PHilippine NCLEX

lawrence01 · Aug 25, 2007

I think i made some mistake in this regard.
Someone adviced me prior to sending my papers for nclex application that i should have a signature that has all the letters in my name. so i created a signature specifically for nclex, disregarding my usual signature. The thing is, i have forgotten the signature I created specifically for this. Will they compare the signature in the nclex application and the passport signature? And if they see that they are not the same, would they prohibit me from taking the exam?
Thanks in advance.

Although, I am not sure if they will compare it but if they do then they may either prohibit you from taking it or disregard the test if it was only found out afterwards. This is the very soon for the signatures anyway and for identity protection, to make sure no one will proxy for the actual applicant. And you will be signing-in your signature again on an electric pad or whatever they call it and take your digital picture before they let you in.

All of the above are measures to make sure that the one who applied and the one taking it are one and the same person. It will be up to them to decide. If the points of errors and discrepancy are too great then they may just either prohibit you outright depending on the discretion of the one in charge (he or she is trained to spot it - that is his or her main job and not just a front desk officer) or it may come later on after the exams, if somehow the on-the spot signing-in and digital pic taken on the test center was later found out to not match those with the application form with the State BON/BRN or has points of discrepancy.

And another thing that some are not aware of is that the e-mail add. provided in the application form from the State BON must also match the e-mail add. provided on the on-line Pearson-Vue registration form. This may not be enough on it's own but this is an example of a point of discrepancy and as more errors like this are committed and pile up then the greater the likelihood of suspicion of identity fraud and use of proxy, whether it is intentional or just pure carelessness.

Remember, they don't accept applicants that only signs their passports on the day of the exam - that's how strict they are.

In my opinion, for those who gave a diff. signature on their application form and could not remember it anymore will just have to sign-in w/ their usual signature henceforth rather than trying to remember it then signing-in another variation of the signature that is diff. from the application, diff. from the on the spot signing-in and diff. from his usual signature. This just gives more points of discrepancies. Some are more forgiving if they compare one w/ just a printed name and one with the usual signature.

john83, BSN, RN · Aug 25, 2007

I believe the confusion on signatures come from the "CGFNS experience" or the famous line, "SIGN ENTIRE NAME"(maybe present in some other documents/forms, not just CGFNS) . Unless such is being asked, sign with your usual signature, the one which you really use like in the passport.

great_jaspah · Aug 25, 2007

Although, I am not sure if they will compare it but if they do then they may either prohibit you from taking it or disregard the test if it was only found out afterwards. This is the very soon for the signatures anyway and for identity protection, to make sure no one will proxy for the actual applicant. And you will be signing-in your signature again on an electric pad or whatever they call it and take your digital picture before they let you in.
All of the above are measures to make sure that the one who applied and the one taking it are one and the same person. It will up to them to decide. If the points of errors and discrepancy are too great then they may just either prohibit you outright depending on the discretion of the one in charge (he or she is trained to spot it - that is his or her main job and not just a front desk officer) or it may come later on after the exams, if somehow the on-the spot signing-in and digital pic taken on the test center was later found out to not match those with his application form with the State BON/BRN or has points of discrepancy.
And another thing that some are not aware of is that the e-mail add. provided in the application form from the State BON must also match the e-mail add. provided on the on-line Pearson-Vue registration form. This may not be enough as it is but this is an example of a point of discrepancy and as more errors like this are committed and pile up then the greater the likelihood of suspicion of identity fraud and use of proxy, whether it is intentional or just pure carelessness.
Remember, they don't accept applicants that only signs their passports on the day of the exam - that's how strict they are.
In my opinion, for those who gave a diff. signature on their application form and could not remember it anymore will just have to sign-in w/ their usual signature henceforth rather than trying to remember it then signing-in another variation of the signature that is diff. from the application, diff. from the on the spot signing-in and diff. from his usual signature. This just gives more points of discrepancies. Some are more forgiving if they compare one w/ just a printed name and one with the usual signature.

Okay, to make it clear, you are advising that i sign with with my usual signature? Actually, i believe i haven't signed my passport yet as i was having second thoughts to sign with my usual or with my "application signature."

great_jaspah · Aug 25, 2007

I believe the confusion on signatures come from the "CGFNS experience" or the famous line, "SIGN ENTIRE NAME"(maybe present in some other documents/forms, not just CGFNS) . Unless such is being asked, sign with your usual signature, the one which you really use like in the passport.

