Caught diverting,admitted to it, have a lawyer. "Complaiance meeting " is Jan 30th. Recruiters won't assit with job placement. Hospitals won't hire, wehter I explain to them or not. Will any one hire as long as it's A "grey undetermined " area.
Got a decent job offer then rejected so psychologically depressed..
Aside from me admitting guilt to personal use narcotic diversio , the key "complaints listed" are undocumented waste and giving a pain med to early, and the having a narcotic in my pocket which I had to hand off to another nurse due to changing of pt assignment.
I still have no idea what she did with it, as we should of wasted it....
Neither I nor the nurse who wasted pressed thr "confirm waste " button which honestly why the hell is it there. Nor did pharmacy or charge or manager ever bring the issue up...Until after termination via the submitted info to BON.
Been reading stories and they are all so depressing, it's like why bother ,go do something else.
HPRP program may be required which costs..get this 20k a year for 1-3 years. Sooo. 20 ***ing thousand, I could go to a luxurie inpatient rehab for that amount.
I no longer have any desire for drugs and actually avoided giving them at my last job. I found my root cause analysis.
For the nurse who is asking about what the monitoring program will ask you and how you answer. Here is what Hazeldon counselors told me who were former board members on the Minnesota Board and this has worked for me and thousands of others in the same situation.
If they ask you..."how many times did you use," did you use daily or how many times per day? You say exactly the following. "I do not know how many times I used as I did not keep a record of my use but I'm for certain I have used and that I do have a problem and am here and want to get help." Period! Leave it at that and I promise you, that will be the very last time you are asked about "how many times you used." They want to hear the words..." I have a problem and want help." That's enough for them.
They know about your narc pulls and that you admitted it before. They already know this. Do not Minimize your use regarding the problem. Do not Maximize your use or problem by giving them an exact number or estimate of how many times you used. Answer the way I recommended above. The amount of time you will get in monitoring has already been decided Before you arrive to the meeting. Read that again....the amount of time you are going to get in monitoring has overwhelmingly likely to have already been decided by them Before you even arrive or meet with them because of the evidence they have.
Don't worry about the meeting. You are soon to enter into monitoring and will be able to keep your license and move on with your life. The meeting you have already had with the investigators should be far more concerning than your meeting with the monitoring program people.
What could possibly...possibly....very low chance, but possibly reduce your time in monitoring? Start recovery meetings now. AA NA, or CR. Stsrt doing 3 per week keep a record take this with you to the monitoring/compliance meeting. What do they see? They see a person thst hadn't had to be Forced...hasn't had to be Told to go to meetings and that you did it on your own. It is once AGAIN why I stress the importance of getting into monitoring the very same day you get into trouble because it shows them when the time comes for the compliance meeting a year later after your lawyer lolly gags around, you were active and went on your own without being forced or told.
I realize its to late at this point on starting monitoring early as you didn't know and went by what your lawyer said and it's not your fault, but it is not to late to stsrt recovery meetings prior to that compliance meeting which could maybe....maybe help some
"My posts are not simply for 1 person they are directed at the 100 nurses thst will find themselves in the same situation and read this forum looking for answers 10 daya 100 days, or 5 years from now. "
If you are a nurse in trouble and the evidence is clearly against you and you know you have a problem start monitoring quickly.
If you are a nurse who is getting hosed by a corrupt BON and you know you did nothing wrong and do not have a problem. Go and get a lawyer and get your own SUD at a highly respected place and take the results showing that you don't have an SUD to your lawyer and fight it
If you are a nurse in trouble and the evidence is clearly against you and you know you have a problem start monitoring quickly.
If we start HPRP before the board decides anything - does that HPRP time spent before the nursing board's decision - still count towards any eventual agreement signed? That is, if the agreement calls for 3 years, and we've completed 1 year of HPRP, does that mean only 2 more years are needed? Or is that one year not counted since there was no HPRP agreement signed, and still having 3 more years of HPRP required?
If we start HPRP before the board decides anything - does that HPRP time spent before the nursing board's decision - still count towards any eventual agreement signed? That is, if the agreement calls for 3 years, and we've completed 1 year of HPRP, does that mean only 2 more years are needed? Or is that one year not counted since there was no HPRP agreement signed, and still having 3 more years of HPRP required?
You're participating in HPRP without a monitoring agreement? Are you in the evaluation period? That does not count. O did drug tests for a month to keep working. My monitoring agreement is 3 years from the day I signed the wretched monitoring agreement. No credit for the month in limbo in another state.
Your time absolutely does count. Michigan and other states want 3 years of monitoring up to 5 years. Most are 5 years, but it depends. Your time starts from the day you enter monitoring, not from the date of the consent order. You will get credit for the 1 year already completed.
NurseJackie69
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For the nurse who is asking about what the monitoring program will ask you and how you answer. Here is what Hazeldon counselors told me who were former board members on the Minnesota Board and this has worked for me and thousands of others in the same situation.
If they ask you..."how many times did you use," did you use daily or how many times per day? You say exactly the following. "I do not know how many times I used as I did not keep a record of my use but I'm for certain I have used and that I do have a problem and am here and want to get help." Period! Leave it at that and I promise you, that will be the very last time you are asked about "how many times you used." They want to hear the words..." I have a problem and want help." That's enough for them.
They know about your narc pulls and that you admitted it before. They already know this. Do not Minimize your use regarding the problem. Do not Maximize your use or problem by giving them an exact number or estimate of how many times you used. Answer the way I recommended above. The amount of time you will get in monitoring has already been decided Before you arrive to the meeting. Read that again....the amount of time you are going to get in monitoring has overwhelmingly likely to have already been decided by them Before you even arrive or meet with them because of the evidence they have.
Don't worry about the meeting. You are soon to enter into monitoring and will be able to keep your license and move on with your life. The meeting you have already had with the investigators should be far more concerning than your meeting with the monitoring program people.
What could possibly...possibly....very low chance, but possibly reduce your time in monitoring? Start recovery meetings now. AA NA, or CR. Stsrt doing 3 per week keep a record take this with you to the monitoring/compliance meeting. What do they see? They see a person thst hadn't had to be Forced...hasn't had to be Told to go to meetings and that you did it on your own. It is once AGAIN why I stress the importance of getting into monitoring the very same day you get into trouble because it shows them when the time comes for the compliance meeting a year later after your lawyer lolly gags around, you were active and went on your own without being forced or told.
I realize its to late at this point on starting monitoring early as you didn't know and went by what your lawyer said and it's not your fault, but it is not to late to stsrt recovery meetings prior to that compliance meeting which could maybe....maybe help some