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Sure no problem Well i don't know which instructors teach the fund 1, it might be Cathy Gutneckt, Shes a nice lady, she's a bit soft spoken but she runs through the lectures pretty well. Like they always say, if she says it once, twice, 3x, its probably going to be on the test If she is the instructor...then she probably will be your instructor for Endocrine, Neuro and GI in the LVN Program...her style of teaching doesnt change between modules so if you can pick up on her style in GI, then you can expect the same. LVN PROGRAM Most instrctuors have a 1 2 3 quiz format...and they go as follows quiz 1 is A&P quiz 2 is diagnostic studies etc quiz 3 is the diseases however, 2 and 3 can be interchanged depending on the instrutor some modules, like Cardio are VERYYY long that they have it broken down in 4 quizes. However, for that FINAL EXAM. lymphatic system isnt "quized on" so its incorporated in your final. So not only do you have to know the a&P, diseases, values, from quiz 1 - 4...but you will also be asked to know the lymphatic system in your final. Other systems like Nutrition are so short, that they may only quiz you twice before the final, so maintain the grade before the final My method of passing each module was very simple maintain atleast a 75% before going into the final and you have reached your safe zone #1...should something happen, and you fail a final, you can retake the final. But...if you have a 74% and you get a 74% on the final your out of the program. If you have a 80% in the class and you get a 74% on the final. you still FAIL, however you get to retake the final again. That is considered a LIFE LINE. you get 2 life lines through the program. While there are 15 modules in the LVN program, that is only part of the ordeal There are 5 skills test skills test #1 - Pharmacology practicum...The instructors from pharmacology will give you a paper of about 80 drugs, and you are required to create med cards. Then you will be scheduled a time and day at the end of that module to be tested by 1 of 3 instrcutors. Questions like "what is the normal DIG level?" "Can Lantus be mixed?" "what is the onset of Regular Insulin?" "when giving Lovenox do you aspirate?" stufff like that...but you have your med cards so you can flash at them. Skills test 2 (injection day) AFter you pass the pharmacology practicum, you guys have a skills day which you are required to perform injections with a partner. Before you can even pass meds at clinical you have to stick and get stuck by a Insulin syringe (with Normal saline), TB syringe injection, IM INJECTION (fun fun fun) and a few other procedures i believe. SKills test 3 (which is really called Level 1 skills) You get a booklet of skills, NG TUBE insertion, G-TUBE MED administration, Foley Catheter insertion, Dry sterile dressing, etc etc etc and there is STEPS that you have to follow. there are perhaps 5 BOLD steps, that if you miss any of them you automatically fail, and have to retake the skills test. On test day, you are required to do 2 skills, 1 sterile and one hands on...so say DSD and NG TUbe insertion or FC Insertion and G Tube med administration. There is always MATH INVOLVED. you HAVE to get 100% on your math in order to pass...you cant kill a patient...hehe skills test 4 (level 2) this is pertaining to the Procuedure booklet. This will include the back half of this booklet. and can include anything from the first half. So other procudures like Z-track administration, Trache Care etc and INSULINS (ahh yes insulins) But however, this test is more complex, becuase they will give you all the synringes, all the needles, a bunch of vials and you have to build your needle and syringe combo...and while that may seem easy you have to pick the right vial too..so if your math is wrong say you get 1ml of an answer when it was reallly 2 ml,.and you draw up 1ml..then..you fail...OR...if you need to draw 1.5mL and you picked the wrong vial and only 1mL is available...you fail..and you get to retake it. As far as the insulins...they will give you a scenario ..Pt BS is 262, and then you will get a MAR and charting sheet and basically if its sliding scale then follow the sliding scale, etc pull the right insulin, administer it. Questions like, what will raise BS, what lowers BS, what is the onset peak duration of that insulin, what can it be mixed with, it...all before you can even administer it. (math too...all day everyday) and that is just skills test level 2 the last level 3, is care planning. you will get like 4 or 5 scenarios and given a NANDA Sheet...pick the right nanda, pick a goal, 3 interventions 3 rationales etc ---- Careplans. There are 6 careplans for certain modules...Cardio example. Go to a hospital, pick a patient that will fit well for your cardio care plan. Ex. A pt with CHF. At the end of the day your careplan may be 15 or 25 pages long. You will have adequate time to complete this. But this may be the pass or fail factor in a module. Example. If you have a 80 on quiz 1, a 92 on quiz 2 and a 78 on quiz 3 you are technically passing going into the final. If your careplan grade is 30 out of 50, if it is enough to bring your grade down below the 75% average, you are still at risk of failing the module...barring you dont pass the final.. Enjoy it, its a challenge, Goodluck. I have been helped my others during my schooling. It is my duty to return to those who i can help..Feel free to ask me. "Anything worth having is worth fighting for"

