No job in nursing in the Philippines, what to do?

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So here's the thing: Worked in a call center as I waited to have my results for the boards.. when I got my license, I resigned, which was actually around last week of December 2007. Then on, tried to get into trainings and so I got into one very good hospital and finished my Red Cross and IV Therapy Training... After which, still no job. Now, I took the NCLEX, and I am not that confident that I passed... No results yet. Its my birthday today and I feel depressed coz I still no growth in my career. My parents do not want me working anything else BUT as nurse!!! So I spend my time trying to look for jobs to no avail..... :crying2:

What do you think I should do next?

Apply to Saudi Arabia?

Where I don't know if thats gonna be safe for someone like me?

Need advice. And thanks.

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Read this from today's paper......

St. Joseph Medical Center

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UN Ave.

cor. Gen. Luna St.

Ermita, Manila

#(02) 557-35-74 to 75

We are now accepting OJT with salary, accommodation and with food allowance for licensed and/or non-licensed PT's, OT's, Nurses, Midwives, Caregivers, Nursing Aides, Practical Nurses and other medical allied courses.

Interested applicants should submit their resumes thru email at [email protected]

source: Manila Bulletin

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I am basing poor on the posts here where the nurses claim to come the America for the "American Dream".

I understand their is a cultural difference, here in the US when people get to be a certain age, they assume responsibility for their own rent, food, etc. Many work full time while going to school full time. Americans seem to admire one who makes it it on their own with out the financial support of their parents.

1.The people who post in this forum does not represent the entire population of the Filipinos so it would be wrong to assume that ALL are poor here in the phil.

Many are poor but NOT ALL are poor.There is a big difference there.

But

2.You said you understand our cultural differences and yet you keep on insisting that dependents like us are considered losers in your country. We are here in the phil sir and living with our parents its not something to be considered as "loser". like one member has posted,we have very close ties with our family and relatives. Most people only move out when we have families of our own.Thats how it is in our country and does not automatically mean that we are less hardworking compared to your students who worked full time just to support themselves.

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I am basing poor on the posts here where the nurses claim to come the America for the "American Dream".

I understand their is a cultural difference, here in the US when people get to be a certain age, they assume responsibility for their own rent, food, etc. Many work full time while going to school full time. Americans seem to admire one who makes it it on their own with out the financial support of their parents.

2.You said you understand our cultural differences and yet you keep on insisting that dependents like us are considered losers in your country. We are here in the phil sir and living with our parents its not something to be considered as "loser". like one member has posted,we have very close ties with our family and relatives. Most people only move out when we have families of our own.Thats how it is in our country and does not automatically mean that we are less hardworking compared to your students who worked full time just to support themselves.

I'm sorry but I don't see even a suggestion in Alexk49's post that supports your statement that s/he considers adults still living with their parents to be "losers". S/he is pointing out the cultural difference between the Philippines and North America. It's true that once people here reach a certain age it's usual for them to move out of their parents' homes and make homes of their own, take responsibility fro their own support and pay their own bills. The current generation of North American young people has stayed in the nest longer than any other preceding generation; I moved out of my family home when I was 19 and there was no turning back, while my oldest offspring lived at home until the age of 23.

Potential employers do not ask if an applicant lives with Mummy and Daddy, but they do look for evidence that the applicant will do the job they are hired for. Being responsible for one's self in North America is a sign of maturity and accountability. I work with quite a few nurses who have graduated in recent years who still live with their parents and that was not a barrier for them to gain employment due to our nursing human resources shortage. But I have noticed that they do not have the same work ethic as those who are self-supporting. They are not as hard-working, plain and simple.

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I'm sorry but I don't see even a suggestion in Alexk49's post that supports your statement that s/he considers adults still living with their parents to be "losers". S/he is pointing out the cultural difference between the Philippines and North America. It's true that once people here reach a certain age it's usual for them to move out of their parents' homes and make homes of their own, take responsibility fro their own support and pay their own bills. The current generation of North American young people has stayed in the nest longer than any other preceding generation; I moved out of my family home when I was 19 and there was no turning back, while my oldest offspring lived at home until the age of 23.

