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Ok here is a theory about why nurses are so negative to each other especially their young.

It is a viscious cycle. It started with the nuns who used to teach nursing. Anyone who has had experience with a parochial school (raising hand) can testify that nuns can be really brutal. Not ALL but enough. Anyway, way back when they traumatized the new nurses so badly that when it came time for them to help train in the new nurses they essentially were like either "this is how you do it for the nurses own good" or "this is payback time" ie now I can ruin someone else like I was ruined ie take away all their starry eyed idealogical ideas/attitude.

I think it was so effective because it is often done under the guise of making someone feel like if they don't put up with the harsh discipline they are going to end up "killing" someone. Nurses are SO catty about even a slight med error. Some act like OH MY GOD you almost killed someone even if you didn't.

All nurses biggest fear is that they will hurt someone on the job. Thus a huge undertow to the vicious cycle is the fear all new nurses have about making a serious mistake. When they inevitably do make a mistake because they are human they are treated horribly and made to feel like you are a "DANGEROUS" nurse. Even though the "punishers" themselves have made maybe worse mistakes.

There is a huge shaming subculture in nursing and the only reason it perpetuates I think is because it is all under the guise of "protecting patients". But patients are not protected because downtrodden nurses are MORE likely to make mistakes.

Nurse are human and they WILL err. It is time to quit shaming them for being human.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Well I have to agree: this is a good part of the problem we have in nursing. Tattle and shaming sure don't do squat to build morale. But this is just the tip of the iceberg. it' s only PART of the reason nurses with YEARS of experience are voting out...

with their feet.

sad.

Specializes in MICU, neuro, orthotrauma.
Originally posted by bluenurse

Ok here is a theory about why nurses are so negative to each other especially their young.

It is a viscious cycle. It started with the nuns who used to teach nursing. Anyone who has had experience with a parochial school (raising hand) can testify that nuns can be really brutal. Not ALL but enough. Anyway, way back when they traumatized the new nurses so badly that when it came time for them to help train in the new nurses they essentially were like either "this is how you do it for the nurses own good" or "this is payback time" ie now I can ruin someone else like I was ruined ie take away all their starry eyed idealogical ideas/attitude.

I think it was so effective because it is often done under the guise of making someone feel like if they don't put up with the harsh discipline they are going to end up "killing" someone. Nurses are SO catty about even a slight med error. Some act like OH MY GOD you almost killed someone even if you didn't.

All nurses biggest fear is that they will hurt someone on the job. Thus a huge undertow to the vicious cycle is the fear all new nurses have about making a serious mistake. When they inevitably do make a mistake because they are human they are treated horribly and made to feel like you are a "DANGEROUS" nurse. Even though the "punishers" themselves have made maybe worse mistakes.

There is a huge shaming subculture in nursing and the only reason it perpetuates I think is because it is all under the guise of "protecting patients". But patients are not protected because downtrodden nurses are MORE likely to make mistakes.

Nurse are human and they WILL err. It is time to quit shaming them for being human.

My preceptors have been great. Most of my nursing instructors, as well. I might just have it really great where I am, but I haven't encountered any big problems.

I have seen nurses tear apart a student who is lazy. And I can't say that I don't approve. I do. I don't want to be stuck working with lazy nurses. Bad for the patient and bad for everyone else, as well.

As in all professions, there are all kinds of people. Blanket statements don't serve any of us well.

Regarding the thought that physicians don't stab each other in the back . . . well, one way I have seen "some" physicians get back at each other is when they cover for each others patients on weekends or holidays or vacation time. If one particular physician does not like the other, he will make comments in the progress notes about how a patient needs to be cared for in a different manner. And start a whole new regimen of care for the patient. Or if they see another physician's patient in the ER, they may make note of how the primary physician may have missed something.

This does not happen with all physicians.

I do find nurses who are so very unhappy that they hunt and hunt for whatever little error they can find and write it up without ever talking with the nurse first. But this is not something that happens with all nurses.

I do work with great nurses who understand the concept of "teamwork" and agree that we are not perfect, that we have all messed up at one time or another.

I venture to say you could find the same in any profession.

steph

Although the issue of how nurses haver a tendency to treat each other in such a poor manner (percieved or otherwise) in the nursing "profession" is nothing new....the question I pose is - What are we actively doing to change that?

:o

WHen I first started reading this I thought it was going to be about paying back some nasty nun who traumatized you as a child!

I actually went to catholic school all my life and my first job out of high school was in a nursing home for retired nuns! The thought of pay back did cross my mind....;)

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