Modesty Issues - page 8

Looking for words of wisdom from those who are more experienced with prepping a pt for surgery or catheterizing adult male pts with modesty issues. It has only happened a few times in the past year... Read More

  1. by   Cul2
    Let me try to sum up what I believe the issue is, for me at least. I believe that
    the majority of doctors, and especially nurses, do look out for patient modesty
    and work hard to protect their patient dignity. But let's say, just for the sake
    of argument that it's 75 or 80% who do this. So, 20-25% don't for whatever reasons.
    When the 75 or 80 percent see the 20-25% violating patient modesty, what
    do they do? How many of them intervene, stop the violation, and make it clear to
    the individual that this shouldn't happen and better not happen again? As I see it,
    my guess is that the majority do NOT intervene. That's what bothers me. I'm willing
    to accept that medicine, like all professions, has a few bad apples. But, I also
    believe that the culture of medicine discourages those good doctor and nurses
    from either turning the bad apple in or even correcting or chastising him/her. Of
    course, other professions have this kind of culture, too. We find this in police
    work or the military, too. And, like medicine, the stakes are extremely high when
    the good allow the bad behavior to go unchallenged.
    That's what bothers me most about this issue.
  2. by   tbrd450
    advo-kate, well said!.. I agree, it is as relevant today as ever before.

    I want to request feedback directly from those working in the medical field (nurses, doctors, techs, etc.). I would like to propose that on our universal quest to improve overall patient modesty consideration within the medical setting, we begin simply by bringing the consideration afforded male patients up to the level already, minimally, afforded those patients whom happen to be female. that which is already done for women and girls by default. That would be a logical first step, woudn't it?

    Nobody seems to want to talk directly to, specifically on, the disparate treatment issue I and others (including DonMd) raised before. Why the difference between that which is afforded males than that which is afforded females? And, let's not get bogged down on the all male team request issue. Let's consider everything else for a minute. Why the disparate consideration based on gender:

    1) less concern for a male patient's modesty
    2) less vigilence toward ensuring he is as covered as she is
    3) a prevailing presumption that peripheral staff are permitted to participate in, or witness, intimate care delivered to male patients -- to view penise jewelry out of simple curiosity, to hang out in the room waiting for your girlfriend to finish her shift to accompany her home, etc..etc...etc...
    4) And the apparent widespread conclusion that he is silly when he (the patient) speaks up, but she (the patient) is not?

    I'm curious, why the difference? Let's begin improving things simply by affording men and boys that which we already afford women and girls. Doesn't that make sense?

    Why so silent on this specific point?
  3. by   sirI
    Thread closed for staff review.