Post-op ortho patient case

Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN · Apr 3, 2012

there are many things that go into the decision making process. how old is the patient. what comorbidities exist. what are the baseline pre-op vitals. what was the ebl in the or.

i am a little concerned about the b/p being low as, for me, the patient is showing symptoms of hypotension (low blood pressure (hypotension): symptoms - mayoclinic.com) from possible hypovolemia (low circulating blood volume) mixed with the vasodilation caused by the morphine. the shivering then would be caused by the bodies attempt to maintain adequate b/p by shivering causing vasoconstriction and skeletal muscle activation.....in a fight flight auto-regulation mechanism. true post op shivering that is caused by anesthesia is in the immediate emergence(recovery) phase from anesthesia.

now the patient may have just been having a fight flight response because you just inserted a tube into the most sensitive part of the anatomy on the male body, causing that response and intense fear and catecholamine release causing the shivering, shallow breathing. http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/cellcom/play-by-play.pdf as well as vagal response, fear response from the insertion of the foley, draining of a liter of urine from the bladder or having a full bladder and vagal from pain alone.

what are the treatment options for post-operative shivering?

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[color=#6611cc]postanesthetic shivering

if the patient is a normal healthy male aged 20-40, i would have been concerned about the low b/p and my concern would have been hypovolemia. he did have almost a liter of urine in his badder, so true hypovolemia was an unlikely cause. the shivering is very real, however, i would make sure the patient is pain free, give warm blankets, reassure the patient they are fine and remind them that narcotics can cause dizziness. i would monitor the patient closely for u/o and vitals to be sure they are not in need of volume. :)

nurseprnRN, BSN, RN · Apr 3, 2012

fresh postop shivering is almost always because of hypothermia. imagine lying with a good bit of your fresh meat exposed to an air-conditioned room for an hour or two, having absorbed a few liters of room-temp (cold room temp) fluids and having had your exposed fresh meat irrigated with room temperature (cold) fluids. you are inhaling room-temperature (cold) gases. you were npo with no caloric intake to speak of for hours before all this cold stress. you are going to be cold. because your body was normothermic when it went to sleep and woke up to hypothermia, it's going to try hard to get warm, and will shiver as soon as it is allowed to, i.e., when the anesthetics wear off enough. there are also some anesthesia agents that promote shivering, but that's not it for this man, i'll bet. didn't anyone take his temp?

hypothermia can make you hypotensive because your regulatory system isn't designed to work so well when it's cold. he may not be able to generate a better reponse if his contractility is low and his vascular constriction isn't working effectively. hypothermia also drives the circulation centrally, away from the periphery, so you get hypovolemia from elevated urine output easily.

vasovagal causes a low heart rate, and that makes people feel faint; i don't see pulse rate mentioned here. also, a cool cloth to the face will make him colder.

next time you know you're getting a fresh postop, toss some blankets in the warmer, make some warm packs to put around the hands and feet. have a good thermometer ready to take the temp, and if it reads a lot lower than you thought, believe it. note all the constellation of vital signs.flip through the chart and take a quick look at the anesthesia record and the pacu record--they will tell you temp, iv fluids given, and anything else that happened during anesthesia. if you don't have a protocol to warm iv fluids for hypothermic patients, see if you can get anesthesia to help you write one. watch for hypovolemia-- bp& p, u/o.

Long Term Care Columnist / Guide · Apr 4, 2012

Same thing happened to my 65-year-old sister the night after her total hip replacement surgery. She had about 800 mL post-void residual and had to have a Foley reinserted; yet she was hypovolemic with a B/P of 80/40, cold, shivery, and VERY disoriented. She had to have a unit of blood transfused, which perked her up a little.

However, this is not at all unusual for post-op THRs; in fact, when I worked Med/Surg this happened quite frequently and we did a lot of transfusions. The total knee patients had it a little easier, as they routinely had the cell-saver apparatus attached when they came up to the floor from PACU and we would reinfuse the collected blood. They seldom had the issues with hemodynamic instability the hip patients did, but then, the hip patients generally had somewhat less pain and stiffness than the knee patients and no CPM to hassle with. :)