Newbie lifting question

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Hi to all! I am a prospective nursing student (passed all of the tests, scheduled for an interview tomorrow!), and have been researching the nursing field heavy for the last 3 years in preparation for this career change.

One issue I hear about frequently is problems with heavy lifting, back injuries, workers' comp, etc. In other fields where heavy lifting is standard for the position, I see businesses addressing lifting requirements via back braces (Costco), minimum lifting requirements upon hire (UPS, firemen) etc. I always assumed through my television-tainted eyes in this female-dominant field that there were strapping orderlies at beckon call around a corner somewhere ready to help. I'm 39 and probably average weight (5'5") and height (145), but have my own limitations. Are any facilities up front about the lifting requirements upon hire? What in the world does a petite, 100 lb nurse do when a 200+ lb patient needs to be moved/helped? Do any employers address this honestly, or do you just avoid certain facilities if you have a weak back and are susceptible to injury?

Thanks for the input!

Specializes in M/S, dialysis, home health, SNF.

Start weight lifting!

I'm only half joking here. Being in shape or getting in shape helps. (I'm your height, weigh 5 lb more and I'm 17 yrs older than you) One hospital where I worked required a P.T. eval of every prospective nurse, including a requirement to lift a 50# box and carry it across the room. I thought that was downright dangerous, but I did it.

I'm in better shape than I was then - 1999 - and I can replace the water dispenser bottle alone much of the time - but I don't recommend it.

Whatever happened to body mechanics classes and insisting on getting help to lift?

I've never tried to lift an oversized patient alone - with one notable exception that just about killed my back and introduced me to back spasms. In that case, the clinical specialist - neuro rehab - insisted that with proper leverage, any nurse of any size could handle any patient of any size alone, using only her own body. She claimed to have done it many times, caring for her disabled husband.

But the truth is, most nurses in practice will ask for help. And if the CNA's feel safe asking a nurse for help they will. One asked me 3 times to help her pull up pts that weren't even mine, because their nurses were at lunch or busy elsewhere.

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several studies indicate that violence often takes place during times of high activity and interaction with patients, such as at meal times and during visiting hours and patient transportation. assaults may occur when service is denied, when a patient is involuntarily admitted, or when a health care worker attempts to set limits on eating, drinking, or tobacco or alcohol use.

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back injury can be cumulative. i've known few nurses who can point to one specific incident resulting in their back problems, but rather it's repeated stress and strain that causes the damage. i'm still waiting for the us to catch up with other countries with regard to lift teams and 'no lift' policies.

http://www2.nurseweek.com/articles/article.cfm?aid=22078

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Specializes in Nursing Home ,Dementia Care,Neurology..

Why is it that the US is so advanced in certain areas and yet in this area is so behind? We've had no lifting or minimal lifting for years now and using hoists,slide sheets etc becomes second nature after a while.

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Back injury can be cumulative. I've known few nurses who can point to one specific incident resulting in their back problems, but rather it's repeated stress and strain that causes the damage. I'm still waiting for the US to catch up with other countries with regard to lift teams and 'no lift' policies.

I attended a seminar last weekend here in Oregon. A lecture about "Safe Patient Handling: Saving Your Career" The speaker was Lynda Enos, MS, RN COHN-S, CPE, she is the co-chair for Oregon Coalition for HealthCare Ergonomics, and is a consultant for the Oregon Nurses Association.

It was a very good lecture with emphasis on how there is NO safe method to lift and transfer patients manually. The effects are cummulative over time, possibly starting with fatigue, discomfort, pain, injury, and finally a disability. Lynda is working with employers here in Oregon to match transfer EQUIPMENT and training with facilities.

Her presentation was outstanding, and was in powerpoint format. She also demo'd some of the equipment.

As a newbie student nurse myself, of about the same size, I have had the same concern about how I would transfer/ambulate a patient larger than myself safely. I do ask for help. However, equipment, which is a $$$ investment for employers, is the best way. Lynda has costed it all out and how it actually saves employers money over time in disability claims, time off work, and patient injuries. It makes sense to have equipment.

As nurses, we need to be advocates for ourselves as well as patient safety.

If anyone interested in learning more or getting the statistics from Lynda, her email: [email protected].

I know that I could be one injury away from ending my nursing career, so I'm going to do my best to protect myself, and choose and employer that values employee and patient safety.

I attended a seminar last weekend here in Oregon. A lecture about "Safe Patient Handling: Saving Your Career" The speaker was Lynda Enos, MS, RN COHN-S, CPE, she is the co-chair for Oregon Coalition for HealthCare Ergonomics, and is a consultant for the Oregon Nurses Association.

It was a very good lecture with emphasis on how there is NO safe method to lift and transfer patients manually. The effects are cummulative over time, possibly starting with fatigue, discomfort, pain, injury, and finally a disability. Lynda is working with employers here in Oregon to match transfer EQUIPMENT and training with facilities.

Her presentation was outstanding, and was in powerpoint format. She also demo'd some of the equipment.

As a newbie student nurse myself, of about the same size, I have had the same concern about how I would transfer/ambulate a patient larger than myself safely. I do ask for help. However, equipment, which is a $$$ investment for employers, is the best way. Lynda has costed it all out and how it actually saves employers money over time in disability claims, time off work, and patient injuries. It makes sense to have equipment.

As nurses, we need to be advocates for ourselves as well as patient safety.

If anyone interested in learning more or getting the statistics from Lynda, her email: [email protected].

I know that I could be one injury away from ending my nursing career, so I'm going to do my best to protect myself, and choose and employer that values employee and patient safety.

Thank you for the link and info.

I haven't been in school for some time. When I was, there was no teaching about the cumulative damage inflicted by lifting/pulling/positioning patients. It doesn't matter how good your body mechanics, you will strain your back over time. It's inevitable.

As far as facilities investing the money necessary for equipment and lift teams... hospitals are notorious for only considering the immediate, short-term costs, rather than what they save in the long run.

Upon hiring to my hospital, the physical assessment includes some exercises and questions that are supposed to establish whether you can lift 50 pounds without difficulty. The nursing staff job description states that being able to lift 50 pounds is a requirement. And during orientation, all staff that comes into physical contact with pts (nurses, aides, RT, physicians, etc) have to take a three hour class from the PT department on back injuries, how to avoid them, and how to safely transfer pts, with and without the equipment.

Upon hiring to my hospital, the physical assessment includes some exercises and questions that are supposed to establish whether you can lift 50 pounds without difficulty. The nursing staff job description states that being able to lift 50 pounds is a requirement. And during orientation, all staff that comes into physical contact with pts (nurses, aides, RT, physicians, etc) have to take a three hour class from the PT department on back injuries, how to avoid them, and how to safely transfer pts, with and without the equipment.
Cool. I'll lift 50 lbs. And then stop.
Specializes in Mostly LTC, some acute and some ER,.

Some of the facilities that I have worked at are considered "no lift" facilities. If the patient cannot stand and bear weight to the point where you are doing their physical work, you must use a hoyer lift or a standing frame with them. A lot of places have a lot of really cool stuff to make the physical work easier.

Cool. I'll lift 50 lbs. And then stop.

Yeah, no kidding; I mean, we all know we have the staff to have one person for each fifty pounds of weight we are transferring to the bedside commode.....

Specializes in ORTHOPAEDICS-CERTIFIED SINCE 89.

As a BIN (back injured nurse) I beg you not to lift. As others pointed out Scotland, UK, Australia and others have definite laws about lifting. This would be a great movement for us all to get behind (no pun intended).

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