Nursing is pathetic... - page 3
It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the... Read More
Oct 10, '99Nursing like any occupation has benefits and limitations. I contemplated this the other day when I had to get my car fixed. I noted that the labour charge was three times what I recieve as an RGN. This puts the percieved current financial value of nurses by society into perspective. I was aghast at the value of human life as compared to a car. Nursing is influenced by many societal factors which we have very little contol over at times.However, I would not want to be a mechanic. No other job portrays the satisfaction that a relationship with patients and their significant others fosters. Nursing can offer many alternative options to other jobs. Take from it what you want and run with it. It is one job that enables you to travel . I have had many interesting jobs from film sets to convents, still wIth the job title RGN. At present I am nursing in New Zealand and contemplating job offers from Australia and the UK. For me, Nursing has been the pearl in the saying "The world is your oyster!"
Oct 11, '99Ahhhh....the Small time Electrician gets $100.00/hr, pays $4,000 and up a year for insurance to run his business, has $50,000 dollars of equipment minimum, employees plus taxes if hired, crawls through hot attics and under houses, etc., and works 1/2 to 3/4 of the year, so better save up for the "dry months". He spends 16+ hour days (comes home and has to do the books, quotes/estimating, equipment maintenance, and other sundy duties unless he is a "big outfit"). Of that $100.00/hr, alot goes to overhead. About 40% is take home, and out of that, add in 16 to 20 hour days 6 - 7 days a week, and it leaves you with the "joy" of your own business. He also has a high risk of injury via electric shock, etc. And customers don't always pay up, so here comes the legal expenses and lawyers. (My husband is a licensed C-10 (now PT), my dad/brothers own a constuction company, and my sister/hubby is a painting contractor...all very good sized companies).
Also, it takes an average of 10+ years to get to the point where the money is good.
I'll take nursing anyday!!!! And since my hubby is not FT C-10, the kids and I love seeing him more often!
Oct 11, '99Dear MollyJ,
Beautifully put. You took the words right outta my mouth...(and arranged them much better than I've been able to!)
Oct 12, '99well, this has been an interesting little exchange, hasn't it?
ND has made some points that me & my mates here in Cairns (Australia) often discuss over a drink (or two, or three)
it's a career that is pretty limited in it's rewards, unless you are prepared to sacrifice the sort of rewards that most of the workforce expects (money, status, convenience, power) for "nursing" rewards (the sense of satisfaction that comes with caring & helping)
perhaps I'm not just not a nice bloke, but I would recommend future job-seekers pursuing money & all that
is this an argument between job-satisfaction and life-satisafction? if so, it's a shame that nursing doesn't make it easier for us to have both
Oct 14, '99Hello everyone, this note is especially written with "nurse dude" in mind. I decided to read this string because I was intrigued by the topic "nursing is pathetic". All jobs have their pros and cons, nursing is no exception, but we can deal with those cons by getting on the whine train or by getting off our **** and trying to do things to change the what we don't like. Have you tried participating in research, attending policy meetings (not just complain but to make suggestions), or helping to make your working conditions better by setting a good example i.e. more positive attitude? Maybe this would be a better outlet for your frustrations.
Oct 19, '99I just read these posts and to be honest, my eyes hurt now and i'm a little dizzy!! I 've been a nurse for 9 1/2 years and it definitely has had its ups and downs, but I would highly recommend it. Every job has it's problems, when we got into nursing we knew we would be working weekends and holidays. There are plenty of nursing jobs that don't include these!! NurseDude, isn't there ONE good thing you have to say about nursing???
Oct 20, '99You probably won't like my reply, but it sounds as if you've hit a sensitive spot in nursing. I am 50 years old and have been a nurse for 15 years. I was a late bloomer nurse and actually chose to be a registered nurse. I have about 13 years of adult oncology nursing experience in a variety of positions. I now have chosen to return to school and chose to return to bedside nursing. You sound as if you have a few choices you need to make about your nursing career. Keep your sense of humor...remember nurses in the 1800's were paid in ale, and beer! Only if you were a very good nurse did you receive payment of gin! Life is precious, enjoy your chosen profession or make another choice.
