Opinions Please! Long Story

[RNbeach]

Ok....... 2 weeks ago during my AP Class muscles pratical, a girl in my class asked me for an answer on the written portion of the pratical and I gave her the answer. Whatever.... maybe I shouldn't have done.... hindsight is 20/20 but I did. OK.....Aside from that some other people in the class shared some answers also...... A woman in our class (the A+ Student) who is now my ex study partner took it upon herself to mention something to the professor about the class cheating and made some derrogatory comments about me to someone else in the class "I can't believe so and so would actually help someone cheat" OK.. I am not denying that I did..... because I did give this other student an answer.... and the fact the others in the class were sharing answers does not excuse it!

BUT for her to mention something to the professor, I felt was out of line....... she needs to mind her business...

Tonight during our break from lecture.... everyone is commenting on how the professor seems to be very dry with us, he is usally a cut up..... and one of the young ladies said she called him during the thanksgiving break to inquire about the pratical, if she had passed or failed... and he mentioned to her, that her name had come up with regards to dishonesty! So me and my BIG MOUTH... said I know where that came from..... SO & SO said something to the professor!

Well I just opened a can of worms because now... everybody is giving the my ex study partner....... dirty looks.......

So now it's the end of the class.. I am putting my coat on and she confronts me and starts shouting.. and i know the professor can hear her... that next time I decide to say something about her i should say it to her face, and that she only told the professor that some people were being dishonest, and that maybe if I hadn't help other student.... I wouldn't be so upset...... So I told her 1st of all it's your word against mine.......... 2nd..... I know you said something with regards to me b/c another student told me and I confronted the other student. and she agreed! and 3rd who are you to play class police and go back to the professor with anything......

I Dismissed her and walked away.......

NOW....... we are all walking down the hall and she comments to the other mob of students.... one in particular who she mentioned by name to the professor..... (MIND YOU the professor just told some of the students individually that he was disappointed that some people were dishonest)

She said to them don't say anything I am right here... WEll here we go..... it' all blows up.... yelling... the students who were not mentioned and the ones that were.... are all upset at her... they say how dare she bring it up at all.... she deny's it..... than she said she only said some people were dishonest..... the mob continues to get unruly and name calling starts.....

She won't get in the elevator with us....she stays behind..... in the parking lot the one of the students who was mentioned by name said she is going to say something to the professor.....

UGHHHHHHHHHHHH and I 'm sure my ex study partner probably went to the professor and told him about the mob scene and that I started it......

GEEZ........ I know I probably should not have said anything..... but I did.

MY question is #1 do I personally address it with the professor who is a sweet heart and has been really nice and supportive to me....... and helped tremendously.....and he never mentioned anything to me about this whole thing at all tonight

Just forget it and not even acknowledge the incident

Of if he asks me about it.... just remain clueless

Or should I call my ex study partner and try to clear the air.....(her and I might be in the same nursing class in the fall

Of course I will not get any sleep tonight or for the rest of the week..... because of the S%it!......

Please guys.... don't crucify me..... just constructive critisism or some advice....

B

[RNbeach, ASN, RN]

kITTYW... You are absoletly right I did resent her...and for that I am wrong.... I am only human.... and to err is human or so they say!

Thank you for your comments!

Brenda

[kittyw]

It helps me to think about it like this .... I might get mad at getting a ticket, but I was the one speeding. :) I pay the ticket, get over it, and feel free to call the same officer for help when I'm in a car accident or whatever.

[researchrabbit]

I've never liked the term "tattle tale". Whistleblower is probably a better term.

And in a professional capacity, you may have to be the whistleblower -- on someone who is using substances at work, being abusive to patients, or otherwise not fulfilling the responsibilities of the job. And someone will probably throw the "tattle tale" tag at you EVEN THOUGH if you knew and didn't tell, you would be liable too.

People who have made mistakes don't want to take responsibility for them, so somehow the mistake becomes the fault of the person who blew the whistle (in other words, the person who made the original mistake becomes the victim).

It's never easy to blow the whistle (as you can see by what happened to your study partner).

I cheated on a test once. I was in the 2nd grade, and KNEW I couldn't spell "train" so I wrote it on a tiny piece of paper and held it in my lap and then chewed it up. I was never caught and never confessed but I felt so bad about it that I never cheated again. I even use a cover sheet when I take tests so that no one else is even tempted.

Rationalization -- finding a reason to make our mistakes OK -- is SO easy. It is a rare, very rare person who has not ever used that particular escape in some area of their lives, either for themselves or for a significant other or children.

It is important to be able to recognize it because once one begins the slide down that slippery slope, it is harder and harder to accept responsibility for one's actions.

[researchrabbit]

Originally posted by researchrabbit

I've never liked the term "tattle tale". Whistleblower is probably a better term.

