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Hi all - Here I am dwellling on my recent rejection from the local nursing program. As I was taking the prereqs, I was acquiring the persona of a nurse. I was imagining myself as a nurse. I was sure I'd get in. I had a 3.8 GPA, hi TEAS scores and a bachelor's in an unrelated subject area ,French, Italian and linguistics. So now, the nurse persona has stuck with me and there is nothing to substantiate it. I am truly lost. I applied a second time this month and will hear again in September, but I am reluctant to get my hopes up. Despite an apparent good record, reality doesn't always reflect what one would expect. I am trying to get my mind off it by registering for an applied music course in violin and piano. I don't know if that will do the trick. I see other RNs and respiratory therapists who have been successful in their callings, but they don't seem to be particularly intelligent, polished, articulate or astute. I am don't want to be conceited, but I know where my strengths are. I believe that I fit the bill of the previous sentence. Are these attributes not important to the nursing profession? As I said, so many people I've encountered around here are simply quite ordinary.

Any thoughts? Merci beaucoup!

Hi all - Here I am dwellling on my recent rejection from the local nursing program. As I was taking the prereqs, I was acquiring the persona of a nurse. I was imagining myself as a nurse. I was sure I'd get in. I had a 3.8 GPA, hi TEAS scores and a bachelor's in an unrelated subject area ,French, Italian and linguistics. So now, the nurse persona has stuck with me and there is nothing to substantiate it. I am truly lost. I applied a second time this month and will hear again in September, but I am reluctant to get my hopes up. Despite an apparent good record, reality doesn't always reflect what one would expect. I am trying to get my mind off it by registering for an applied music course in violin and piano. I don't know if that will do the trick. I see other RNs and respiratory therapists who have been successful in their callings, but they don't seem to be particularly intelligent, polished, articulate or astute. I am don't want to be conceited, but I know where my strengths are. I believe that I fit the bill of the previous sentence. Are these attributes not important to the nursing profession? As I said, so many people I've encountered around here are simply quite ordinary.

Any thoughts? Merci beaucoup!

Get over it and get over yourself!! If you think your better than your fellow classmates, are you going to have that same attitude with a patient?? I believe nursing is about being grounded and humble, traits you may not have. Every student in my program has a degree already, from prestigous schools in NYC where we are located, but in nursing your previous degree doesn't matter. Before I was accepted to the program I am in I was REJECTED from another school. I just got over it and applied to a different school. Sorry to sound so harsh, but your arrogant attitude might be better fit for medical school.

Oh come on, lots of nurses are totally arrogant (me). Doesn't mean you are gonna go off on your patients. It means you still have a little life left in you. IMO you gotta have it to survive. This is a anonymouse nursing board, you can do/say stuff you would not choose to at work. I always view posts in this way.

It's kinda frustrating where I am from because they don't care about voulenteer work, any background you have in health, weather your passionate or not. They only care about your grades and nothing else. Which drives me up the wall. I'v never been amazing at academics (although I upgraded, worked my behind off and got honors in my sciences) so I feel to prove in other areas get shut down.

It doesn't feel fair that all they care about it how someone ca do on paper because I know I can excel at everything else easily.

ARGG, please hang in there! It's not "will we get into nursing" it's a matter of when!

To the OP: Don't go around apologizing for your own upbringing. You are an adult now and can make your own decisions, so own them! You need to replace your "snobby" attitude (as you called it) with confidence. And it is a thin line, so be careful where you tread. Don't cower behind the way your parents brought you up. If you are unhappy with it, change it yourself! Only you can change YOU. :)

Regarding your original post: I suggest you get some experience in the field. Work your way up from the bottom. Someone else mentioned volunteering in the healthcare field. I would suggest trying to get a job as a CNA or PCA/PCT. It's a short 2 1/2 week class (in most cases) and you can get a job working right under the nurses. At least in this situation, even if you won't be working as a nurse, you will be getting one step closer! There are also many learning opportunities in these positions, so it's a great place to start your career in the field. Also, maybe you can try applying at other schools? Have you considered moving away from home or applying to other programs? This would also give you a greater chance of getting into a BSN program.

