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goofylucy goofylucy (New) New

Specializes in Hospice, LTC, Home Health. Has 6 years experience.

I recently graduated from nursing school( May 03, 2003)- We were all very aware of the very poor education we were receiving-Which is really sad considering we attended a private baptist university. Our instructors treated us as if they were blessing us with their ability to read from a nursing text-This whole nursing school experience was horrible-I constantly questioned why any of us were paying to be abused-These instructor's were anything but christian. Such condescending attitudes-if we questioned any of the tests we were considered to be trouble maker's-How dare the low little nursing student question the knowledge of these instructor's. I do feel very badly for my fellow students that did not pass boards the first time but I do hope the Alabama Board of Nursing takes a long hard look at that entire program. We graduated in the ADN program but we were never required to take pharmacology and we did not have a practicum(I cannot find another ADN program that is lacking those two items) I would be interested in hearing from any other recently graduated R.N.'s in Alabama to see if this is common practice of the ADN programs here? :confused:

memphispanda, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg.

When you say you didn't have a practicum, what exactly do you mean? I do know some schools don't have pharm as a separate class but have it sort of integrated into the rest of the curriculum.

Sorry you and your class had such a terrible experience. I'm surprised they have maintained accreditation with such poor pass rates. Was this the Jesuit school I am familiar with in the area or is there some other school I am not familiar with?

goofylucy

Specializes in Hospice, LTC, Home Health. Has 6 years experience.

No this is "The Baptist Private University"- Named after the city I live in(hint-hint)-In reference to the practicum we were grouped and sent mainly to med/surg floors-or orthopedic. Would you believe because we had such big clinical groups we never had two pt's-some were lucky and actually got a couple weeks of a unit...Of course most of the nurses wanted nothing to do with any of us-Why? Well hell they were never asked or told we were coming-Just a total waste of our time- This did allow those who utilized the time in the breakroom plenty of study time...Of course if you just studied what the instructor's told you-you might pass one of there crackpot test-but as our board passing rate shows-You would not ever pass boards! I personally attribute my passing to intense self-study and I also attended "The Hurst Review"(which the university needs to send all the instructor's to so they can learn how to teach nursing to nursing students) I also am trying to figure out why they still have the accreditation-The Dean of this university was questioned about why our class scores were so low - Would you believe the weasal actually is quoted in the newspaper saying "That the university had lowed their standards for admission the last few years-to help answer to the nursing shortage" -Please, Bishop state was having problems a few years back and that finally gave students no alternative but UM for the ADN nursing program-(HIGHLY PRICED) They accepted everyone that applied I am sure- but greed was the motivation. We did not even have desk to sit in because they had accepted so many people. They have added several new additions in the two years I have been there and prior to that they had added nothing.

goofylucy, I'm sorry to hear about your clinical experience. I feel that the clinicals are a crucial part of a nursing program. I can't believe the staff at the hospital did not know your group was showing up. Did that happen all the time or just a one time thing?

I have not had a problem with my clinicals. We get a great experience at the hopsitals and get a good deal of hands on work. Oh...I go to USA. We have some teachers that teach what they want to teach also. But, it is all useful info. Does your school not give the NLN? If we score lower than the 40th percentile, we have to take refresher classes.

Our instructors treated us as if they were blessing us with their ability to read from a nursing text-This whole nursing school experience was horrible- :confused:

Oh MY! :uhoh3:

KK7724

Specializes in NICU. Has 2 years experience.

Hi,

I would just like to say when I read your post, I immediately knew what school and program you were speaking of. They roped me in there when I was a senior in high school by saying their NCLEX pass rate was second to Auburn! Wrong! After I signed up and started going to school there, I did a little research and found out their scores were among the lowest in the state! I finished out my freshman year and transferred to Auburn University at Montgomery. Same exact curriculum and Dean as Auburn University, however WE have higher expectations, a point system, and better pass rates than AU. I am so glad I made the decision to leave the school you are speaking of. AUM has been awesome. Our instructors encourage us to call them at home and give out their cell phone numbers. They really care and want us to succeed. What is the Board going to do about your school's accredidation??

~Kristina~

KK7724

Specializes in NICU. Has 2 years experience.

My school is so concerned about its reputation that we have to take something called the Exit HESI (stands for the name of the test), but it is simulated to be like State Boards....we have to score 850 or higher on it and after 3 tries and you don't pass, you don't graduate. At first, I thought this was unfair and ridiculous, but it is good prep for NCLEX and hey, the school has to look out for itself. I just took it last Friday and passed with an 871! Can't wait to graduate! Does USA have anything like this??

