Older nurses vs younger nurses - page 3

I'm sick and tired of the older nurses vs younger nurses crap. We all have the same damn degree and we do the same damn work. I was at work the other day and two senior nurses were in the break room... Read More

  1. by   Been there,done that
    I'm sure your attitude, spoken aloud or not, is coming through loud and clear.

    The only relationship I strive for with newer nurses is one of support and encouragement.

    Yours should be showing respect, for the experiences we older nurses have not only survived, but learned from.
  2. by   Girlygirl69
    Quote from Been there,done that
    I'm sure your attitude, spoken aloud or not, is coming through loud and clear.

    The only relationship I strive for with newer nurses is one of support and encouragement.

    Yours should be showing respect, for the experiences we older nurses have not only survived, but learned from.
    My dear the only respect the older nurses deserve is the same respect we all deserve. 20+ years or not we are all RN's
  3. by   Been there,done that
    You say you want to "stop the madness", yet you refer to us as "old Broads" and make fun of the lack of experience with some new technology.

    I have recently learned 4 different EMR's with 3 hours of training.

    You have an obvious disrespect towards older nurses, yet complain "newbies"aren't respected.
    My initial response was, respect is a 2 way street, I'm not feeling it coming my way.
  4. by   Girlygirl69
    Quote from Been there,done that
    You say you want to "stop the madness", yet you refer to us as "old Broads" and make fun of the lack of experience with some new technology.

    I have recently learned 4 different EMR's with 3 hours of training.

    You have an obvious disrespect towards older nurses, yet complain "newbies"aren't respected.
    My initial response was, respect is a 2 way street, I'm not feeling it coming my way.
    and so......
  5. by   rn/writer
    Quote from Girlygirl69
    and so......
    And so you might want to consider that demanding respect while harboring contempt is probably not going to give you the results you desire.

    The truth is that the younger nurses have fresh energy and enthusisam, the latest and greatest knowledge, and bright and shiny technology skills that older nurses would do well to welcome and make use of. The older nurses have much more life experience, perseverance and determination (or they would not have lasted so long), and wisdom which is the ability to apply raw knowledge in the right way at the right time.

    The sparks can fly both ways, but so can appreciative regard.

    Nobody, no matter how long they've had RN after their name, should be snacking on a co-worker.
    Last edit by rn/writer on Jul 11, '11
  6. by   Hygiene Queen
    Quote from Girlygirl69
    My dear the only respect the older nurses deserve is the same respect we all deserve. 20+ years or not we are all RN's
    "My dear".... is that meant as an exclamation or is it meant to be condensending?
    If it was the latter, that is incredibly rude.

    Older nurses do command more respect. They've been there and done it.
    The same as respecting your elders.
    Experience = respect.

    I'm not saying we do not all deserve respect, I'm saying that those who have the experience and knowledge and those who have the power to teach us (and know what they are talking about and will save your rear end) command great respect.
  7. by   JRP1120, RN
    I see where the OP is coming from. And, she's ranting and frustrated and yet it seems she's being torn down for doing so while it would be okay for a more experienced nurse to come on these boards and complain about the newbies on their floor but would not be met with the same kind of responses by the newbies.

    Whenever I see these types of posts and someone speaks of the more experienced nurse, somehow, eventually it turns into an "older" age thing. I don't think age has anything to do with it. You can be an experienced nurse at 40 with 18+ yrs under your belt or you can be 40 as a new nurse.

    I understand her frustrations. Nurses, no matter how old or how many yrs of experience should stick together and help one another out, whenever possible. And yes, we're ALL nurses. I'm an older new nurse and I love hearing how those that have gone before me learned and did/do things. I don't think the OP is opposed to that. What isn't right is how these more experienced or older nurses are dishing it out (some of them, not all-there are plenty that are wonderful about it and I've been lucky to only experience that so far, except for maybe one i can recall). Being a new nurse is tough, no matter when you enter the profession. Being made to feel like you know less just because the older nurses had different hurdles to cross or a harder road to get over those hurdles doesn't do anything for the new nurse except make her feel bad. There is a right way and a wrong way to get your point across and if people would sometimes just think before they speak, a lot of this separation among nurses of different generations wouldn't be there. Like another poster said, is it too hard to think first how your comments will affect another human being before you speak them? And yes, it's usually best to just slap a smile on your face and keep your comments to yourself, we have to do it all the time with patients so extend it on down to your coworkers, it's not difficult. As Thumper said in Winnie The Pooh, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!"