Potential employers do not ask if an applicant lives with Mummy and Daddy, but they do look for evidence that the applicant will do the job they are hired for. Being responsible for one's self in North America is a sign of maturity and accountability. I work with quite a few nurses who have graduated in recent years who still live with their parents and that was not a barrier for them to gain employment due to our nursing human resources shortage. But I have noticed that they do not have the same work ethic as those who are self-supporting. They are not as hard-working, plain and simple.

take a look at his other posts and you will see that he used the word "loser"....yes,so if you truly understand our cultural differences then why do you keep on comparing the two?

And maybe i should mention this one because I have this feeling that you think of dependents like us as someone who are just waiting for our allowances from"mommy and dadddy"...I dont know if you are aware but a lot of these people who still live with their parents actually work and are the ones who pay for the bills,who spend their money for their younger siblings tuition. The thing is they still live with their parents because a lot of them still feel the need to support their younger siblings and aging parents.

Now,if you think that the ones who live with their parents are less hardworking,that is your opinion, not necessarily a fact.

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I never said anyone living at home is a loser, but employers in the US prefer that a nurse who is going to be overseeing care for sick people, have the skills to care for themselves.

So my point is coming from a foreign country to work you have to be independent is your own life. Many adult children who live at home don't have have great skills for coping in the real world, in fact there a term for adult children who's parents make all the decision - they are called "helicopter parents".

As Jan mentioned many kids return home from school, that is because they can't afford to get their own job since it is so expensive to live alone.

I go back to my initial premise, that in the USA if two candidates were equal most managers would choose the nurse who has life skills by living alone. Just a difference in culture but is one wants to work in the USA , you should be aware of the culture of the country you desire to live and work.

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Potential employers do not ask if an applicant lives with Mummy and Daddy, but they do look for evidence that the applicant will do the job they are hired for. Being responsible for one's self in North America is a sign of maturity and accountability. I work with quite a few nurses who have graduated in recent years who still live with their parents and that was not a barrier for them to gain employment due to our nursing human resources shortage. But I have noticed that they do not have the same work ethic as those who are self-supporting. They are not as hard-working, plain and simple.

This is very true for a majority of people who stay at home with Mom and Dad in the USA.

However it is not as true for the Philippines. This is a major point of misunderstanding here. In the Philippines it is very common for someone to remain living with parents well into the 20s until he or she is married and even then the married family simply adds onto the house they are living in with parents and remains there. The parents then are supported by the children more than the other way around.

It is important to understand the major difference in the social dynamic here in the Philippines versus that of the USA so that these sorts of generally accurate statements for Americans are not applied to Filipinos with the same brush.

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This is very true for a majority of people who stay at home with Mom and Dad in the USA.

However it is not as true for the Philippines. This is a major point of misunderstanding here. In the Philippines it is very common for someone to remain living with parents well into the 20s until he or she is married and even then the married family simply adds onto the house they are living in with parents and remains there. The parents then are supported by the children more than the other way around.

It is important to understand the major difference in the social dynamic here in the Philippines versus that of the USA so that these sorts of generally accurate statements for Americans are not applied to Filipinos with the same brush.

thanks hushdawg for clarifying the difference ..

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Its understandable why pinkroyalty has been reacting the way she has. No matter how you look at it, the comments above do seem a little bit offensive.. not in a way that was outright, but sort of implied to soften the blow. We all just need to be aware that these differences between our cultures DO exist, RESPECT these and move on. besides, the thread here was posted to seek for advice regarding employment, not to comment on each others life choices or cultures right?!!! :)

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Its understandable why pinkroyalty has been reacting the way she has. No matter how you look at it, the comments above do seem a little bit offensive.. not in a way that was outright, but sort of implied to soften the blow. We all just need to be aware that these differences between our cultures DO exist, RESPECT these and move on. besides, the thread here was posted to seek for advice regarding employment, not to comment on each others life choices or cultures right?!!! :)

Thank you for understanding me.I used to just lurk here and try my best to keep my mouth shut but something has to be said to correct some misconceptions . Sorry your thread is somewhat off topic now.

