Patient Abandoment?

Specialties Med-Surg

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Okay here is a senario:

On our Med/Surg floor it is normal to have 7-9 patients (yeah crazy), but whatever. So let's say you have eight patients...it's you and a nurse RIGHT out of orientation on the floor. You have no tech, you have no secretary. Your have many a nursing home patients that have to be turned, changed, ect. You are basically having to help the new nurse with all of her duties, ect. You have a patient's vital signs that are acutely changing for the worse. ER calls and is trying to send you a 9th patient. There is literally no way you can take the patient at the moment. You tell ER they will have to call back in an hour or so until you get a chance to settle down. Well ER calls the house supervisor. The house supervisor comes up and tells you to take the patient or he will take your badge, you will go home, and you will not work at the hospital anymore.

A) You take the patient knowing that you are never going to be able to do an assessment in an hour, your 10pm meds are now over 4 hours late. You haven't even begun to think of taking your 12am vital signs and everyone else is needing pain meds, nausea meds, dressing changes, colosotomy changes, ect.

B.) You don't take the patient. The H.S. takes your badge and makes you leave the hospital. Is this considered patient abadonment if you are forced to leave?

It was a bad night, I ended up taking the 9th patient (pancreatitis with pain meds q 2 hours...). I was 1120am leaving that morning, and THAT was pushing some of my work off on the day shift (which I refuse to do under normal circumstances because I don't like it being done to me.). So what would you have done? :twocents:

JBizzleRN,

Are you still going to work there?

Specializes in ICU.

Why yes, I am still working there. Mainly that I am under contract with them until June of next year. It's the same situation all over again... had 8 patients... had to give six units of FFP, two units of PRBCs, trach patient that had to be suctions every hour, pt in 4 point restraints, pt going through DTs...all fun times I assure you. All of this while working with a restricted nurse so I was having to give all of my narcotics on top of hers too. We had no secretary, so we were having to put our own orders in. So that was just fun let me tell you.. I mean seriously I expect to have bad nights, but bad nights...every freaking night, seriously?

So I have called the HR to see how much I would owe if I quit. They would not tell me. They said I have to put in my resignation before they would give me an amount I owe. I mean I really would like to know how much I would owe before I quit.

Why yes, I am still working there. Mainly that I am under contract with them until June of next year. It's the same situation all over again... had 8 patients... had to give six units of FFP, two units of PRBCs, trach patient that had to be suctions every hour, pt in 4 point restraints, pt going through DTs...all fun times I assure you. All of this while working with a restricted nurse so I was having to give all of my narcotics on top of hers too. We had no secretary, so we were having to put our own orders in. So that was just fun let me tell you.. I mean seriously I expect to have bad nights, but bad nights...every freaking night, seriously?

So I have called the HR to see how much I would owe if I quit. They would not tell me. They said I have to put in my resignation before they would give me an amount I owe. I mean I really would like to know how much I would owe before I quit.

i would check with a lawyer, to see if they can deny you that information...

Specializes in ICU.

If I can just tough it out for a few more months I'll be fine. I look at it this way, if I can survive here I can probably survive at any hospital haha. And then I just think about moving off the Med/Surg floor to a telemetry floor or the ICU. All of the float nurses I work with tell us that our floor is the worst to work on in the hospital anyway.

Specializes in Management, Emergency, Psych, Med Surg.

First of all, if they ask you to leave it is not abandonment. However, you have a bigger problem here. The load you are being asked to take is way too large and is very unsafe. You need to get out of there. If I was in your place I would make a formal complaint to the state board of health and JCAHO. Send them copy of assignment sheets along with information (not names) of the types of patients you were assigned to care for. You are responsible for the care you give, no matter what your assignment. They are setting you up for failure. Get out of there ASAP. By the way, what state are you in and are you working for a for profit hospital or a public hospital? Diane

Specializes in Management, Emergency, Psych, Med Surg.

I also agree with ILUVIT. You have to place some of the responsibility back to the supervisor (thus administration) to help you out. Her suggestion is a great one. I work on a 34 bed med surg unit with the same kind of patients you describe. I am the charge nurse on 3-11. I won't work without a secretary and I won't allow my nurses to carry more than 5 patients each. Period. The supervisors know that I know the law and the rules and they do not fool with me. I try my best to assist them at all times with the flow of patients and get the patients out of the ED as quick as we can but I am not going to place one of the nurses at risk of making an error by having a too heavy load. Part of my job is to protect both the staff and the patients. Diane

Specializes in ICU.

In southern Mississippi at a public hospital. Yeah it does suck more than I can even say..

Your story is crazy. I work in Oregon, and there is no way that would happen at my hospital. Our nurses union would immediately take action. And if u would have left, who would have taken your place, the supervisor?! This kind of stuff makes me angry. It is very unjust and should not be allowed. I hope it gets better for you and the other nurses in your hospital.

Does your state have safe harbor....I would check it out and file it every single nite. Its not worth your license or the pts lives that are at stake in the situations your placed in to stay there no matter how much you owe.

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