    We would live in a much kinder world if more people adopted this thought and exercised it!
  8. by   Been there,done that
    Thanks for the articulate reply, Miranda.
    After I received the"and so", I gave up. That was equal to a "na,nah, na, nah nah.
    there is no reasoning with THAT!
    I sincerely hope .. someday..she learns that us"old broads" are the heart and soul of nursing.
  9. by   Girlygirl69
    So what are the younger nurses?? The @ss of nursing??
  10. by   Girlygirl69
    Quote from Been there,done that
    Thanks for the articulate reply, Miranda.
    After I received the"and so", I gave up. That was equal to a "na,nah, na, nah nah.
    there is no reasoning with THAT!
    I sincerely hope .. someday..she learns that us"old broads" are the heart and soul of nursing.
    You've missed my point entirely. Never have I disrespected any of my coworkers, more or less experienced. I've never had an issue with my peers but my point was that why is that more senior RN's have this need to fell validated and will put down the less experienced nurses. "our education was better, we were better coming out of school, etc" ????? If you want respect shouldn't you give it. When you gossip about others like schoolgirls you will be treated as such. Relax, we get the same check, we work in the same unit, and we are equals. Whatever you think or feel, keep it to yourself and vent at home. Your bitterness, or apparent anger, is poison to moral. A new nurse has enough uphill battle which he or she must overcome, your rudeness is the last thing needed
  11. by   RNDance
    Quote from Girlygirl69
    Whatever I say in my head is my flipping business, what matters is the words that come out my mouth.
    Quote from rn/writer
    And so you might want to consider that demanding respect while harboring contempt is probably not going to give you the results you desire.

    The truth is that the younger nurses have fresh energy and enthusisam, the latest and greatest knowledge, and bright and shiny technology skills that older nurses would do well to welcome and make use of. The older nurses have much more life experience, perseverance and determination (or they would not have lasted so long), and wisdom which is the ability to apply raw knowledge in the right way at the right time.

    The sparks can fly both ways, but so can appreciative regard.

    Nobody, no matter how long they've had RN after their name, should be snacking on a co-worker.
    Huh?
    Your post makes the assumption that any nurse who has been a nurse for a long time is out of the loop as far as technology goes. Wrong, dear. It's not an "either/or" thing when you're talking about "young" (read that "inexperienced") versus "old" (and you can read that "experienced").
    I have been a nurse for over three decades. And oh my yes, I can charge my own cell phone (@@). I can also set up and run CRRT and work with IABP's, HFOV's, independent lung ventilation, and have worked in CVICU's and with solid organ transplant patients. Oh....and a burn unit and as a crisis nurse and a Code Blue leader. I've had my CCRN for many years. And yes, I am one of those nurses who people LOVE taking report from. Newbies? I've gotten hugs from them after I took report (oh Lord were they EVER in over their heads but jeez....coudn't help but feel so bad for them), been named in the unit "thank you" board as being a huge help to them, etc, yada yada. I could go on but gee whiz, it might upset some who think we dinosaurs should pretend we don't know anything so the newbies won't feel inadequate.
    Rest assured that I do not need to validate myself by belittling any new nurse. My experience, knowledge, and expertise are validation enough and stand on their own as testimony to what I am as a nurse. And btw....nursing is not my life, LOL. Got a nice one of those, too.
    Generalization is a hazardous thing, going in either direction. Any nurse, young or old, is an individual and should be treated as such. Girlygirl, I am sure your true feelings shine through any facade of pleasantry that you might think you are projecting.
    How sad for you.
  12. by   rn/writer
    Not making any assumptions except that the younger-in-age nurses appear to have a much higher percentage of people who have grown up with computers and cell phones in hand before they could even crawl. Of course, many of us "senior" nurses have learned and adapted as well, or we probably wouldn't be working where there are zone phones and computer charting and iPads.

    I've been doing computer stuff since 1985. So has my 28 yo co-worker. The only difference is that she was 2 when she started and I was, well, never mind.

    My point was that we all have something to offer. And we all deserve respect for what we have learned and for the ways we can help each other.

    I do find it difficult to understand how someone who rags on her older co-workers and calls them names behind their backs can hide her contempt when she sees them face to face.

    Maybe there's an app for that?
  13. by   anotherone
    We have EMR everyone is proficient.... We have a lot of catty nurses in our unit, nice nurses, gossips, bullies , (yet for others there are no bullies in nursing).......... none of it is young nurses vs old nurses or experienced vs less experienced. it seems to be about personality. there are old, young, experienced, non experienced in all groups.

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