Good luck to you and I hope you meet success!!

Specializes in SICU.
Hi all - Here I am dwelling on my recent rejection from the local nursing program. As I was taking the prereqs, I was acquiring the persona of a nurse. I was imagining myself as a nurse. I was sure I'd get in. I had a 3.8 GPA, hi TEAS scores and a bachelor's in an unrelated subject area ,French, Italian and linguistics. So now, the nurse persona has stuck with me and there is nothing to substantiate it. I am truly lost. I applied a second time this month and will hear again in September, but I am reluctant to get my hopes up. Despite an apparent good record, reality doesn't always reflect what one would expect. I am trying to get my mind off it by registering for an applied music course in violin and piano. I don't know if that will do the trick. I see other RNs and respiratory therapists who have been successful in their callings, but they don't seem to be particularly intelligent, polished, articulate or astute. I am don't want to be conceited, but I know where my strengths are. I believe that I fit the bill of the previous sentence. Are these attributes not important to the nursing profession? As I said, so many people I've encountered around here are simply quite ordinary.

Any thoughts? Merci beaucoup!

At the risk of being contrary to almost everyone who has responded thus far, I'm going to overwhelmingly take the side of violin9's original post. And just a disclaimer, I get pretty passionate about things so in my coming ramblings, please try not to take offense, just hear what I'm saying and if you disagree, respond objectively.

Since when did everyone become so stinking sensitive? I think there's something about communicating over the internet in which you lose that human sensitivity that, as a nurse, you should have. Put yourself in violin9's shoes for one instant. Your world gets rocked because your future plans aren't going the way you pictured them. (And who of us doesn't fantasize/day dream about what we hope our lives are like some day, and actually how accurate are those fantasies 99% of the time?). What's the first thing you would do after being rejected? Probably look at Joe Blow from across the street who got in and think, "Why the heck did he get in? He's an imbecile!" Does that make it right? No not necessarily, but come on, unless if you're an emotionless walking zombie, you've probably done the same thing once or twice. If you're like me you have lol.

But my POINT is, why is that the biggest thing most people took from this post? violin needs encouragement and she turns to you all, (and by the way you better believe your words really do effect people, even on the internet) and she gets blazed for a possible personality flaw. So what if she's a little conceited? So what if she's a little proud? Aren't we all? I know I am at times. Can't we get past that and see her as what her post REALLY conveys, which is someone who just needs some encouragement and maybe a little advice.

And sense when is it arrogant to assess yourself objectively and come up with some positive qualities? She said "I believe I fit the bill of the previous sentence". (referring to being "particularly intelligent, polished, articulate or astute") I bet the folks who condemned her for saying that would say the same thing about yourselves in an interview for employment with 5 reasons why they're each. Oh and "ordinary". Heaven forbid anyone on this earth be called ordinary. Nope. Never. Everyone is above average where I'm from ;). Good Lord.

violin9, if you want to get in a nursing program, come to my city. A 3.8 will get you in no problem. I don't know why you didn't get in, but I will say this; Don't give up. If you want to be a nurse, than you will be. Just push through. And if you do think, after hearing these people, that you are prideful or conceited, quit blaming your mom and take responsibility for the choices that got you where you are and made you who you are today. It's never too late to change. (You didn't think you were going to get off scott free did you?)

A final note; if there is anything I said which offended anyone, feel free to bring it to my attention in a respectful adult way. Please don't hear what "it sounded like I was saying" but just hear the words I wrote. And if you have something to say about my spelling/grammar, save it. Now is not the time for an English lesson.

Thanks for reading what I had to say,

Peace and love,

Mully

What I inferred from your post Mully, is that my reaction exhibited human nature, albeit conceit. I do appreciate your broadmindedness. As I may have stated before, I applied a week ago for the second time and will hear in September sometime. If I still don't meet with success, there is another nursing program around here, except that it's 50 miles away. That is the limit I would travel. I'm not even sure, however, if I really want to do that.

I have to view the situation thusly: I am not homeless, I have family - husband and three teenagers. While the extra money is welcome especially two of the children will be in college next month. It's not a matter of life and death. end of story.

