NG tube question

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Hi everyone, so I am a new grad working in a level III NICU. I am almost done with my orientation and had a bit of a disagreement with my preceptor last night. So my patient was full term, stable, and had an NG which we were using q 3 feed and to infuse any left over ML's from their bottle feedings. I did my assessment, and fed my patient the bottle which they took 100%. Later that night my preceptor asked why I did not chart any residual prior to that feed. I explained that because I did not use the NG and was not concerned about the patients gut, I did not check. The patient had no spits, emesis and girths were the same 2x. I told her that I also felt that checking for placement before offering the bottle seemed odd because I was under the impression you would want to check tube placement as close to initiating the gavage feeding as possible. In theory, the NG/OG could move during feeding or burping. It should be noted that I used the NG three times prior that night, and each time when checking residual there was none. Naturally, I injected air and checked placement with my stethoscope each time.

What do you guys think, should I have checked for placement/residual prior to the bottle feed like she said? Would you have?

We do not check routinely check residuals in our facility.

Specializes in NICU/Neonatal transport.
On 12/9/2018 at 9:45 PM, kitty29 said:

In nearly 40 years I have never known of an NGT/OGT going into the lungs on a neonate. Honestly its hard enough sometimes to ge the ETT in place and that you are trying for the trachea! Anyway...we have never checked Ph for placement....xray or ausculation. We no longer are to check residuals but I often do out of habit. Also sometimes babys swallow so much air and it's an easy way to get rid of it! So with babys that are doing bottle/NGT feeds I do check.

I have - I saw a patient from another unit have an OG placed, no one checked position, they fed into it, accidentally perfed the R bronchus, pt. almost lost their R lung as a consequence.

I would not check residuals for a PO feed - if you didn't have the tube in, you wouldn't know how much was in the stomach.

On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 11:53 PM, LilPeanut said:

I have - I saw a patient from another unit have an OG placed, no one checked position, they fed into it, accidentally perfed the R bronchus, pt. almost lost their R lung as a consequence.

I would not check residuals for a PO feed - if you didn't have the tube in, you wouldn't know how much was in the stomach.

Wow....must had been a very small kiddo? We do check xray on OD tubes. When I aspirate to basically check for extra air or residuals on a baby who is just introduced to PO feeds it is generally the type who are having issue with loads of air in stomach or emesis. No harm.

I'm going to second what some of the other nurses have said: go with the hospital policy. I've worked at hospitals that required a position check and a residual check before every feeding if the kid has an NG tube. I've worked at some that didn't check residuals unless they suspected something was going on.

Specializes in NICU/Neonatal transport.
2 hours ago, kitty29 said:

Wow....must had been a very small kiddo? We do check xray on OD tubes. When I aspirate to basically check for extra air or residuals on a baby who is just introduced to PO feeds it is generally the type who are having issue with loads of air in stomach or emesis. No harm.

Former preemie who was 6-7 months old at the time I think? She also had a trach. But even when I was in nursing school, I remember that the very first peds rotation, our instructor was reassuring us about placing NG/OG tubes and the fact they are unlikely to go into the lungs, and she did a placement to demonstrate - and it went into that child's (7 or 8 years old) airway. Child's sound immediately stopped, they struggled to breathe and the instructor immediately removed the tube. May have scarred most of us LOL

It's not as much of an issue once it's in place, though it can still pull out to a high position to be an aspiration risk, but the "intubation" risk is really only with placement, and it's fairly obvious, provided they do not have an artificial airway. But never assume it can't happen with babies, because it absolutely can and does.

Specializes in NICU.

In my NICU (large teaching) we don’t check for residuals unless indicated. Our docs actually tell us not to because there isn’t evidence to show it’s necessary. We only check for placement before an NG feed.

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