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Laid off pilot use to make 12K a month, sitting in nursing school. That's when
I for one, would certainly not be emptying trash cans/garbege, because some fat beaurocrat who has sat behind a desk for 10 years and has nil current clinical experience thinks nurses can do a bit more. All these extra duties and extra paperwork is enough. What would happen if you were emptying garbage and some poor patient had an allergic reaction to a drug, or needed help with something? I would absolutely refuse as a professional to do duties outside the scope of nursing practice. Also consider the legal ramifications - if you work outside your boundaries, you leave yourself open for litigation. If a nurse manager - or any manager - asked us to empty garbage, etc I would refuse & I would give my reasons why there and then.
We don't do a 4 year bachelor degree to work for $20 an hour - we are told if we do the 4 years in Australia, you are entitled to more money. We should get more money if we have studied more. My gf told me once that she is a RN and a midwife, and she is only on $50,000 a year plus being on call (with extra rates I think). She said that is not enough for someone who has 2 degrees. I would tend to agree with her. People with more experience & study should get a bit more money as well, otherwise what is the point in slogging our guts out to get ahead?
That is great and that is a high wage and is not "typical" of wages in that area for new grads.
Guess it just depends on where you live. Socal is huge and I'm sure other places in socal don't get the same salary like San Diego for instance. I'm sure their salaries are lower. In my case though, I live around the areas where the pay is about avg 35 - 45 for new grads, so I'm happy.
But knowledge and responsibility aren't what dictate wages in any field. Rather, supply of and demand for given skills and abilities dictate wages.Should I be paid more considering the knowledge and responsibility I have? Yes.
Nurses are more or less a fungible commodity. Airline pilots are, too, of course, but the path to an ATP is much more tortuous than the path to an RN... and airline pilots are universally unionized... and their contracts have special consideration by the government and remain in force in perpetuity until replaced by a new contract.
nursel56
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I know this is true of the teaching profession, but I haven't seen it in nursing as of yet, unfortunately. Between the ADN and BSN, one with the BSN said she gets 10 cents an hour more! If you want to stay in bedside nursing, I can't imagine hospitals paying extra for an MSN. Going the advance practice route with an MSN as a springboard works. I still think extra education to work as a staff nurse doesn't seem to gain you much, though I wish it did!
Ahh. . . c'mon! How is input updating current area-specific salary ranges equivalent to a p*ssing contest, lol. :)