And in a professional capacity, you may have to be the whistleblower -- on someone who is using substances at work, being abusive to patients, or otherwise not fulfilling the responsibilities of the job. And someone will probably throw the "tattle tale" tag at you EVEN THOUGH if you knew and didn't tell, you would be liable too.

People who have made mistakes don't want to take responsibility for them, so somehow the mistake becomes the fault of the person who blew the whistle (in other words, the person who made the original mistake becomes the victim).

(I see this tendency even in myself, and have to fight against it).

It's never easy to blow the whistle (as you can see by what happened to your study partner).

I cheated on a test once. I was in the 2nd grade, and KNEW I couldn't spell "train" so I wrote it on a tiny piece of paper and held it in my lap and then chewed it up. I was never caught and never confessed but I felt so bad about it that I never cheated again. I even use a cover sheet when I take tests so that no one else is even tempted.

Rationalization -- finding a reason to make our mistakes OK -- is SO easy. It is a rare, very rare person who has not ever used that particular escape in some area of their lives, either for themselves or for a significant other or children.

It is important to be able to recognize it because once one begins the slide down that slippery slope, it is harder and harder to accept responsibility for one's actions.

OH NO!! NOT ANOTHER LIFE LEARNING LESSON!!!!

:) Take care!

[researchrabbit]

oops, sorry, meant to edit the original post! :)

[kittyw]

Researchrabbit ... you said it much better than I did. :)

[researchrabbit]

Thanks kitty! (blushing) and you said it pretty well yourself. :)

[nursing 101]

So I guess everybody here has reported either a student cheating or a nurse stealing narcotics (which I would also report).

Maybe it's the big bad world I'm living in because in most classes and hospitals and work place someone has done something that had to be reported! But you know, most people don't! Not because they don't know, they just don't want to get involved.

Kardut and research rabbit, please go on and save the world, tell on every single person you can imagine that has tried to cheat or not. (And I don't mean it sarcastically) We just need more people like you guys that aren't as hypocrite as little old me!

Kardut,

Please read my post before you reply, as I said more than once GIVING ONE ANSWER IS CHEATING AND IT IS WRITTEN IN THE SCHOOL HANDBOOK! I WOULD TAKE FULL REPSONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS IF I WOULD GET CAUGHT CHEATING AND YES THAT INCLUDES GETTING KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL. AS STATED MANY TIMES "ME, MYSELF AND I' WE DON'T THINK THAT GIVING ONE ANSWER IS CHEATING.

And yes I'll probably go for it.

Oh! and tattle tales are still pathetic!

Flame suit is on and I'm ready to be burned...

Later,

: )

[nursing 101]

Sorry research rabbit... I din't mean to write your name in my post it was intended for Kitty W... Again I apologize... I couldn't edit it for some reason.

[kittyw]

Yes, but I can sleep at night and look in the mirror and still respect myself.

[rebelwaclause, ASN, RN]

Most nurses sleep good at night! (hahahahaha)...

I'm sorry...Just thought I'd put some humor on all this bickering back and fourth about who should and shouldn't go to hell for minor stuff. Sounds like self-righteous judging...to me.

What have you done that I can stone you about?

(Sigh...) I'm glad humanity in general doesn't have a heaven or a hell to put me in...

[natsfanrn]

Originally posted by nursing 101

Maybe it's the big bad world I'm living in because in most classes and hospitals and work place someone has done something that had to be reported! But you know, most people don't! Not because they don't know, they just don't want to get involved.

Now tell me honestly -- do you really think "not wanting to get involved" is justification for not taking any action? Yes, I know a surprising number of people do think that way, but that's a scary thought nevertheless.

Kardut and research rabbit, please go on and save the world, tell on every single person you can imagine that has tried to cheat or not. (And I don't mean it sarcastically) We just need more people like you guys that aren't as hypocrite as little old me!

No, I don't run around class searching for cheaters, real or imagined, and jumping up and down with joy when I find one and get to report him or her. In fact, I've never had the occasion to, and honestly don't know what I'd do if I did. But just as your values enable you to justify sharing an answer, my values prohibit me from accepting cheating. And I've been in the big bad world long enough to know that what may seem like minor fudging here and there can have major implications...

Please read my post before you reply, as I said more than once GIVING ONE ANSWER IS CHEATING AND IT IS WRITTEN IN THE SCHOOL HANDBOOK! I WOULD TAKE FULL REPSONSIBILITY FOR MY ACTIONS IF I WOULD GET CAUGHT CHEATING AND YES THAT INCLUDES GETTING KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL. AS STATED MANY TIMES "ME, MYSELF AND I' WE DON'T THINK THAT GIVING ONE ANSWER IS CHEATING.

I understood what you wrote the first time, but I'm sorry, I just have a hard time comprehending how you can admit that an action is cheating and is considered an expellable offense by the school, then go on to say that YOU don't consider it cheating. Do you REALLY in your heart not consider it cheating, or are you simply justifying an action?

No response required here; I'm sure you, like I, have finals to study for...we can just agree to disagree