate mobility, communication and relationships; having expertise in knowledge information, acquisition, and distribution; and understanding and using genetics and genomics in nursing (see Table 2 for select examples of these skill sets).” At the end of the day, a nurse’s job is to help people and save lives. Technological advances are making their jobs easier and advancing care for patients. Why not become highly technologically literate/skilled to the point where you can make the greatest impact, get better promotions and make money despite what wave of technology we may be in?

I would not recommend WGU. It's reputation is viewed as a diploma mill with no connection. (Look at the discussion on the boards.) Nursing informatics study tracks are not going to set you apart in the applicant pool nor prepare you fully. Tech is the future. You will see. MOST of these Nursing informatics track nurse will be prepared POORLY for the changes in tech and nursing. Information Systems/Robotics all these things are shaping nursing and these nurses can't code.

Hi, I am graduating from City College soon with a degree in Computer Science. Could you explain more about the application process?

JAG_RN10, I have some questions. Have you ever needed to use programming skills in your line of work? What programming languages are usually used? Why do consulting firms paying more than medical institutions and facilities for RNs with an informatics specialty? Can you share with me a firm by name? I am a Computer Science major and I am looking to pursue a one year BSN at CUNY Lehman College or CUNY Hunter. Columbia University has a Nursing Masters program for students with a non-nursing BS degrees that I am looking at too. I would love your insight on my academic options and how they can help me break into the informatics field. Thank you.

Yes. I don't know any personally. But many have shared their stories online. There was a documentary about this many years ago called College Inc. https://www.pbs.org/video/frontline-college-inc/

I agree. If you do research on what the job entails, Informatics-RNs are a liaison between the clinical(nurses on the front lines) and technical (programmers, developers, report writers) domains in healthcare. That typically manifests in the form of meetings (to identify issues, solutions, build needed, timelines, etc), build/test (where either the liaison or dedicated builders would build & test into the actual system), and a lot of emails that can range from general questions about the system, future enhancements, broken things in the system, etc. As the NI field develops, programming skills are going to be needed more as time passes. Having these programming skills will allow you to liaise seamlessly between the clinical and technical domains. Especially, when working on a project with very tight time constraints. Also, data visualisation, data mining and other data analytical tools are becoming the norm and are slowly making Excel alone obsolete. These tools require programming skills in SQL, Python and R. If you have a BSN already, go for a Masters in Information Systems with an analytics track or Management in Information Systems. It is more useful than just a narrow Masters in Nursing Informatics. Also, stay away from private for-profit institutions; they are usually not looked upon favorably by employers, costly and lack connections to progress in the field you are seeking. Stay in Public University Systems or public local colleges, they are a good ROI.

Nursing Informatics (Technical data and system analysis, retrieval and management within the nursing depts. Liaison between Nurses and the Tech team) Health Informatics (Technical data and system analysis, retrieval and management within the various depts in the hospital, EHR dept usually. Liaison between Healthcare depts and the Tech team)

If you have AND and are looking for an BSN. I would go to reputable school with the lowest cost possible. Unless, the program is not a fit for your schedule. University of Nebraska Medical Center has an RN to BSN. That is legit. It would be a good pick since it is from a medical university. https://www.unmc.edu/nursing/programs/bachelors-bsn/rn-to-bsn-program1/index.html https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-information-science-and-technology/academics/management-information-systems.php https://www.unomaha.edu/college-of-information-science-and-technology/information-systems-and-quantitative-analysis/about/index.php If you do research on what the job entails, Informatics-RNs are a liaison between the clinical(nurses on the front lines) and technical (programmers, developers, report writers) domains in healthcare. That typically manifests in the form of meetings (to identify issues, solutions, build needed, timelines, etc), build/test (where either the liaison or dedicated builders would build & test into the actual system), and a lot of emails that can range from general questions about the system, future enhancements, broken things in the system, etc. If I was in your shoes, I would finish the BSN and then go for a Masters in Management Information Systems that has a focus on Data Analytics. The reason why is because Nursing Informatics can be limiting and since it is a new field, it is changing as it grows in demand. Having a well-rounded background in Tech makes a RN more prepared for the field than just a narrow focus in NI. Watch the videos below. 9:03 video mark - He defines Nursing Informatics as "the gathering of data and statistics." This is why I said, MIS with a focus on Data Analytics. 13:00 video mark- He speaks about skills that are different than Nursing practice skills. He mentions the system development cycle, project management, computer applications such as Excel and Powerpoint, which are usually taught in MIS, CIS, IS programs or provided for free as workshops in College. This is why I said, MIS with a focus on Data Analytics. He says at the 15:23 video mark, that programming skills aren't needed but are HELPFUL. I disagree, as the NI field develops, programming skills are going to be needed more as time passes. Having these programming skills will allow you to liaise seamlessly between the clinical and technical domains. Especially, when working on a project with very tight time constraints. Also, data visualisation, data mining and other data analytical tools are becoming the norm and are slowly making Excel alone obsolete. These tools require programming skills in SQL, Python and R. Technology is shaping the nursing industry in ways we have yet to see and the best way to prepare for those advancements is by observing the changes in tech and merging them into the RN field. Those who adapt will be most valuable to the organization. Just my two cents and a half. I hope this helps and provides clarity.

Chamberlain University Nursing Informatics program is not very good. I have done research for myself and I have read that it is not looked upon favorably and they have no connections to the workforce. Plus, they come off as a sleezy for profit business. They don't post their tuition and the advisor seem like a salesmen not actually people that are trying to provide guidance within one's academic and professional journey. I am looking into CUNY's Nursing Informatics program, which is online as well. But, the CUNY the tuition is low and CUNY has many connections to various medical institutions.