I havent taken the CG yet. Through your post, i just realized that the one who advised that i sign with my entire name DID take the CGFNS. Tsk. As if reviewing for the exam is not enough to cause worries... :uhoh3: :trout:

velvet.drops · Aug 25, 2007

okey.. thank you for the clarifications:)

lawrence01 · Aug 25, 2007

Okay, to make it clear, you are advising that i sign with with my usual signature? Actually, i believe i haven't signed my passport yet as i was having second thoughts to sign with my usual or with my "application signature."

This is because you mentioned you don't remember what's your "application signature". The way I see it, there's really not much choice on your part but to sign-in w/ your normal or usual signature, otherwise you will be creating another signature w/c was the cause of your problems in the 1st place.

It's your call on what to do. It's just a suggestion or an advice but signing-in w/ your usual signature can't be a guarantee of anything as well, it's just that coming up w/ another one will just make it worse. It's still their call on what to do and no matter what you do anyway, your "application signature" will be different to the signature you choose to sign-in w/ your passport and on the on-the-spot signing-in. The damage has been done and attempting to replicate your "application signature" w/c you can't will just make it worse as it is. What if they will ask you to present another valid ID (w/c has your usual signature already) for comparison. Just imagine, on what will happen. You will now have 3 diff. signatures and like I said people are more forgiving if the other one was a printed full name and the other is the usual signature. It's a common occurrence but with 3 totally different signatures, they might suspect otherwise.

dave787 · Aug 25, 2007

they will only compare the signature u had in your passport and the signature specimen they ask you during the registration.

lawrence01 · Aug 25, 2007

they will only compare the signature u had in your passport and the signature specimen they ask you during the registration.

Yes, that's true but you forget that they will be sending the digital pic and your signature taken on the on-site registration in the test center together with the results back to the State BON. That's why I mentioned that it may be prohibitive (depending on the discretion of the proctor) or it may come later on when everything was forwarded to the State BON. Better safe than sorry.

Anyway, it is up to Pearson-Vue, NCSBN and the State BON on what to do and up to the applicant on what he or she wishes to do. Just pointing out that there are layers of protection from pre to post-examinaton and that having taken the exam is not a guarantee that security measures ends there.

Even artifacts spotted w/ the applicant while in the examination room even though it was spotted even before the start of exam is reported to both the State BON and NCSBN. Since it was spotted before the exam, the proctor will allow the applicant to continue but they will still send an incident report back to both NCSBN and the State BON and it will be up to them on what to do. They may invalidate the exam or not, it depends.

dave787 · Aug 26, 2007

guys comapre to CGFNS they ask your signature in a form of complete name only in the ID form you submitted but during the registration they will aks you the signature you used eversince. and please it is VERY IMPORTANT to have a consistent signature.

john83, BSN, RN · Aug 28, 2007

I havent taken the CG yet. Through your post, i just realized that the one who advised that i sign with my entire name DID take the CGFNS. Tsk. As if reviewing for the exam is not enough to cause worries... :trout:

CGFNS offers a lot of services, CP(the one with the nursing exam) is just one. Yup, you can say that again.

Actually, there are some things "not thoroughly cleared" even with the latest 2007 update of their handbooks hence, some problems are seen even at the handbook/instruction level...I noticed the same with the IL BON NCLEX-RN application(I don't know with other states).

I don't know if they'd want to do something about it, but nevertheless, we all must abide whatever is stated there(if you are not sure about what to do, better contact them through snail mail, phone, email or web support).

great_jaspah · Aug 28, 2007

CGFNS offers a lot of services, CP(the one with the nursing exam) is just one. Yup, you can say that again.
Actually, there are some things "not thoroughly cleared" even with the latest 2007 update of their handbooks hence, some problems are seen even at the handbook/instruction level...I noticed the same with the IL BON NCLEX-RN application(I don't with other states).
I don't know if they'd want to do something about it, but nevertheless, we all must abide whatever is stated there(if you are not sure about what to do, better contact them through snail mail, phone, email or web support).

i will do so. thanks john83 and you all, it is very much appreciated.

lawrence01 · Aug 28, 2007

Just want to add a few more things to what john83 has already said.

CGFNS' rules and policies are solely for the services they render, so if one is applying for US RN licensure and taking the NCLEX, you follow the State BON's rules and policies and every party's rules and policies involved intaking the NCLEX such as Pearson-Vue and NCSBN. CGFNS' policies has nothing to do w/ NCLEX and it's rules cannot be used with it. In addition, each State BON also has their own rules and policies so they will also slightly differ from each other.