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Nurse in Northern Ireland with clinical hours deficiencies for NCLEX

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone had any advice for me. I am a staff nurse in Northern Ireland and I trained in QUB school of Nursing. I have applied for licensure through the Michigan Board of Nursing to sit the NCLEX exam. My CGFNS CES report has just been issued and states I have clinical hours deficiencies in Maternal, Children's and Mental Health Nursing, as my branch programme was in Adult Nursing. I have contacted both Michigan BON and CGFNS to see how I can make these hours up and all I have been told is that I need to get a university course to get both theory and practice hours at the same time, even though I already have the theory hours in these areas. I have no idea how to go about this, even if its possible! If anyone has any advice or information at all, I would be so grateful!

Am i rifht in thinking that you did no clinical whatsoever in mental health, maternity and children, did you not do a common foundation year? If that is the case i would look into unis that do the Common foundation year programmes

Sorry right in thinking

Hi, thanks for replying! I did a common foundation programme in year one, where we had 1 additional placement, and mine was in learning disability, so I have no clinical practice in the other 3 areas!

I would approach your uni and ask them if you can sit in on classes again and do 3 placements in the areas you need, its worth s try! If not try and find a CFP programme , my CFP covered all the areas in clinical and theory , but my year was the last year to do CFP , that was in 2010, but universities still do it ,

Thanks I'll try that on monday, fingers crossed!!

loriangel14, RN

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

They may require that clinicals and theory be done together to avoid the concurrency issue.

There is only 13 states that have concurrency , i don't think Michigan is one of them but check :)

Thank you! Do you know how I would check that out? I called Michigan and they said they weren't sure if I had to do the theory and clinicals together, that it was CGFNS' decision, so I checked with them and they said it always has to be together! (is this the concurrency issue?).

Michigan does not have concurrency issues as far as i know :)

Its these 13 states (Alabama, Arizona California, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Vermont, Virginia, Washington)

loriangel14, RN

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

Thank you! Do you know how I would check that out? I called Michigan and they said they weren't sure if I had to do the theory and clinicals together, that it was CGFNS' decision, so I checked with them and they said it always has to be together! (is this the concurrency issue?).

yes that is the concurrency issue.

yes that is the concurrency issue.

Really? Im not sure if it is in Michigan as its one of the easier states to get in too! When you call cgfns , majority of the time you are speaking to a call centre representative , whom are often abrupt and not an officer , i would email cgfns and ask to get clear clarification from an officer if mighigan has concurrency issues

loriangel14, RN

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

Really? Im not sure if it is in Michigan as its one of the easier states to get in too! When you call cgfns , majority of the time you are speaking to a call centre representative , whom are often abrupt and not an officer , i would email cgfns and ask to get clear clarification from an officer if mighigan has concurrency issues

I only meant that having done your theory and clinical hours in the same semester is the concurrency issue. I didn't say it was an issue in Michigan.

You have all been so helpful thank you! I'll email CGFNS today and ask them about Michigan having concurrency issues, I'm hoping I cam make these hours up as continuing education hours through the hospital I'm working it at the minute! Thanks

JustBeachyNurse, RN

Specializes in Complex pediatrics turned LTC/subacute geriatrics. Has 10 years experience.

Technically all states require concurrent theory & clinical. Not all boards of nursing are strictly enforcing this requirement like Nevada and California are right now. If you take theory now and clinical five years from now your education is not likely to be approved by CGFNS or a BoN. Separate semesters (such as fall theory & spring clinical) may be accepted by the other 30 or so states. Again it's ultimately up to the state BoN as to whether or not your education & training meet the minimum standard for nursing education.

There is a difference between concurrency and streamline training, i personally think concurrency is great :) it was the old way which they trained nurses here in the UK, however it is not always feasible to allocate a cohort of sometimes hundreds of nursing students to the same area of placement, they would do 4 weeks surgical theory for example and then all get put on a surgical placement , cos that is what concurrency is being taught theory then placement within the same semester as far as am aware?

ghillbert, MSN, NP

Specializes in CTICU. Has 20 years experience.

You cannot complete the hours as continuing ed at your current hospital that you work at. The hours and practice don't count either if they were paid professional hours. You must do the hours and clinical as part of a unit at a university with a registered nurse program. I would call and ask your uni if you can do single units as a non-degree seeking student.