hehe, thats funny how you mention that, i had a similar post about me entering the NORTH ORANGE COUNTY REGIONAL OCCUPATIONAL PROGRAM (NOCROP LVN) in Anaheim California. I had closed that post, by saying that I got in in JUNE 2008 and just graduated July 17, 2009. I totally forgot about this post. Thanks for the replies though..anyways to update the situation I was ready to get into the LVN program at LBCC, but i was taking a CNA (required) course and had to take their "transition" class before entering. The problem was they rescheduled the transition class 2 hours earlier and i was unable to get into that program since i would be in Clinical at that time. Long story short, the reps at LBCC did anything and everything to get me into other programs by writing letters of recommendation, etc etc...NOCROP accepted me a few weeks after my CNA program ended and graduated recently. I must say i talked to about 20 people who did the LVN to RN route and all said the same thing about it being much more helpful to go that route and the RN was a breeze. I take my boards in a few weeks i assume, my ATT should be coming in anytime. I feel much mroe comfortable going into ANY RN program. I know a handful of people that suffocate in the RN programs or fail somewhere in the middle (2nd or 3rd) semester and have nothing to fall back on... Since, I still have subpar "sciences" i probably would have a hard time getting into LBCC RN PROGRAM. other options are Cypress college, West CoaST university and Santa Ana college, since their entrance requirments arent as strict. Thanks again for any replies Goodluck to those in school I will update my next journey! Neil Puzon NOCROP CLass A 2009 Historian

replying back to my post months ago i just graduated the program july 17, 2009 whew..i came from 4 years of college and this school tested my limits to the max they are rigourous, whats great is they make you take the ATITESTING.com "baby boards" practice NCLEX near the end of the program..to test your probability of you passing the NCLEX. I must say, i woke up on the wrong side of the bed, my classmates were stunned to find out we were getting tested randomly...we all did well, i got a 96% probability passing the first time. Point being, you cant really study for the nclex, but they do a great job of instilling their style of teaching in your head, and i must say while they were all 180 critical thinking questions, i was able to break down the question rather simply. If you can get into this program, its not the easiest, but i promise you, you will feel so confident after leaving this program. for more questions feel free to ask me. Goodluck to all Class A 2009 ps. i came from lbcc, with 60 points (75 required), and never took a class at NOCROP before entering the lvn program..musta had a great interview *wink wink*

yes i came from long beach city college, i didnt feel qualified either, since i wasnt "bread" there...they like to take their own students but a good amount of college credit, and a good interview can always sway them to take a chance on you. I was an alternate in june 2008 - i just graduated july 17, 2009...its a rigourous program...by far one of the best..check out our scores on the bvnpt ask for betty at Nocrop, say Neil sent ya! best of luck!

Hi guys, It has been a few months since I've been on this site and I would just like to say that I GOT IN at NOCROP this JUNE 2008 and will be graduating JULY 2009. I am part of CLASS A. I am just updating you all that I am very thankful to be part of such a wonderful program. I got a letter 1 WEEK after it was dated, I didn't think I had got in...Coming to class for Orientation made me realize that I AM PRETTY LUCKY. I literlly walked in to that school and seeked to see if I qualified for their program a few weeks before class started, got an interview within a few days and got an ALTERNATE STATUS letter. My paperwork from LBCC and Interview must have been good enough to be accepted. I am the ONLY one who is a straight transfer from another school. Most students have taken their Fundamentals I class prior. I am thankful and very very lucky to be in this situation as it seems like I just "walked" in. I would have not been able to start the LBCC VN program til 2009. I was desperate enough to go to a Private school and pay $31,000, just so I could get my career started. THANK YOU ROP FOR THIS WONDERFUL OPPURTUNITY! On the first day of class a handful of people didn't show up for various reasons and ALL ALTERNATES GOT IN. We just finished our first week of clinicals (3rd week) and I am excited to be part of this program. I thank the wonderful staff and school for giving me this oppurtunity. Also I'd like to thank my instructors/staff from LBCC for all the letters and paperwork to get me to this level.