I just hope that some people here wont bring anymore topic about who's more hardworking blah blah.. Because both are doing hardwork in their own ways. The young Americans who live independently works hard to support themselves. AND so as the Filipinos who live with their parents and work to help in supporting the whole family.

So back to the topic: What do we do?

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"You said you understand our cultural differences and yet you keep on insisting that dependents like us are considered losers in your country. We are here in the phil sir and living with our parents its not something to be considered as "loser". like one member has posted,we have very close ties with our family and relatives. Most people only move out when we have families of our own.Thats how it is in our country and does not automatically mean that we are less hardworking compared to your students who worked full time just to support themselves"

I never used the word loser. Here in the US students go away to college, not only do they learn college level courses but learn to be independent in their daily living ( how to budget money, how to do laundry, how to prepare a meal, how to avoid temptations of life). As a parent you doin't tell you kid what to study or what profession to go into. Both my lkids went overseas in college, which was a great experience to learn a different culture. It seems that is not an experience your Universities provide, the opportunity to live at school and travel.

Back to the topic of working in the USA, when looking for employment the employer will ask what previous jobs a you have had. That is a standard question, you can tell by that answer alone if someone lives at home with their parents. Graduating from school and not working at all - is not desirable in the USA unless you have a great explanation. For example if one was the sole caretaker of an aged parent who has just died the employer would understand. I bring up this difference since the majority of the posts here are about the American Dream. Having any job, shows personal responsiblity and committment to a job. Sitting at home praying is not seen as a proactive way of gaining employment or helping your family.

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Alex49, you have a fundamental lack of understanding with regard to other cultures; that is evident with your posts.

Here in the Philippines it is not possible for most students to obtain a job because the work hours are a much higher demand than in the USA and aside from that employers do not hire students. They just don't. It is rare if not impossible to gain any sort of employment whatsoever before the age of 18.

With all these things in mind, it is not in the realm of possibility for a Pinoy nurse in the Philippines to study, work and live independantly.

What does happen is that students come from the provincial areas into the cities and live while studying in dorms and such but all this has to be funded by family back home. Going back to the point where sometimes 6 or 8 family members are working to put a single person through school.

Once the student graduates, he or she goes to review schools for local board, passes the local board then goes on to apply for licensure in the states, review for and then take/pass NCLEX.

This is the ideal scenario in order to have the highest passing rate.

What really ends up happening is that nurses take other jobs because they need to help support the family... while living at home with them.

Then they end up taking NCLEX a year or more after everything else... this increases the failure rate... according to NCSBN the passing rate for those who wait more than two months is only 44%.

You want to know WHY there is a high failure rate for NCLEX in the Philippines? That's exactly why.. because they are not taking NCLEX right away, they are staying at home with Mom and Dad and working thier butts off to help support the family.

I wish you could come here and live for a year or so among the people you are criticizing so that you can understand why it is completely illogical to apply American logic to the Philippine situation.

Please, when you are talking about other people in other cultures and lands try to be sensitive and appreciative of the different social dynamic that exists and do not apply the "American Litmus Test" to the standard of living or method of life.

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Dr. Jose N. Rodriguez Memorial Hosipital (Tala) is a very helpful hospital. I really enjoyed my stay there. It was a hard decision that I took to end my services after 3 months. Job hunting entails that I have to absent myself frequently. I don't want to be unfair so I decided to quit. Right now they are flocked by thousands of volunteers. Staff nurses and patients are pleasant but ofcourse you will encounter challenging people sometimes. If anybody is interested you can pm me. :D

I have tried going to V luna once but they are always fully booked and as far as I understood they are now asking for a fee.

Callcenters doesn't want me. I am trying my best to fit into the job openings, you have to "trim" some details in your resume to make them think that you will be in the BPO business for a long time.:nono:

In the past few months of job hunting, I have been a little too harsh on myself. I am planning to make things simplier: If they don't like me then I don't like them more...hehehe:p

I had crying spells these past few weeks but hopefully things will change in the next days.

God is a God of surprises and I know I will open my surprise box one of these days:rolleyes:

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