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Ted · Mar 22, 2005

Hello and Welcome! :)

I hope you find the information that you seek. I'm moving this thread to a forum that might better answer your questions.

Good luck! :)

Ted

TheCommuter, BSN, RN · Mar 22, 2005

Hi to everyone,
Just want to broaden my knowledge and have a question on Nursing ratios as they apply to long term care facilities. Any comments?

:) Welcome and enjoy!

CoffeeRTC, BSN, RN · Mar 22, 2005

Every state is different in the ratios. Look on your state's website.

Alicia18 · Mar 24, 2005

Hi to everyone,
Just want to broaden my knowledge and have a question on Nursing ratios as they apply to long term care facilities. Any comments?

Where I work, during nightshift there are two CNAs to the 12 patients in the PC unit (and in the entire building, by the way; it gets to seem pretty quiet when everyone is asleep! :chuckle ). We are also have to answer calls from our apartment residents (ones who are more retirement-home-ish), and during a good night two of them call several times a night. So that's 14 pts per 2 "nurses" at night. I'm not sure if this is the norm or not.

Hope this helps a bit.

steff_rn1 · Mar 29, 2005

In the LTC where I work, our nursing ratios are typically 1 nurse to 30 residents on days, 1 to 45 on 2nd and 3rd shift. Of course, on weekends and when call offs occur, this may be less.

Alicia18 · Mar 29, 2005

In the LTC where I work, our nursing ratios are typically 1 nurse to 30 residents on days, 1 to 45 on 2nd and 3rd shift. Of course, on weekends and when call offs occur, this may be less.

Whoa; that's a tough load! :eek: Are these your typical nursing home residents (total or close to total care) or are they more retirement-home-ish? It sounds like work can get crazy for you, steff_rn1!

Speculating · Mar 29, 2005

Hi to everyone,
Just want to broaden my knowledge and have a question on Nursing ratios as they apply to long term care facilities. Any comments?

OKAY! What's your question?

nursetootsie · Mar 30, 2005

OKAY! What's your question?

Our medicare unit has 38 patients/2 RN's/5 CNA's. Plus, 2 RCM's for the extra's like starting IV's, inserting foley's, lab draws, etc... The two nurses we have RUN all day. Wish it was better, but...

live4today, RN · Mar 30, 2005

I recently spent four days orienting to a health facility that has long and short care patients....many are skilled nursing patients which is nothing more than a step down med/surg unit from what I could tell. Each nurse has 20 patients no matter the shift. Needless to say, due to many things I witnessed and heard during my four day experience there, I chose not to stick around for more abuse.

rebel_red · Mar 30, 2005

7-3 at our facility is 2 nurses each nurse had 20 subacute patients (read med/surg and take medically stable as fiction) and 10 long term care. 7-3 also has a unit clerk and a treatment nurse. 3-11 its the 2 nurses again with 20 subacute patients and 10 long term care residents. 11-7 is 1 nurse to all 60 patients. There is also a house sup on all shifts to handle admits, discharges, incidents and accidents. But as mentioned with call offs and other issues......it is usually less than ideal....

Tres

donmomofnine · Apr 4, 2005

Oh, I would love to post a copy of this thread at my facility. We have 90 beds, but our census is always closer to 80. On 7-3 there are two supervisors, four primary care nurses, two unit clerks, ten nursing assistants and two bath aids, and two unit assistants. There is a wound nurse three days a week. On 3-11 there is one supervisor, unit clerks stay till six, four primary care nurses, ten nursing assistants. On 11-7 there is one supervisor and two primary care nurses, along with five nursing assistants. We usually have extra help on all shifts with "pre nats", kind of act like unit aids. These are people we have on the units before the nurse aid training program starts or they are students in the local tech school's NA program. We also have hospice during the day and so they send an aid each weekday to do our five or so hospice residents. We have students from the Vo tech to help with care one day a week and LPN students from a local college here one day a week. We have no sub acute. We also have a nurse practitioner working for Evercare, in which twenty of our patients are now enrolled.