+PEth in WHPS? with a job?

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Hi all, I have been working a clinic job for a few months. No issues and overall sobriety has been going very well. However, 5 days ago on a Saturday evening I got drunk with a few friends to celebrate my birthday. I felt terrible about it and sobered up after, have not drank since. Today selected for a PEth test. I informed my case manager of my relapse over this last weekend. She hasn't responded yet. What are the consequences here? Will my WHPS case manager take my job away? I really expect this test will be positive today. If it is, I am not sure what is going to happen. Any experience here? Positive alcohol test when having a job? Thanks. (Don't need to be reprimanded; my sponsor aready managed that and I snitched on myself and was kicked out of my sober house.)

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Honestly, if it was one drink 5 days ago, it may not even produce a positive result. As far as punishment, I'm not sure what they will do, exactly, because I wasn't in a Diversion program, but I had folks in my group that were. I imagine they will add time to your overall program and may have you refrain from working for a short period of time. They will also likely have you write a statement. Don't beat yourself up over this as we all have relapses. Not really sure how I feel about your sponsor "reprimanding" you, either, as if they've never had a slip up. It happens. We are all human. Forgive yourself, learn from this, move on. You are not alone and please reach out if you need someone to vent to or talk to. I will certainly not reprimand you. Ridiculous. 

As stated above, your test may have been negative.  Hopefully thus doesn't happen again but if it does I wouldn't tell on yourself in the future. 

At best you're looking at more time. 

Good luck 

LMRN2003 said:

Honestly, if it was one drink 5 days ago, it may not even produce a positive result. As far as punishment, I'm not sure what they will do, exactly, because I wasn't in a Diversion program, but I had folks in my group that were. I imagine they will add time to your overall program and may have you refrain from working for a short period of time. They will also likely have you write a statement. Don't beat yourself up over this as we all have relapses. Not really sure how I feel about your sponsor "reprimanding" you, either, as if they've never had a slip up. It happens. We are all human. Forgive yourself, learn from this, move on. You are not alone and please reach out if you need someone to vent to or talk to. I will certainly not reprimand you. Ridiculous. 

 

Healer555 said:

As stated above, your test may have been negative.  Hopefully thus doesn't happen again but if it does I wouldn't tell on yourself in the future. 

At best you're looking at more time. 

Good luck 

OP says "5 days ago" they got drunk and they got selected for a Peth test.  A peth test is positive after 5 days still, if you "got drunk."   A peth test is only negative immediately if you have not drank in 4 weeks AND you drink probably less than 3-4 standard drinks.  Otherwise, a peth is VERY sensitive and remains positive for over a week if you drink more than 4-5 drinks.

Universe93B said:

 

OP says "5 days ago" they got drunk and they got selected for a Peth test.  A peth test is positive after 5 days still, if you "got drunk."   A peth test is only negative immediately if you have not drank in 4 weeks AND you drink probably less than 3-4 standard drinks.  Otherwise, a peth is VERY sensitive and remains positive for over a week if you drink more than 4-5 drinks.

Not always. If it is 1 or 2 drinks. Not all of us drink a ton and get drunk. Depends on the person 

Specializes in NP, Former Legal Nurse Consultant.

I wish you all of the best, but if you got drunk 5 days ago, sobriety is actually Not going well. Sobriety means not drinking and.......you just drank? You could argue that sobriety WAS going well, but present tense that "it's going well" might not be the best choice. If you drank enough to get drunk and you have a Peth within 10 days of that timeframe, its highly likely you will test positive but not guaranteed.

As for your sponsor reprimanding you, that's a good thing. Keep your sponsor! This person knows what they are doing. They did the right thing by recovery standards. As for one poster stating concerns about whether or not your sponsor has ever slipped as a reason for him pr her to not reprimand you is of Zero Concern to you. With recovery, you do you. You don't worry about whether or not your sponsor has ever slipped. Also, if your sponsor did ever slip, hopefully their sponsor reprimanded them also. As for us, "all being human," yes we are, bit being 100 percent human has zero meaning regarding an alcoholic who chooses to keep drinking WITHOUT a reprimand from your sponsor. Because your sponsor thankfully Is Human is and was the reason for the deserved reprimand.

Understand a reprimand by a sponsor is not a reprimand to You, (the person). It's a reprimand to your behavior which is different from You as the whole person. We don't judge People (the whole person). We absolutely Do and should judge, the Behavior done by people. That's called sponsorship and recovery and it's why you are in a monitoring program. It's not so much about You, but it absolutely is about past Behavior by you (which is not the whole person). There's a difference here. Before we use statements like "don't judge," it's important yo keep in mind that we shouldn't judge the person as a whole, but judging behavior is a good thing. We have people in Americs called Judges and we have prisons for criminal behavior. When I went 105 in a 55 mph zone, me telling the police officer to "Not judge Me" doesn't work well. When I said this to him, he told me I'm not judging you as you seem like a nice person, but you ALSO just went 105 in a 55 and I just judged on the spot that you were speeding and here is your ticket. My point is....your sponsors reprimand to you isn't about You the whole person, but it absolutely is about your behavior to choose to drink.

If your test is Positive, your time will be extended. That's nearly automatic. I hope your test was negative and that you are back on the sobriety train and do well. It'd likely you get at least an additional year or morale. Why? The fact that you are/were living in a sober living home and chose to drink relays to the BON and your monitoring program that you can't control drinking even when the consequences of doing so could be disastrous (such as you now getting kicked out of your sober living home). Rightfully or wrongfully, that tells them, you need much more monitoring time. I hope you don't get any additional time and had a negative test, but I have to be honest, it sounds like you actually do have lots of recovery work to do.

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