Oct 20, '99The last post poingnant- as nurses we can all relate to the value of trying to enjoy and live each day to the fullest. To MIRN, Nurse Dude, and Kate I have been a nurse for 12 yrs. (before that I was a welder for 10 yrs.) I make 35.66 benefitted and would make over $40/hr without benefits. I am thankful for the struggles of CNA to help ensure a decent wage (I participate in political action). I returned to school for MSN/FNP and expect to make less. Community clinics pay $30/hr with benefits which is considered good. Planned Parenthood pays $20/hr for FNPs. Benefits and work load are negotiated by the FNP. Education may sustain interest in your career, but in a materialistic culture it is hard to appreciate the benefits of education in nursing. We must recognize the importance of personal values and context in answering the question of nursing as a career. I remember making more as a welder than my brother -in -law who had a PhD. He went back for an MBA in his field and does much better financially in marketing and development. I wonder if there will be comparable benefits to getting a graduate degree in nursing? I do appreciate the flexability in scheduling that nurses have, it has enabled me to volunteer, go to school and have time off whenever I need it. Both sides have valid points to make, nursing is a hard job and sometimes the efforts we make are not rewarded. I had heard that it was difficult before I started out but I was idealistic. I think I still have some of that but each person has their limitations. Perhaps a prospective nurse would benefit from interviewing and following nurses on the job before embarking on the educational process.
Nov 2, '99To NurseDude:
We need more positive people like you on these boards!!! NOT! It's pathetic that we have people like you in the profession. Your poor patients. You shouldn't even get close to sick people with your attitude. Go get some counseling. Obviously you picked the wrong career. Sounds like you should have become a plumber/electrician/truck driver...etc. if they are such better careers. Maybe you should have done more research BEFORE you became a nurse. You are too sad.
Nov 7, '99NurseDude and those who share your opinion.
First let me say that I acknowledge that I now how demanding and undervalued nursing can be. I have been a nurse for almost 15 years on a busy med/surg unit. But your attitude is part of the problem and not the solution. It is easier to complain about what a "pathetic" job it is instead of taking pride in the profession and work to make it better. We as nurses need to stand united and support each other. We need to be activist when ever we can to bring about change in the health care industry, that will allow us greater satisfation in out jobs and allows to provide better patient care. I take great exception and am very offended that a member of my profession can say that what have dedicated my professional life as being Pathetic. I you truly do feel this way, I think it would be best for you and the profession to find something more fulfilling for you. But do not belittle those of us, who have not given up and are keeping the faith. I wish you the best and truly hope that you are able to find a solution that makes to happy.
Nov 11, '99IF you are someone who cares about the health and well being of people and have the ability to constantly learn and challenge yourself, if you can think of inovative ways to improve and prioritize the needs within the system, if you have the ability to be a team player and motivate others than become a
nurse. NURSING IS ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE it comes in many forms and goes in many directions. Nursing has a lot to offer and you get out of it what you put into it. Yes,
I would recommend it.
Nov 11, '99I would be very careful recommending nursing as a career. I have been out of school for 12 years and the change to unlicensed caregivers and such is a real bummer. I worked for 1 year in a med/surg setting. It is almost impossible to give what I consider top quality care when the RN is responsible for a huge load of very ill patients and the help is a "technician" or an "aide"-and he or she is surly and difficult and overworked,too. The liability and the work load are incredible, and the pay isn't good.
I am an RN and I work in a school now and deal with families and kids, pay is even lower but I think the nursing is better.
Nov 15, '99I love nursing----the act of nursing, that is----but I abhor the conditions under which we must work. As for recommending nursing as a career, I would tell people what I've always told them: I suggest that anyone who is interested in nursing, work as a nursing assistant for 6 months to a year. As an assistant they won't have the responsibilities of an LPN or RN, but it will give them a sense of what it's like, and allow them to make a more informed decision.
Katea, Working for a Better World