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A friend of mine along with myself have considered this program. She actually brought it up to me recently and i found it to be more PRACTICAL in my situation. We both go to LBCC and are taking the CNA (Fund. of Nursing) rite now and are stationed at Bixby Knolls. I told her i had taken the entracne test at ACC (american career college) and told her the price was $30,000 for a 12 month program. When she gave me THIS option, i almost felt liek i owed her $27,000, cuz thats how much I would save by joining this program. I believe the 13-month program is 2 - 3,000...a farcry from what the private schools are charging. From what I understand, there is no financial aid..and the point system is pretty fair. Since we will be completing our CNA in march, the next session is in MAY i believe. We both have our RN pre-reqs, but the waitlist for other college is hit and miss....however if we can get our feet wet by being in the LVN program, it will give us a slight advantage in getting in the 3rd semester of the RN at other colleges...as well as actually being in the field rather than waiting, and waiting, and waiting... I heard this program is alot better than the current LBCC VN program, but that is just a rumour...either way, it seems like for those who have the RN pre-reqs along with their CNA will find this to be advantageous and practial rather than waiting or paying 30,000$ for the private school colleges. Goodluck to those and for any that will be joinining us this year, feel free to say hello! -neil puzon

yes i am in Cali, Long Beach City College. I have a total GPA of 3.4..but i think colleges here in california want at least a 2.5 GPA between the 3 sciences im definetly interested in any other programs I am 22, but i feel old..i think becuase i have high expectations of myself. I don't mind doing the LVN...i wouldnt even mind going to ACC or Concorde, but i think im kind of ina situation where if i were to spend $$$$ on an LVN program. I am equally qualified to do it at a Community college for Dirt Cheap. My goal is to be an RN, if i can get in straight a way...or if i have to do the LVN to RN thats fine. I just like to keep the ball moving instead of hoping to get accepted Thanks for any advice and everyones fast reply! PS...i spoke to Judi Wisenbaker at the LBCC nursing couseling office and she said there isnt a waitlist for the LVN program. THey don't care if you have C's across the board as long as you maintain a 2.5 OVERALL. I'm well quilified for the LVN program, but im not gauranting anything..but i have a good chance to get in the LVN program ASAP. -Neil

Hi everyone, I would first like to introduce myself. I am Neil Puzon, 22 Years Old. I believe the Pre-Reqs for all Community College ADN Nursing Programs are Anatomy 1, Microbiology, and Physiology 1. I recently completed my Physiology Class over the Summer, but I still did not meet the 2.5 GPA for the 3 Sciences. I recieved a "B" in Physio, which was great, but I needed an A because I have 2 C's in the Anatmy and Micro class, which I took my first year out of High School in 2004/2005. I would really did not want to take the Anatomy or Micro class again, so I read that some school (Golden West) calculates 4 classes instead of 3, which includes English 1 along with the 3 Sciences. I got an A in my English 1 class so between Eng, Anat, Phys, Micro, I qualify for the 2.5 GPA. My question is. Does anyone know any other schools that I can attempt to apply to? I would love to stick to LBCC, but I just don't meet the requirements, re-taking one of the classes still doesn't guarantee me an INSTANT ACCEPTANCE. My friend applied with 2 A's & 1 B and stlll did not get accepted to next semesters program. I think they are really searching for experienced students or students with ALL A's. -- My friend introduced me into another option. He advised that maybe we should take some LVN (pre-req) classes. Pharmacology, CNA (nursing fund.), Transition to LVN, while we wait to get accepted. We took a Pharmacology class this semester (just ended today...and i passed) and I signed up for the other Pre-Reqs next semester for the LVN program kinda to just keep myself busy and maybe kill 2 birds with 1 stone. I was almost gauranteed that the wait-list for an LVN Program is almost NONE. Which translates to, me being in the LVN Program immediately following my Spring Semester in 2008...starting the LVN Program in June/July. -- I'm beginning to think that maybe this route may be better...Take the LVN program, finish in 12 months...then transfer from LVN-RN thereafter rather than staying stagnant doing nothing while I wait for the ADN call up. If anyone has any opinions or options for my Career, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks again for everones time. PS. How do schools like Cintenella Freeman, Mt. St. Mary's compare to their acceptance for programs. Money isn't much of an issue as I've saved over the years for my education. Sincerely, Neil Puzon:monkeydance: