Nybon Nursing School Under Investigation

I finished my LPN-RN program from Carleen Health Institute. I took the NCLEX under New York state board and passed the exam. I'd been waiting on the license a couple of weeks and decided to call NYbon, was told the school is under review - hence they would not be issuing any licenses till the review is done. They also wouldn't give a time frame. Does anyone have any idea how long these reviews usually take or what could be done in situations like this?

Specializes in oncology.
Idealista said:

"Approval" from Florida doesn't mean much unless you plan on only working in Florida. I

In Florida, I the FBON looks at the entire curriculum but after that  review is done, the Florida DOE has control over the continuing improvement of the schools. 

Idealista said:

"Accredited" means that the school took the additional steps to ensure that their programs would be accepted at a national level.

With National  it means you can get loans for your education like, Corinthian, ITT tech or the recent schools that went bottoms up, I do not say bankrupt because the Owners, CEOs all stuffed their wallets until it was inevitable the school corporations did not provide enough for greedy investors.

Idealista said:

"Accredited" means that the school took the additional steps to ensure that their programs. This involves not only the quality of the programs but the faculty qualifications, the school's financial stability, number of graduates who find work in the field after graduation, and more. It is time-consuming and not inexpensive for a school to take these steps - BUT - it ensures that the school's graduates do not go through what many of you are now experiencing.

You are getting Programmatic accreditation confused with national accreditation.. Program accreditations does a deep dive into EVERYTHING about an institution....money coming in AND going out, the soundness of the curriculum, graduate data, faculty credentials, DEAN credentials. How the college contributes to the students and community welfare. So much more. 

Specializes in oncology.

Wrong attribution for quote. My apologies.

londonflo said:

How is this different from setting up in a strip mall? You gotta tell me. 

Thats is not my post. Please read carefully. Because I never stated anything about where a school is set up.

londonflo said:

How is this different from setting up in a strip mall? You gotta tell me.  

You'd have to tell me. I'm not sure there is a big difference.

londonflo said:

You are getting Programmatic accreditation confused with national accreditation.. Program accreditations does a deep dive into EVERYTHING about an institution....money coming in AND going out, the soundness of the curriculum, graduate data, faculty credentials, DEAN credentials. How the college contributes to the students and community welfare. So much more. 

I was drawing a big picture difference... but you are right - programmatic accreditation is different and more in-depth and is the accreditation that the majority of nursing programs aspire to. National accreditation is a step above "state approved" and a step below programmatic accreditation...although many schools have both. There is also regional vs. national-level accreditation, I.e. DEAC vs. WASC, etc.

Specializes in oncology.

 

Idealista said:

National accreditation is a step above "state approved" and a step below programmatic accreditation...

Programmatic accreditation is the biggest step above state, national,  and cousin bob's approval of a program. You are giving thousands of dollars away for a piece of paper. Betsy Devos milked the system for all she could. If you are not 100% on board that ALL nursing programs need to have programmatic accreditation you may rethink getting on board

londonflo said:

Programmatic accreditation is the biggest step above state, national,  and cousin bob's approval of a program. You are giving thousands of dollars away for a piece of paper. Betsy Devos milked the system for all she could. If you are not 100% on board that ALL nursing programs need to have programmatic accreditation you may rethink getting on board

I think that this is how they should do things for sure going forward but what about those who went to programs not on federal fraud list and passed the boards. Alot of schools were approved not accredited but they should let us through. We passed before any emergency action was put in. We shouldn't fall into this new category. We did the course work and clinicals that were required of us and it wasn't easy work. We had to study hard. If it wasn't for this debacle, we would of had our licenses a long time ago. It's the people that decided to sell transcripts and diplomas without school work or clinicals that are the real culprits. They have the list of everyone already. The feds did the leg work. We are not a part of that. How many other nurses passed from said programs working already from before. Are they going to revoke everyone else? I don't think so. NYBON needs to take that into consideration and let us through. We just want to further our careers. God willing they let us through, right back to school for me for MSN from an accredited program.

londonflo said:

Programmatic accreditation is the biggest step above state, national,  and cousin bob's approval of a program. You are giving thousands of dollars away for a piece of paper. Betsy Devos milked the system for all she could. If you are not 100% on board that ALL nursing programs need to have programmatic accreditation you may rethink getting on board

(Agree with you on Devos.) I agree that accreditation doesn't guarantee a great nursing program...however, it sets some guardrails in place - and they would have been useful for these nurses from these Florida schools.

G_Status said:

...We did the course work and clinicals that were required of us and it wasn't easy work. We had to study hard. If it wasn't for this debacle, we would of had our licenses a long time ago. . NYBON needs to take that into consideration and let us through.

I certainly hope for the best for you - but I would not expect a quick resolution to this situation. The NY Board is notoriously slow- and very meticulous in their reviews of everything that is their domain...This certainly won't be resolved in a few months.

Idealista said:

I certainly hope for the best for you - but I would not expect a quick resolution to this situation. The NY Board is notoriously slow- and very meticulous in their reviews of everything that is their domain...This certainly won't be resolved in a few months.

I hope so also. I passed since January but some people posted that they have been waiting longer than a year but I hope doesn't happen to us waiting.

star2022-I want to know what happens to the waiting people because their school is under review and if the NYC board does not accept their education, do our NCLEX scores get wipeout?

I just found this on the NM BON site on transferring NCLEX scores. I would assume a similar process is in place in all states.

"The NCLEX score transfer process allows candidates who have passed the NCLEX, but are not yet licensed in the jurisdiction that made them eligible, to transfer their score to another jurisdiction via NCSBN. The NRB, who initially made the candidate eligible, will need to provide the exams operations team (via email to [email protected]) with a formal letter, from the candidate, requesting the transfer. This letter should include candidate identification information and contain the candidate's signature (a sample template is available from NCSBN upon request).

NCSBN will contact the desired jurisdiction of licensure to confirm acceptance of the score transfer. Upon approval, NCSBN will work with Pearson VUE to transfer the candidate's NCLEX record, in NCLEX Administration, and confirm the successful score transfer to both jurisdictions.

Additional information on the Re-entry and Score Transfer processes can be found in Chapters 2 and 5 respectively of the NCLEX Member Board Manual and NCLEX Administration Manual."

https://nmibon.info/2020/10/09/NCLEX-score-transfers/

This is all going to be dependent on NY being willing to release the scores to the new BON, from the sound of it.

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