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Okay, I tried to make the title of the thread as specific as possible.

What does it mean if a school is accredited by neither the NLNAC or CCNE, but is on the list of "Approved" nursing programs from your state's board of nursing. I know that you are able to sit for the NCLEX still, but what does this mean otherwise? I'm confused. :uhoh3:

Thank you to all of you for your replies. Several of you raised some very valid points that I hadn't considered.

I was concerned because there are about 4 programs that I am considering transferring into and 2 of them seem to not be accredited. One of the programs, my top choice, had a pretty good reputation, but they must have lost their accreditation within the last few months. I don't want to go through the program only to find out that I can't seek employment elsewhere. I know that I don't want to live in SC forever, so I guess I just need to contact the BON of the state that I'm considering future residency.

Thanks again to all who responded.

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Read my very early posts on this board. I have NEVER said I was anything but a nursing student. I have always been up front about being a nursing student. To say otherwise is, quite frankly, insulting.

:rolleyes:

When I first read your posts you were often mentioning some vague connection with "legal proceedings" regarding EC grads and could not elaborate on it. People asked you point blank of your background and you answered with a "I can't discuss that for legal reasons." But never mind that.

The point of my comment is that it was not appropriate for someone to give out that kind of advice who has never been through and really does not have a sound understanding of the endorsement process, regardless of what states are involved.

I understand that you use CA as an example because you live there and know more about what is going on there. I'll just say that CA is not a great example to use regarding the licensure process because they are much more the exception, and not the rule. All states vary on some level but CA is very different in this respect.

At one time they scoffed at the NCLEX exam and insisted on administering their own exam developed by the state. Nothing wrong with that, it just demonstrates their individuality and not wanting to do things just because another state does it that way.

As far as the state believing that they are above an authority on a national level in deciding what programs graduate competent nurses and are good enough to be licensed in their state, now that's another story. But I don't live there and have no idea as to what's going through the CA BNE's minds at any given time.

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When I first read your posts you were often mentioning some vague connection with "legal proceedings" regarding EC grads and could not elaborate on it. People asked you point blank of your background and you answered with a "I can't discuss that for legal reasons."

Yes, I have been vague about my WORK history, but NOT about the fact that I am a nursing student. Quite frankly, it's not much different from a HIPAA situation, and I'm not going to disclose details just to satisfy some people on a public message board.

:coollook:

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Thanks to the OP for starting this thread. In my time of desperation, sitting on the waiting list for Spring 05 admission into the ASN program at my CC, I contacted a new LPN program in my area. I just found out they are not accredited. After reading the replies from RN34TX and chris_at_lucas_RN, I have decided to remove them from consideration. One never knows what the future may hold. I'd rather stack the deck in my favor and hold out for an accredited nursing school.

Thanks.

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I understand that you use CA as an example because you live there and know more about what is going on there. I'll just say that CA is not a great example to use regarding the licensure process because they are much more the exception, and not the rule. All states vary on some level but CA is very different in this respect.

Funny that you say California is not a good example, because you've stated on other threads that you want to work here. So do thousands of other RNs who have applied for licenses due to our ratio law.

We're only the biggest state in the union with tons of nursing jobs. Lots of RNs moving here and wanting to travel here, including you. And, guess what? Outside accreditations don't matter.

But, somehow, mentioning California's requirements is "inappropriate"? Just because I'm a nursing student? You don't have to be an RN to figure this out. The board is very clear about this point on their website and in their endorsement application.

:rolleyes:

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Funny that you say California is not a good example, because you've stated on other threads that you want to work here. So do thousands of other RNs who have applied for licenses due to our ratio law.

We're only the biggest state in the union with tons of nursing jobs. Lots of RNs moving here and wanting to travel here, including you. And, guess what? Outside accreditations don't matter.

But, somehow, mentioning California's requirements is "inappropriate"? Just because I'm a nursing student? You don't have to be an RN to figure this out. The board is very clear about this point on their website and in their endorsement application.

:rolleyes:

CA is not a good example because they have very specific and unique criteria for licensure/endorsement in comparison to other states. It has nothing to do with whether or not I want to work there.

I love CA and the ratio law has nothing to do with it although a nice plus. It's just a beautiful place to be in so many ways. I have an endorsement application on my desk that never got filled out because of all of the awful things that I've read about their bitterness toward EC. I am eligible for licensure there but did not continue with it for two reasons:

1. I don't want to go where I'm not wanted

2. I would be doing EC students behind me who are not eligible for licensure a great disservice for offering my skills and service to a state that basically thinks that my ADN is substandard and that I should have gone through a traditional LVN-RN program so that I could sit with other regular RN students struggling to learn how to start IV's and put down NG tubes, things that I've been doing for years but in the eyes of the state need to be repeated.

Lizz, I've read the whole state criteria and how CA thinks that things like "Advanced Medical-surgical Nursing" are not taught in LVN programs in CA so that would need to be fulfilled somehow for new Excelsior graduates.

Advanced medical-surgical nursing?

I'm an ICU RN and you are going to tell me that I need more education in advanced med/surg nursing? Is that not going backwards a bit?

I was not trying to degrade you as a nursing student. I was only trying to point out that since you are a student and not yet licensed that you do not fully understand the entire process by saying that accreditation doesn't matter.

Yes, in CA, only what CA wants matters. That's the mentality.

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Nursing: Licensure, Certification, and Accreditation

New schools are not accredited until 2-3 years after first 2 classes graduate and NXLEX scores known; school able to describe how program has functioned, identify stength/weaknesses and any correction plans, how meeting goals of accreditation body etc.

If successful, accreditation usually retroactive.

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Check out:

Nursing: Licensure, Certification, and Accreditation

New schools are not accredited until 2-3 years after first 2 classes graduate and NXLEX scores known; school able to describe how program has functioned, identify stength/weaknesses and any correction plans, how meeting goals of accreditation body etc.

If successful, accreditation usually retroactive.

Very good point. I guess I thought we were talking about schools that either lost accreditation that they once had or decided to let it expire and not renew.
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I had a similar inquirey on another thread-

I am an RN w/ an AAS. licensed in two states. I want to get a BSN, and the program and school I am most interested in is not accredited by the NLNAC nor the CCLE.

I have been advised that since I am already a licensed RN, the only restriction would be that many graduate degree programs would not accept me into grad school with a BSN from the school I'm interested in. This would only be a problem if I wanted to get an MS.

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