North Orange County ROP LVN Program

tinyscrafts · May 19, 2006

Send for the application rubric, They have an info night and they went thru it all. A BS gives you 20pts

the GPA points apply only if have only a H.S. diploma

the MA class is worth 5.

CNA is worth 5, but worth 10 if you passed the state test, and if you work for 1-6 mos it's 15

That's why i'm thinking about it... but it's alot of hours away from my little one (childcare issues blah..) so if i don't need it to get in I won't

wantstobeanurse · May 19, 2006

Hi,
Please read message #10 in this thread. I offered some suggestions there on how you could increase your chances on getting accepted.
To answer your question more specifically, it is better to take a CNA course. It will give you a better insight as to what nurses have to deal with on a daily basis. Besides, when CNAs are busy or are not readily available, LVNs and RNs help out with CNA duties, and answer patient's call light, so you should be able to step in whenever necessary. Also, as an LVN or RN, you will be supervising them in the hospital setting, and what a better way to understand their plight than being a CNA yourself at some point. Also, ROP gives you points for CNA, and more if you have actually worked with pay as a CNA. They may give you points for MA but it is definitely not as high as you would get for CNA.
MAs work in a doctor's clinic primarily, and they assist the doctors or nurse practitioners. The focus is different. They mainly do vital signs, measure height, weight, and draw blood if you are also certified as a phlebotomist. If you are also certified to take x-rays, you can perform x-rays as well. But those are additional training on top of your medical assistant training. However, you won't be actually taking care of unstable sickly people the way nurses do. You are considered an auxiliary to a doctor to help him in his diagnosis. You basically do the preliminary routine checks like height, weight, vital signs, filing, greeting patients, and showing them to their rooms, stocking up supplies in the room, and answering phones. Also if you were trained in medical billing and coding, you would do that and spend a lot of time reading doctors notes, and on the computer.
But if you really want to be an LVN or RN someday, starting out as a CNA would be better for you in the long run.
You said you have a BS degree already, ROP actually gives you points for that as well.
There are actually a lot of people who apply as well, and they may also possess BS degrees, some even have MS degrees. However, if you have a good GPA, that's another plus. You actually get certain points depending on your GPA. Obviously, having a GPA between 3.5 - 4.0 gives you more points than a "C" or 3.0 GPA.
Hope that helps!

Hey, thanks for all the insights....it really helped.. a lot....thanks again...

wantstobeanurse · Jun 1, 2006

Hi,
Please read message #10 in this thread. I offered some suggestions there on how you could increase your chances on getting accepted.
To answer your question more specifically, it is better to take a CNA course. It will give you a better insight as to what nurses have to deal with on a daily basis. Besides, when CNAs are busy or are not readily available, LVNs and RNs help out with CNA duties, and answer patient's call light, so you should be able to step in whenever necessary. Also, as an LVN or RN, you will be supervising them in the hospital setting, and what a better way to understand their plight than being a CNA yourself at some point. Also, ROP gives you points for CNA, and more if you have actually worked with pay as a CNA. They may give you points for MA but it is definitely not as high as you would get for CNA.
MAs work in a doctor's clinic primarily, and they assist the doctors or nurse practitioners. The focus is different. They mainly do vital signs, measure height, weight, and draw blood if you are also certified as a phlebotomist. If you are also certified to take x-rays, you can perform x-rays as well. But those are additional training on top of your medical assistant training. However, you won't be actually taking care of unstable sickly people the way nurses do. You are considered an auxiliary to a doctor to help him in his diagnosis. You basically do the preliminary routine checks like height, weight, vital signs, filing, greeting patients, and showing them to their rooms, stocking up supplies in the room, and answering phones. Also if you were trained in medical billing and coding, you would do that and spend a lot of time reading doctors notes, and on the computer.
But if you really want to be an LVN or RN someday, starting out as a CNA would be better for you in the long run.
You said you have a BS degree already, ROP actually gives you points for that as well.
There are actually a lot of people who apply as well, and they may also possess BS degrees, some even have MS degrees. However, if you have a good GPA, that's another plus. You actually get certain points depending on your GPA. Obviously, having a GPA between 3.5 - 4.0 gives you more points than a "C" or 3.0 GPA.
Hope that helps!

HI! How was the pre-assessment test? Did you find it hard? What steps should i take to ensure passing? Any books you can recommend that i read to prepare?

Thank you!!

maleRN2b_one · Jun 2, 2006

The pre-assessment test was not hard. You just have to be fast, though, in answering the questions. It is basic English, and math through algebra. They say to use a GED review book, but I think that may be overdoing it. Overall, don't worry about the test too much. It's not hard at all! They take in about 300 students after this test, for the prereq course which is Fund I. This prereq class is crucial. It is important to get an A on this one. You could almost guarantee acceptance into the 13-month program if you get an A on this. Most of the people in my class, if not all, have gotten A's on this class. The flipside is I have known a lot of people who have gotten C's on this class who didn't get in. I cannot stress the importance of this prereq class enough. However, Fund I isn't hard if you study everyday, and try to do all the assigned readings before lecture. Also, listen and remember everything said in the lecture. Don't forget about the homework assigments too. Basically, if you do get into the prereq class, give it your 100% commitment.

