Nurse Charged With Homicide

[Nurse Beth]

Radonda Vaught, a 35 year old nurse who worked at the University of Vanderbilt University Medical Center, has been indicted on charges of reckless homicide. Read Nurse Gives Lethal Dose of Vecuronium

Radonda is the nurse who mistakenly gave Vecuronium (a paralytic) to a patient instead of Versed. The patient died.

[Dsmcrn]

14 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

But when we do that you villainize us.

No ma’am I have never once supported her decisions that day.

[Dsmcrn]

2 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

Not one person has said she intended to do this including myself. Where are you coming up with this stuff?

You pick words out of people’s statements to snap back at.

[Lunah, MSN, RN]

8 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

Sorry, I wasn’t clear I know you didn’t say that but Pixie she isn’t being charged with murder. She is being charged with reckless homicide because Tennessee doesn’t have a provision for negligent homicide.

Ah. Everyone keeps referring to "murder charges." That makes a little more sense. I don't think the prosecution is going to have a hard time meeting the definition based on the contents of the CMS report and the TBI statements.

Above all, the thought of what that patient endured breaks my heart. I had my own issues with a cardiac MRI scan this past summer after postpartum CHF left me unable to lie flat without feeling like I was suffocating (truly horrible feeling), and when I imagine how awful it was for her to basically smother while awake when it was supposed to be something to treat her claustrophobia ... I realize that I am probably biased by the empathy in this case. It honestly has made me avoid these threads. Which I should probably do again. Lol

[Wuzzie]

But you accuse those of us who support the charges of being on a “witch-hunt”, of being judgmental and without the ability to be objective. I’m diligently looking at the same facts as you. I just have happened to come to a different conclusion than you. My viewpoint is predicated on my experience in the critical care arena and my experience as a nurse. I am not one who thinks every mistake made by a nurse should result in burnings at the stake.

[Wuzzie]

4 minutes ago, Dsmcrn said:

You pick words out of people’s statements to snap back at.

The only person snapping has been you. I have been extremely polite.

Also, you didn’t answer the question. What member here has stated she did it with intent? It certainly hasn’t been me

[Wuzzie]

3 minutes ago, Pixie.RN said:

I don't think the prosecution is going to have a hard time meeting the definition based on the contents of the CMS report and the TBI statements. 

The TBI report is particularly damning.

[Dsmcrn]

3 minutes ago, Pixie.RN said:

Ah. Everyone keeps referring to "murder charges." That makes a little more sense. I don't think the prosecution is going to have a hard time meeting the definition based on the contents of the CMS report and the TBI statements.

Above all, the thought of what that patient endured breaks my heart. I had my own issues with a cardiac MRI scan this past summer after postpartum CHF left me unable to lie flat without feeling like I was suffocating (truly horrible feeling), and when I imagine how awful it was for her to basically smother while awake when it was supposed to be something to treat her claustrophobia ... I realize that I am probably biased by the empathy in this case. It honestly has made me avoid these threads. Which I should probably do again. Lol

Again false. People, me included, are referring to “criminal charges”.

And again I lost my dad to 3 delays in care and a misdiagnosis which is why I intentionally make myself be more objective to the pieces of the situation I don’t know.

[Dsmcrn]

5 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

But you accuse those of us who support the charges of being on a “witch-hunt”, of being judgmental and without the ability to be objective. I’m diligently looking at the same facts as you. I just have happened to come to a different conclusion than you. My viewpoint is predicated on my experience in the critical care arena and my experience as a nurse. I am not one who thinks every mistake made by a nurse should result in burnings at the stake.

Again you picked one word

[Dsmcrn]

5 minutes ago, Wuzzie said:

The only person snapping has been you. I have been extremely polite.

Also, you didn’t answer the question. What member here has stated she did it with intent? It certainly hasn’t been me

Extremely polite? Now that’s funny.

i didn’t say anyone said she did with intent. I said that is the key word. She didn’t. I was responding to Pixies comment. I didn’t say “these people say she intended” reread my comment I would cut and paste but it won’t allow me.

[Luchador, CNA, EMT-B]

26 minutes ago, Dsmcrn said:

Some are on a witch hunt here and tear our comments apart. Intent is the key word! There was no intent.

Intent is the key word and no intent to harm somebody is required for negligent homicide.

If you read the report you can see that she admits to making conscious choices to disregard standard, common sense safety norms.

[Wuzzie]

1 minute ago, Dsmcrn said:

Again you picked one word

I believe I used three but I’m not “picking” things out. I’m using direct quotes from you and others. If I was paraphrasing incorrectly then you would have the right to be so angry but I’m not. You say something and I disagree with it and you don’t like that. I understand that because I’m not to thrilled with your verbal attacks on me but rather than get worked up over a stranger on the internet I have politely asked you to dial it back a bit and to quit yelling. You are assuming much about my intent and you are very, very wrong.

[Dsmcrn]

Just now, Luchador said:

Intent is the key word and no intent to harm somebody is required for negligent homicide.

If you read the report you can see that admits to making conscious choices to disregard standard, common sense safety norms.

We have read the CMS report. We have almost all read it. As with everything. We each read things differently. We aren’t going to change each other’s minds.