NP & PA payscale

[nev]

Ok...I'm not trying to stir an argument here wih my question...so here goes:

Generally, are NPs paid more than PAs?

Thanks

Nev

[sirI, MSN, APRN, NP]

Ok...I'm not trying to stir an argument here wih my question...so here goes:

Generally, are NPs paid more than PAs?

Thanks

Nev

It really depends upon location.

In my area, demand for NP and PA is the same in the rural health setting. According to federal guidelines, the position of physician extender can be filled by either discipline. But, the clinics and hospitals have employed NPs only. I have seen no PAs in the area.

As for pay.........that really lies within each institution/facility and agreed upon with contract.

Sorry I can not be more specific. :balloons:

[cgfnp]

There's no such thing as a "scale". PAs/NPs around here (midwest) can do the same stuff for the most part (NPs a little more autonomous) so they get the same offers. Catch is the offers can vary from $50-$100+K/yr depending on a lot of things. You probably would be hard pressed to find anything over $70K the first year until you prove your worth. After that, it's all based on what you can generate (or it ought to be). Hospitals will try to put you in a salary then give you a 3% or so raise a year forever. Forget that! Negotiate with your employer whether they're a hospital, a doc, or otherwise after proving you generate a bundle of money (or not). You should be getting around 30-40% of what you bring into the practice. So, if you can generate only 100K/yr gross, then you're only worth 30-40K/yr. But, if you can generate $1,000,000/yr, then 300-400K/yr should be yours.

This is what I did and I got exactly what I asked for. You should make twice as much as the average NP/PA if you do this.

[Angie_Baby]

How could a mid-level practitioner such as an NP or PA be responsible for generating anywhere close to $1 million dollars?

[sirI, MSN, APRN, NP]

How could a mid-level practitioner such as an NP or PA be responsible for generating anywhere close to $1 million dollars?

Never say never, but, IMHO......it cannot be done.

If you were to see 40 patients every day at a rate of $130.00, five days a week for 40 weeks, you would generate a little over 1 mil. (in a clinic). Those figures are grandiose.

[cgfnp]

Never say never, but, IMHO......it cannot be done.

Most practices it would be laughable to entertain the idea of making that much, but there are ways to do it. Trust me....

[ECMOismygame]

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[nev]

Then what about the new ENPs (Emergency nurse practitioners)? Do they earn the same or more than the PAs in the ER?

Thanks

Nev

[cgfnp]

Then what about the new ENPs (Emergency nurse practitioners)? Do they earn the same or more than the PAs in the ER?

Thanks

Nev

Yes, they do here in the midwest.

[ECMOismygame]

Then what about the new ENPs (Emergency nurse practitioners)? Do they earn the same or more than the PAs in the ER?

Thanks

Nev

they should earn the same in the same place, unless the NP is relegated to only fast track.

and vice versa: a fast track PA would make less than a trauma ER NP

[P_RN, ADN, RN]

Why should "fast track clinic" (walk ins) make a difference in salary?

I can see perhaps not as much exposure to the ER adrenalin rush, but why salary differences?

[ECMOismygame]

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