Nursing Unions

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I am looking for information regarding nursing unions... the advantages, disadvantages, how they work, etc.

I am in my last semester of a BSN program and this info will help me to prepare for a debate. I have to argue AGAINST professional nursing unions. Why should we not have them?????

Thanks!-NSCU RN

Specializes in Psych , Peds ,Nicu.
It woulfd take a lot more than this forum to hurt my feelings :D

Hence " Feign "in the above

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Right to work =Right to work for less.....

My dues have never been 80/month. My dues over my career have averaged 30/month....I have always had better insurance coverage and been covered by generous vacation/sick leave policies as a union member. (I started with 5 weeks of annual leave plus 2 weeks of sick leave.)

As a nurse because of the union rules I cannot be forced to work "back to back." IOW get off at midnight and report back at 0730 the next morning. I am guaranteed one full weekend off out of 3 which is usually every other weekend off.

Union members are the people who keep pushing for guaranteed sick leave laws to provide some protection for workers.

In solidarity....

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If I'm working for less, i would love to know what other hospital based PNPs are making a yr, because I do very well in my Right to Work for Less state!

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Plus if you look at educational and health statistics the unionized states have uniformly better results......

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Specializes in Psych , Peds ,Nicu.

There you go again , with your forced unionism , putting it in upper case doesn't make it so . Since when has it been that Democracy counts for nothing ?.

An attempt at organizing is made at a facility , Nurses at the facility , if they show enough support will have a democratic election , the result once certified by the NLRB takes effect .

Do you not like the democratic process , or do you not trust your fellow nurses to be able to participate in an election ?.

Your forced unionism argument is spurious , it is an anti democracy argument pure and simple .

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Specializes in ER, Psych, Telephone Triage.

testimony presented to the national commission on va nursing

as a union official, nurses often share concerns with me that they would not discuss with their manager. in today's work environment unions are essential to protecting the rights of employees and to providing an open democratic forum for issues to be addressed. the union is not an adversary to management; the goal of the union is to safeguard public interest, and to amicably resolve disputes. management is accountable not only to its employees but to other influences that impact their decisions. therefore, it is imperative to afford union officials the opportunity to appoint nursing staff to committees so that the focus is not one sided.

quoted from article by shashi bhandari-gadson

http://www.afge.org/index.cfm?page=vanursingcommission&file=la_sb.htm

here is at least 1 idea of local san diego wage scale for np (union job)

nurse practitioner ii

university of california, san diego

payroll title: nurse practitioner ii. full salary range: $7,395 - $10,149 /month.

ucsd layoff from career appointment or special selection: apply by 01/04/10 to be considered with preference for rehire.

- eligible acces clients should contact their ucsd vocational rehabilitation counselor to discuss special selection.

- layoff applicants must leave a message at (858) 534-6333 or call your assigned sr. employment advisor to exercise your preferential rehire status.

this position is union represented by nx - nursing. for more information go to http://blink.ucsd.edu/go/cbu

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Not impressed. The article is just more union drivel.

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Specializes in ER, Psych, Telephone Triage.

In response to PICUPNP comment about a pay scale of a Union job in San Diego.

Whether or not you are impressed with some data I presented to you that is very relevant to this conversation re Unions and also to your specialty, is of no concern to me.

I am not here to impress you!

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In other words, the union wage noted wasn't that impressive as compared to what I make as well as the cost of living factor. It doesn't seem that the union has increased the wage of a PNP enough to make it a viable option considering all of the other stuff that one would have to put up with when joining a union.

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Wages are like real estate. Its location, location, location.....That said on average there is a very real premium for union members vs. non members.

This translates societally on a more important level to better educational and health care systems for members of society. Compare any RTW state with a non RTW state on outcome measures such as life expectancy and HS graduation rates. The non-RTW states do not come off well in these comparisons.

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You have got to be kidding me! Now the unions are responsible for how well my children are educated and my life expectancy...WOW!! I'm sure that with a little research I can show you a study that shows how unions are less than needed in this country.

http://www.nilrr.org/files/Tax-Paying%20Familes%20Are%20Fleeing%20--%20slightly%20corrected.pdf

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