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    Interviewing for New Grad positions during the pandemic

    Yes, I think you are right. I should probably come down from a cloud and face the cold and cruel reality of everyday life. Hoping that a Med-surge/Telemetry residency program would interview me for that specific position without all the other "minor" details is a bit unrealistic in today's world. Probably moving my frame of mind would be a bit more effective to take advantage of the opportunities that I already have around me. I am not sure that somewhere out there people are more different than here.
  2. Just came back from yet another interview for a new grad residency program. Does this sound like kaka that is wrapped in a nicely designed wrap? I had a similar experience a few weeks ago with an interview for ICU position where I was told that they are in need of nurses right now, but in a few month they may not need me in ICU, so I would be transferred to a step down unit. Orientation on ICU was 15 shifts for a new grad. I am feeling that search for a new grad position right now really demands a great deal of personal sacrifice to deal with the mind-blowing conditions that are imposed on the job seeker. If before it was just a 2 year contract and other minor things, now if you want a job, they pretty much own you. I was ready for a 2-3 year contract and working any shifts they saw fit, but the rest of the information was certainly not in the job description and was shared in a very indirect way. Does this even legally go along with "assign additional job responsibilities within your general skill set for capabilities"? --- "We have a modified orientation program. This modified version was implemented at the start of the pandemic. We hired April cohort at the times when everything was changing, so we couldn't support them in terms of precepting them right away. So we did not postpone or cancel that. We created a new nursing support role for them. So they start as a resource nurse on COVID unit or as nursing assistant in other units. We found that they really transitioned easily into RN preceptorship once they had this time to kind of learn culture, the work flow. They had extra time to master they nursing skills working as nursing resource and nursing assistant. Once they started to work into RN preceptorship, they really solidified their pathophys, they are able to being better at recognizing trends, patterns, and connect that data to seeing a full picture for every patient. So instead of being very task focused, which is typical of new grads, they are better critical thinkers." "We are going to continue this model, because we saw how much more confident our new grads after that. They don't have to worry about learning the charting system or learning where all the supplies are, or learning what doctors are taking care of these patients. They already know that stuff before taking on full patient care." "Our April cohort worked for about 3 months in that role, but we will see what October has in terms of the pandemic. It may be shorter than 3 months, but we will communicate with you." "Do you have any questions for us?" "As far as this goes, what is April cohort doing right now?" They are on their preceptorship with their RN. They are doing 2 shifts a week with their preceptor, and 1 shift a week as a resource or CNA role. Because they had that extra time on the units doing patient care, some of our nurse new grad are ready to be off of orientation. ... So 30 shifts of orientation is standard for a new grad? Yes, but as you can see, many people get off earlier because of the time they spent in the alternate role. So we are able to pay them as an RN, even though they are not practicing independently as a RN. You will still be considered a Clinical Nurse I. You will be able to pull meds, work with the nurses on the unit and do some of those skill, but you won't have that pressure of being the primary RN for that patient. I was a new grad here as well, and when we started to change things up, I was like, "I wish I had this!" I would have known where everything was, who was the doctor assigned to my patients. So learning those nitty gritty details and then take full care of the patients... The difference between the April cohort and January cohort is big."
  3. I think I got it. So what they really meant to say is, "We are interested in talking to you about a position at our facility. We are sending you this email to see if you are actually still interested, so we don't make extra effort of calling the person who is no longer interested. If you are still interested, pleased be ready to hear from us anytime regardless of your availability." Similar strategy as with verbal offers and actual offer letters that are written after the person expressed his/her interest.
  4. In my previous interviews, most of the screening calls from recruiters came without notice. They just left a voice message saying that they want to talk to me about available position at their facility. When I was available, I would answer the phone call and the person would ask if right now is a good time to talk. Some just sent emails to schedule an interview. In the past week I got a few emails form recruiters that want to schedule a phone call at the time that would be good for me. “I have received your application and am interested in discussing a possible position here at _______. Please let me know when is a good time to call you.” “Thanks for applying for _______. Please tell me a good time for us to speak.” etc. I usually respond by saying the following: “The best time to reach me tomorrow is between 9:00 AM and 12:00 PM. Please let me know if that works for you. My phone number is ________.” The first recruiter simply did not call. The other recruiter sent me an email on the day when phone call was scheduled saying, “I will call you later today.” It takes a good chunk of time for me to prepare for a conversation with a recruiter from a specific hospital, plus I have to put everything on hold and wait for that phone call. So I sent an email back to the second recruiter restating that my availability is limited. “My availability is extremely limited today. I appreciate the opportunity to talk about ________ position with your organization and would like to schedule a specific time when both of us will be available. Please let me know if 09:00 AM - 09:30 AM tomorrow will work for you. Thank you for your interest in me as a potential candidate.” The person responds, “Yes, it works, will call you then.” Again, I put everything on hold and wait for a phone call, and again the person simply doesn’t call at the scheduled time. Is this a common thing in the days of cell phones when you are expected to be available whenever it is convenient for another person, and the formalities of setting up a time to call don’t really mean anything? I have another recruiter that sent me a similar email yesterday, and based on my previous experiences I simply don’t know what to expect and how to respond.
  5. I am a new-grad who is located in SoCal area. I have been applying to out-of-state jobs and very recently received a phone call from a recruiter. It seemed like most of the questions were focused on relocation rather than on the residency program and why I am a good candidate for them. I was completely unprepared for this part, so I had to make things up on the go. Do you know anything about the area you are planning to relocate to? Why are you planning to relocate to ______? Things were going alright until I asked if their residency program has a contract. A lot of programs do, and I would like to know from the start what I am getting myself into. It was like I flipped a switch. Right away the person became skeptical and went on to ask about my goals for the next 5 years and if I was planning to relocate to California any time in the future. I know that there are a lot of nurses who have relocated in the past for RN residency programs and for other reasons. What do you tell the recruiter? What do they want to hear? How do you explain your reasons for relocation in such a way that it either sounds neutral or of benefit to them? Thanks
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    Alarming conditions of a job offer letter