~Kristina~

In Mobile, there has been a huge problem with the ADN programs.

Bishop State has been on probation more than once and University of Mobile's ADN program has also been on probation.

There seems to be less of a problem with the BSN programs. In fact, Springhill (a Jesuit college) has a 100% passage on their boards.

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Have you considered Faulkner's program??

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Hi,

I would just like to say when I read your post, I immediately knew what school and program you were speaking of. They roped me in there when I was a senior in high school by saying their NCLEX pass rate was second to Auburn! Wrong! After I signed up and started going to school there, I did a little research and found out their scores were among the lowest in the state! I finished out my freshman year and transferred to Auburn University at Montgomery. Same exact curriculum and Dean as Auburn University, however WE have higher expectations, a point system, and better pass rates than AU. I am so glad I made the decision to leave the school you are speaking of. AUM has been awesome. Our instructors encourage us to call them at home and give out their cell phone numbers. They really care and want us to succeed. What is the Board going to do about your school's accredidation??

~Kristina~

:o

In Mobile, there has been a huge problem with the ADN programs.

Bishop State has been on probation more than once and University of Mobile's ADN program has also been on probation.

There seems to be less of a problem with the BSN programs. In fact, Springhill (a Jesuit college) has a 100% passage on their boards.

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Have you considered Faulkner's program??

I hope the program has changed. I did notice they now ask for a 55% on the pax and you must have all the prerequistes. I am waiting to hear back from them for this summer of 2005 class. Approximately how long is the program and how many days a week were clinicals?

I hope the program has changed. I did notice they now ask for a 55% on the pax and you must have all the prerequistes. I am waiting to hear back from them for this summer of 2005 class. Approximately how long is the program and how many days a week were clinicals?

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I will "hopefully" be in the USA program in the fall (BSN), so only know their length.

I know people who are working on their prereq's at Faulkner, but not actually in the program yet. So dont know a lot about it.

But, the associate program is new and they have never been on probation.

They have just recently dropped the pre-cal requirement for the associates program.

But since Bishop and UofM have had so many problems, I would stay away from both of them.

I knew people who went to Bishop and then could not sit for boards (because of the probation). All that money...gone. Down the drain. They had to transfer to other schools.

And if you do stay at a school with 41% passage rate, there are places that are less expensive to do it at! UofM is DOUBLE what Springhill is!

And they can try to blame it all on the students, but there have to be other problems.

Private Baptist school.. In Mobile....

Sunny,

There is only one.

Years ago they had financial problems and have tried to make up for it by charging an rediculous amount of tuition (higher than Vanderbilt University).

A small private Baptist college in Saraland, AL is not anywhere close to Vanderbilt in reputation.

I dont see how they can charge what they do with a straight face!

And on top of it having a low passage rate.

SmilingBluEyes

Has 20 years experience.

I have never heard of such low board pass rates. Unreal. All ours had pass rates exceeding 90% (both BSN and ADN). Seems to me, some housecleaning is in order; they are taking your money and not dfelivering much in return.

Hi Kyriaka....

Sweet Mother!!! I figured out what college you meant and went to the website.... THAT MUCH for 41%.!!!!

Agape

Sunny,

I couldnt remember what they were charging per credit hour (minus fees + they charge for a parking sticker!).

I looked on their web site and couldnt find the price--I am sure it is buried in a mass grave somewhere.

You must remember. Saraland, AL is nothing. It is a blip on an AL interstate!

They must be out of their minds to charge what they do.

There is a local Jesuit college with a 100% passage rate. They have an excellent reputation (for 1/2 the cost) located in the most pristine area of the city not far from the country club and even have their own golf course!

Here is their link:

http://www.shc.edu/vtour//

I wouldnt mind going there, but it would add 2 semester since I would need a year of language.

dansamy

Specializes in Going to Peds!.

I currently attend Bishop. While I cannot speak for their problems in the past, as I was not a student at that time, I can address the current curriculum. We are required to take HESI exams each semester based on that semester's content. In addition, we take a mid-curricular cumulative HESI and an "exit" HESI. We are required to make 850 on those in order to proceed, either to the next semester or to graduation. I am in my second semester. The 1st semester was not difficult. This semester seems to be "meatier". For FY 03-04, Bishop achieved 95% pass rate.

This semester seems to be "meatier". For FY 03-04, Bishop achieved 95% pass rate.

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It seems they have gotten their act together!! That is way up from their 40% in the past.

The people that I know who used to be there, Dr's, and some educators that I know, felt like Bishop was hiring unqualified teachers and that the fault lay with that and not the students.

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