Hope that helps!

wantstobeanurse · Jun 2, 2006

The pre-assessment test was not hard. You just have to be fast, though, in answering the questions. It is basic English, and math through algebra. They say to use a GED review book, but I think that may be overdoing it. Overall, don't worry about the test too much. It's not hard at all! They take in about 300 students after this test, for the prereq course which is Fund I. This prereq class is crucial. It is important to get an A on this one. You could almost guarantee acceptance into the 13-month program if you get an A on this. Most of the people in my class, if not all, have gotten A's on this class. The flipside is I have known a lot of people who have gotten C's on this class who didn't get in. I cannot stress the importance of this prereq class enough. However, Fund I isn't hard if you study everyday, and try to do all the assigned readings before lecture. Also, listen and remember everything said in the lecture. Don't forget about the homework assigments too. Basically, if you do get into the prereq class, give it your 100% commitment.
Hope that helps!

Thank you again for the fast response! I am really worried about the test, so it is time pressured -right?

I dont worry much about English, but MATH is my weakness, algebra ughhh! Anyway, i really enjoy reading your posts & replies, goodluck on your studies!

NrseMichelle · Jul 23, 2006

Hello all! I just found this board on accident and I found these posts. I graduated from NOCROP last July with my LVN license. If you have any questions about the program, feel free to email me at [email protected].

Good Luck to all of you attempting to try and those who are already in this class!!

ef0zzy · Nov 3, 2006

I will be graduating the NOCROP program this July! It's a great school with excellent teachers! I already had my pre-reqs completed for RN, wasn't into the wait list, got into ROP and going to be starting my LVN-BSN in the fall. I made the best choice going to NOCROP. Best of all 24 units are going to be transferred towards my BSN. They take 60 students into thier program and 10 alternates, if you get in good luck and have a great year :)

So wait is there like an LVN-BSN program that ROP offers? Where will you be attending... I've been looking at Concorde/American Career College/ROP... Im actually taking prereqs to set me up if I want to get into a Cal State *i believe that units arent transferable ... so im taking Anatomy now... then Physiology & Microbio*... and u mention the alternatives.. are they involved within the program or just basically on a waiting list?

NOCROP is so close you know and ive just recently read about it so its becoming more intriguing compared to a private school *which we all know takes lots of $$$$*

congrats too btw haha

tinyscrafts · Nov 3, 2006

Has anyone else taken the assesment test lately??

They are testing right now. who3lse, it's an LVN program and for cheap too. if you are interested i'd call them today.

ef0zzy · Nov 4, 2006

Has anyone else taken the assesment test lately??
They are testing right now. who3lse, it's an LVN program and for cheap too. if you are interested i'd call them today.

yeahh i really should considering the private colleges ive looked at have said the tuition is about 25-28k ... i believe the ROP program is like a few thousand? .... the problem i have is that i really havent heard ppl graduating from there ... and like idk how the teachers are... but in addition to that ..

im not sure what to do POST lvn program... i heard you need to work for a short amount of time before you can apply for an RN program... and + i waiting list for the mobility programs around the area are still like 1 year minimum *compared to 2 for other students*...

private might be the best option huh? American Career College // Concorde I heard are getting their RN programs in place so thats really enticing me to look harder with them

zencmt510 · Oct 25, 2007

what about bay area students who are interested in taking the nocrop? I live in near hayward and intrigue with the rop. But I do have a relative who lives in san diego.

I'm currently working as an OB Technician in Labor and Delivery and I act somewhat like a CNA already but without the certification. Since my job descriptions are described as assisting nurses and performing surgeries, how does that work then? I've got the insights of the nurse's duties and daily activities. Even dealing with the unit secretary and act as one when they go on lunch or breaks. So, I'm practically all in one person. Many nurses I've worked with encouraged me to do nursing since I'm already taking some parts of patient care (of course I'm not giving any medicines, that's out of my sop)

I need more information and will i be able to get accepted even though i live out here in hayward rather than in la?

Any help would be great

Cheers,

Vanessa

photolurch · Jan 11, 2008

ROP is a great program, I graduated from it in 1991 Summer Class. You can see my picture on their walls, I am one of the males. They teach you al ot at the program and make sure you suceed.

Brandon R.N.

THENIZZZEIL · Feb 14, 2008

A friend of mine along with myself have considered this program. She actually brought it up to me recently and i found it to be more PRACTICAL in my situation. We both go to LBCC and are taking the CNA (Fund. of Nursing) rite now and are stationed at Bixby Knolls.

I told her i had taken the entracne test at ACC (american career college) and told her the price was $30,000 for a 12 month program. When she gave me THIS option, i almost felt liek i owed her $27,000, cuz thats how much I would save by joining this program. I believe the 13-month program is 2 - 3,000...a farcry from what the private schools are charging.

From what I understand, there is no financial aid..and the point system is pretty fair. Since we will be completing our CNA in march, the next session is in MAY i believe.

We both have our RN pre-reqs, but the waitlist for other college is hit and miss....however if we can get our feet wet by being in the LVN program, it will give us a slight advantage in getting in the 3rd semester of the RN at other colleges...as well as actually being in the field rather than waiting, and waiting, and waiting...

I heard this program is alot better than the current LBCC VN program, but that is just a rumour...either way, it seems like for those who have the RN pre-reqs along with their CNA will find this to be advantageous and practial rather than waiting or paying 30,000$ for the private school colleges.

Goodluck to those and for any that will be joinining us this year, feel free to say hello!

-neil puzon