    I wonder where I would be now if I have accepted that offer? About a week from the time I decline the offer I had another interview at a bigger hospital that had a well structured residency program that lasts one year. After going through all the interviews, I was notified by HR a week ago that the residency program start date will have to be moved to some day in the future due to current situation. I've read many posts on hiring freeze and closure of residency programs for new grads. They mentioned that they will keep in touch when they determine the starting date, if I am still interested at that time. No one knows how long all of this is going to last, and it has been already 1 year and four months since my graduation. I really don't want to end up being 2 years out of school with no work experience and blame it all on COVID-19. I live in Los Angeles, California, one of the major epicenters. I have been reading that hospitals are too busy to train any new grads now. They are more interested in experienced nurses who can be cross trained and retired nurses with experience who can catch up quickly. Is the situation the same in all states? If I am willing to relocate to other regions of the country, will I find more opportunities there? I feel that I can either sit and wait for things to get better and for residency program to reopen, or I can start looking for other opportunities in locations that offer them. Amazing how things can change in just several weeks.
  7. Student.

    Alarming conditions of a job offer letter

    Maybe your right. I will consider night shifts in the future. It looks like it will be easier to come across, especially as a new grad. Better than just waiting for an ideal job.
  8. I just received a job offer letter from a potential employer. It states the basics, such as department I will be working for, who I am going to be reporting to, introductory period length, hourly wage, overtime time pay rate, etc. At the end it say the following: "....... reserves the right at any time, with or without notice, to alter or change job responsibilities, compensation, incentive plan, reassign or transfer job position or assign additional job responsibilities within your general skill set for capabilities. ... The Company reserves the right to change or modify the terms and conditions of any base compensation or incentive plan at any time. ..." I am a new grad nurse and this will be my first nursing job. The statement sounds pretty alarming to me and I am a bit hesitant to sign that letter with these sort of conditions. To me it reads that nothing is set in stone. They may change my hourly rate, benefits, put me in any department they see fit at any time they please. I would appreciate any advice from experienced nursing community on this sort of conditions. Is this common for employers to do this?
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    Ohio University RN-to-BSN Program

    @sillymu 600 words minimum for written assignments, 200 words minimum for discussion posts, and 100 words minimum for discussion posts responses
  10. Student.

    Ohio University RN-to-BSN Program

    Hi LearningLifeLongRN, I like the program and the pace at which I am going. I started in May and already getting close to completing 4 nursing classes. I take 2 nursing classes per 5-week session. It certainly keeps me busy most of the days. If I was working full-time, then I would certainly think twice before taking 2 nursing courses concurrently. It can be a bit time consuming, especially if you are starting out. They allow you to work ahead. I usually try to stay one week ahead of the schedule. The last week of each session is shorter than the rest, so they really encourage you to complete work ahead of time. If you can afford to take 2 classes each session, you can finish the program very quickly even if you are taking additional classes required to graduate. I found that I my local college offers some of the classes over summer break, so I am taking them online there. As with all the classes, there are those that require more work than others. NRSE 4510 and NRSE 4570 required a lot of my time, considering I was still getting used to APA format and online classes. Once you get the process, it becomes much easier. I use Perla for APA format, and it has helped me tremendously to speed up the editing process. Once I have the paper written and typed, it takes me around 15 minutes to format it. They are pretty strict on APA format, and not so much on what you write. TAs are helpful, and respond quickly to your questions. My program advisor is also very quick to respond to my questions and requests.
  11. Hello everyone, I am currently a resident of Los Angeles County, California. Ohio University requires California licensed RN residing in California to take online Public Health Nursing Clinical which includes 90 clinical hours with a BSN prepared nurse. I contacted Los Angeles Department of Health Services regarding a request to establish an affiliation agreement with them. They responded by saying that they have affiliation agreements with 10 local universities, and only accept nursing students from them for their Community/Public Health Nursing practicum. I have also emailed five other counties, and expecting an email from them some time next week. I am wondering how other students that live and practice in California fulfilled this requirement of the program and the process they went through. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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    Ohio University RN-to-BSN Program

    Hi everyone, I am planning to start OU RN-BSN program, and was wondering what is the best way to plan the program if I am going to take 2 classes at the same time. Are there harder classes that will require more effort than others and it is advised to take them individually? Which classes need to be taken first? If there is no strict requirement, what would be a good idea to take first? Thank you!
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