I have to admit I was a little worried when I first read your post. You did sounds snobbish. Look, no one is perfect, nurses, RT's etc are NOT perfect. There are some nurses that may not seem that smart. But you dont work with them, so you dont know for sure if they should be a nurse. My advice to you. You will get into a program, if this is what you really want to do. But beleive me if you go through nursing school and become a nurse, you will have moments that will make you feel stupid. If you go in and recognize how much you have to learn, and be willing to accept that you and everyone else will never know everything, you will be great. Thats great that you have a broad education and interests, but nursing is a world like no other. So be prepared to learn a LOT.

I hold a BA and MEd and I tell you, I eat my fair share of humble pie every day. I was fortunate enough to get into nursing school on my first try and I am grateful for the opportunity.

While I cringe at any commentary that views a profession LESS than what it is, I get it. I do. At the same time. I don't care. I decided to leave a fairly respectable and well-paying job to become a high school English teacher. And let me tell you, you've gotta have thick skin for that--not just for what the kids will say and do, but for how others respond when you tell them what you do.

Here's the deal. I don't care. You do what you do, I'll do what you do. When I told family and friends that I was going into nursing, they were again shocked by me choosing another profession that didn't have the respect it deserved. I appreciated their concern and interest, but in the end, I didn't care (perhaps a bonus at my age is just not caring what others think--anymore).

There are some cruddy teachers out there. They aren't intelligent, ethical, compassionate, and quite honestly, they don't care (and yes, there are some schools that throw ed degrees out the window to any warm body who catches them). For many (including my brother who thankfully didn't use his teaching degree), they do it as a fall back. There are also AMAZING teachers out there--teachers who bleed and breathe teaching. They stink of passion for education. They love their students and it shows in all they do. They are extremely intelligent and dedicated--wholeheartedly--to their profession. Now I realize teaching is not nursing, but there are some similarities for certain.

There are some nurses who probably didn't do all that well academically (though, there must be some minimal expectation since I am fairly certain nursing and the schooling is not EASY). They may have come from meager beginnings, might be a single parent, a second-careerist, a recovering choc-o-holic. I had a student who barely passed my English class. She is now finishing up an LPN program. Nursing turned her into a dedicated and driven student. She was doing something she loved. Shakespeare didn't do it for her, but taking care of people did.

There is something about the "all walks of life" aspect of nursing that is awe-inspiring. Sure you will have the student that struggled, the student who could have been a doctor, but wanted to be a nurse instead. The single mother who wants to support her family. The young man who yearns for the rush of the ER. The 55-year-old who always dreamed of becoming a nurse, but worked a factory job instead. Maybe some look down on this . . . I kinda think it is pretty cool.

There are times I wish obtaining an RN required a bachelor's degree (BSN required for RN). Not because of the "weeding out" that would naturally occur, but because it does bring a level of respectability to a profession (and it might get rid of all those fly-by-night nursing programs that take money but don't deliver). I don't think those really wanting to be a nurse would be deterred--if they truly want to nurse, two extra years wouldn't stop them. Want to go for only two years--then go the LPN route.

Teachers will soon all be required to have a master's degree. While the pay won't necessarily change and the working conditions won't necessarily change, you can at least hold on to your expensive degree and pray that it will make you dinner and take your out to a movie, while it rubs you feet.

A very big part of nursing is humility. I find it difficult from your post to see you performing the many unpleasant task nurses need to do.

And do it with a smile.

I think someone took note of your attitude, interview or not.

Specializes in Trauma, Emergency.

we need a slice of humble pie for this gal, STAT! :BDCk::lol2:

Violin 9, I am going to be very honest with you. It really is interesting how our family of origin always influences us no matter how much we do or don't want to be like our family. You have a lot of core issues that need to be dealt with in a professional setting, like a counselor/therapist.

I'll give you a personal story, my sister was my dad's favorite and he has a very arrogant side to him that is opinionated and nothing could ever measure up to his expectations. My sister is in her mid 30s and never has held a long term job and is a career student because she always believes there is something better out there for her. Its very sad because she is highly intelligent, but low functioning. However, she is very arrogant also and will never see a therapist to work on her issues. I wish she would...

Good luck to you.

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